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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Electric_Head » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:37 am

Pistonsbeneath wrote:jboy is trolling
I think he`s making some good points
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by JBoy » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:41 am

Electric_Head wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:jboy is trolling
I think he`s making some good points
Hmmm i find myself somewhere in the middle. On one hand i dont know what goes on in peoples heads, so cant comment on their 'depressive' nature. On the other hand i do think people are sometimes pathetic and needy and cry out for attention.

Edit: Without blowing my own trumpet or sounding needy, i can safely say that ive had a lot of reasons to be depressed over the last few years. Is my lack of depression down to something chemical inside me or just being mentally robust?
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by fassyman » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:44 am

Electric_Head wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:jboy is trolling
I think he`s making some good points
innit. it does seem to me like some poeple enjoy wollowing in sadness, which really isn't productive. also, labeling yourself depressed and defending the bad vibes only really adds to self pitty.
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by O Tumma Tum Ladin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:46 am

the more you know the more depressed you will become

jboy just doesn't know much

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by JBoy » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:49 am

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:the more you know the more depressed you will become

jboy just doesn't know much
Wow what a philosopher, that made me think for 0.5 seconds.

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by O Tumma Tum Ladin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:52 am

JBoy wrote:
O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:the more you know the more depressed you will become

jboy just doesn't know much
Wow what a philosopher, that made me think for 0.5 seconds.
0.5 seconds longer than your dad spent thinking about whether to stick around.

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Genevieve » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:52 am

A friend of mine is schizotypal, every so often she is 'visited by a demon' who will kill her kids if she doesn't sleep in the same room to keep it away. Does she need to stop being a pussy?

I want our resident depression specialists to answer this one.
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by O Tumma Tum Ladin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:53 am

Genevieve wrote:A friend of mine is schizotypal, every so often she is 'visited by a demon' who will kill her kids if she doesn't sleep in the same room to keep it away. Does she need to stop being a pussy?
no she needs to be locked up

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Pistonsbeneath » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:54 am

ive heard it a million times that argument...look back to my post earlier and you will see i covered it already

i'm not going to suddenly never have my dark moments just because someones drawn my attention to people in a worse situation...its chemical largely after all

how the fuck do you guys know that in africa people dont get depressed anyway?

ridiculous

i am a hard working person and i often go out of my way for others, ii currently work full time, manage to fit in the music and never complain as a rule...all i want is balance really but sometimes everything seems to be fucked and i struggle

people cannot snap out of it and it has nothing really to do with your background

and jboy must be trolling to use the phrase 'depression heads'
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Genevieve » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:55 am

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:
Genevieve wrote:A friend of mine is schizotypal, every so often she is 'visited by a demon' who will kill her kids if she doesn't sleep in the same room to keep it away. Does she need to stop being a pussy?
no she needs to be locked up
She's stable and on meds. She has a job, bought a house and a has family. Other than the occasional psychosis she's fine.
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by JBoy » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:55 am

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:
Genevieve wrote:A friend of mine is schizotypal, every so often she is 'visited by a demon' who will kill her kids if she doesn't sleep in the same room to keep it away. Does she need to stop being a pussy?
no she needs to be locked up
Put in a straight jacket, doped up and have her kids taken off her.

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Genevieve » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:56 am

JBoy wrote:Put in a straight jacket, doped up and have her kids taken off her.
So she should be treated for her illness? So why not people with depression?
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by O Tumma Tum Ladin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:57 am

Pistonsbeneath wrote:how the fuck do you guys know that in africa people dont get depressed anyway?
they always look fucking miserable on those tv crisis appeals

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O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:
Genevieve wrote:A friend of mine is schizotypal, every so often she is 'visited by a demon' who will kill her kids if she doesn't sleep in the same room to keep it away. Does she need to stop being a pussy?
no she needs to be locked up
She's stable and on meds. She has a job, bought a house and a has family. Other than the occasional psychosis she's fine.
could I have her name and social security number.

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by JBoy » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:58 am

Genevieve wrote:
JBoy wrote:Put in a straight jacket, doped up and have her kids taken off her.
So she should be treated for her illness? So why not people with depression?
I never said people with depression shouldnt be treated, anyone with diagnosed clinical depression should get all the help they deserve.

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Genevieve » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:02 pm

JBoy wrote:
Genevieve wrote:
JBoy wrote:Put in a straight jacket, doped up and have her kids taken off her.
So she should be treated for her illness? So why not people with depression?
I never said people with depression shouldnt be treated, anyone with diagnosed clinical depression should get all the help they deserve.
Shouldn't they just snap out of it? I mean, kids in Africa are starving and a lot of them still manage to be happy, so why shouldn't people with depression?
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by fassyman » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:02 pm

Pistonsbeneath wrote:ive heard it a million times that argument...look back to my post earlier and you will see i covered it already

i'm not going to suddenly never have my dark moments just because someones drawn my attention to people in a worse situation...its chemical largely after all

how the fuck do you guys know that in africa people dont get depressed anyway?
ridiculous

i am a hard working person and i often go out of my way for others, ii currently work full time, manage to fit in the music and never complain as a rule...all i want is balance really but sometimes everything seems to be fucked and i struggle

people cannot snap out of it and it has nothing really to do with your background

and jboy must be trolling to use the phrase 'depression heads'
when did anyone say that lol?


i've been in dark places myself. but i know for a fact it would have taken me alot longer to get over it if i had labled myself depressed. Its a mindstate more than a condition imho
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Electric_Head » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:04 pm

Electric_Head wrote:
fassyman wrote:i read somthing in metro today about how african children living in slums are generally happier than western kids...


iunno what my point is but it seemed kinda relevant lol
you joke but in all seriousness they do came across as more happy.
However if you actually go into their homes lives n what not, they`re actually not happy.
They know how to find happiness in the smallest things.
I think I stated quite clearly that they're also depressed and unhappy.
Not having much does however force them to find happiness.
Even if it means finding happiness in the bottom of a plastic bottle of piss poor white wine / methylated spirits.
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Genevieve » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:07 pm

fassyman wrote:i've been in dark places myself. but i know for a fact it would have taken me alot longer to get over it if i had labled myself depressed. Its a mindstate more than a condition imho
Yeah, but no one's talking about you. This is about people with a physical abnormality.
Electric_Head wrote: I think I stated quite clearly that they're also depressed and unhappy.
And I've stated quite a few times that they're not necessarily depressed, just unhappy.
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Mr Hyde » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:08 pm

Electric_Head wrote:
Electric_Head wrote:
fassyman wrote:i read somthing in metro today about how african children living in slums are generally happier than western kids...


iunno what my point is but it seemed kinda relevant lol
you joke but in all seriousness they do came across as more happy.
However if you actually go into their homes lives n what not, they`re actually not happy.
They know how to find happiness in the smallest things.
I think I stated quite clearly that they're also depressed and unhappy.
Not having much does however force them to find happiness.
Even if it means finding happiness in the bottom of a plastic bottle of piss poor white wine / methylated spirits.
People are people, am sure some that were born rich and are happy would still be happy if they were born poor. Likewise some rich and depressed people would still be depressed if they were born poor.

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Electric_Head » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:10 pm

everyone has different degrees of happiness
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