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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Pistonsbeneath » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:11 pm

JBoy wrote:
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JBoy wrote:Put in a straight jacket, doped up and have her kids taken off her.
So she should be treated for her illness? So why not people with depression?
I never said people with depression shouldnt be treated, anyone with diagnosed clinical depression should get all the help they deserve.
and you think you are able to judge who has clinical depression?

your point is retarded and heres why...you say people cannot be depressed as they have it so good relative to people in africa

yet youre saying people in africa arent depressed

but youve just admitted to clinical depression being a 'thing'

so maybe it can occur with anyone due to chemicals in the brain.....you know steven fry has bipolar?
ive been 'diagnosed' before not as clinical but its just a card with responses where you tick boxes....being diagnosed or not doesnt change anything....

and i dont label myself as anything at any given time but ultimately you look back a few weeks and realise theres a balance lacking somewhere
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by fassyman » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:15 pm

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fassyman wrote:i've been in dark places myself. but i know for a fact it would have taken me alot longer to get over it if i had labled myself depressed. Its a mindstate more than a condition imho
Yeah, but no one's talking about you. This is about people with a physical abnormality.

What im saying is, that imo, depression is partially self inflicted. which i why i dont have much sympathy for people who say there depressed, cos from my experience, 90% of them dont do themselves any favors
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Genevieve » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:15 pm

Electric_Head wrote:everyone has different degrees of happiness
Uhh, yeah, depression has nothing to do with that. Unhappiness is a symptom of depression. There's still fatique, motoric retardation, sleeping too much or too little, loss of appetite, loss of enjoyment in activities and other things and so on and so forth.

It's funny. People with a physically different brain are told to just 'be different'. Yet no one's telling a dude without legs to just get up and walk.
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Genevieve » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:16 pm

fassyman wrote:
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fassyman wrote:i've been in dark places myself. but i know for a fact it would have taken me alot longer to get over it if i had labled myself depressed. Its a mindstate more than a condition imho
Yeah, but no one's talking about you. This is about people with a physical abnormality.

What im saying is, that imo, depression is partially self inflicted. which i why i dont have much sympathy for people who say there depressed, cos from my experience, 90% of them dont do themselves any favors
And what science is saying that, depression is a genetically predetermined and related with schizophrenia and can be triggered due to a stressor. I'll take science over fassyman.
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by O Tumma Tum Ladin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:17 pm

I'd rather be depressed in a centrally heated house with a tv than a mud hut with a goat.

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Pistonsbeneath » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:17 pm

Genevieve wrote:
Electric_Head wrote:everyone has different degrees of happiness
Uhh, yeah, depression has nothing to do with that. Unhappiness is a symptom of depression. There's still fatique, motoric retardation, sleeping too much or too little, loss of appetite, loss of enjoyment in activities and other things and so on and so forth.

It's funny. People with a physically different brain are told to just 'be different'. Yet no one's telling a dude without legs to just get up and walk.
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Post by Pistonsbeneath » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:18 pm

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:I'd rather be depressed in a centrally heated house with a tv than a mud hut with a goat.
i never took any tax payers money....i dont take time off work when i feel awful i ust carry on

but it doesnt necessarily speed my crawling out of the pit....i just grit my teeth

so its not like everyones just sitting at home
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Genevieve » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:22 pm

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:I'd rather be depressed in a centrally heated house with a tv than a mud hut with a goat.
People with depression might as well live in a mudhut with a goat. To them it makes no difference. They wouldn't care about central heating because they don't care if they live and they probably don't even enjoy tv.
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by fassyman » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:24 pm

Genevieve wrote:
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fassyman wrote:i've been in dark places myself. but i know for a fact it would have taken me alot longer to get over it if i had labled myself depressed. Its a mindstate more than a condition imho
Yeah, but no one's talking about you. This is about people with a physical abnormality.

What im saying is, that imo, depression is partially self inflicted. which i why i dont have much sympathy for people who say there depressed, cos from my experience, 90% of them dont do themselves any favors
And what science is saying that, depression is a genetically predetermined and related with schizophrenia and can be triggered due to a stressor. I'll take science over fassyman.
well if thats the case then i guess the best thing to do is try and stay as positive as possible :w: :W:
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by O Tumma Tum Ladin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:31 pm

Pistonsbeneath wrote:
O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:I'd rather be depressed in a centrally heated house with a tv than a mud hut with a goat.
i never took any tax payers money....i dont take time off work when i feel awful i ust carry on

but it doesnt necessarily speed my crawling out of the pit....i just grit my teeth

so its not like everyones just sitting at home
I've got no idea what you're on about tbh I was just pointing out that our depression is better than theirs. give the depressives something to be proud of.

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O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:I'd rather be depressed in a centrally heated house with a tv than a mud hut with a goat.
People with depression might as well live in a mudhut with a goat. To them it makes no difference. They wouldn't care about central heating because they don't care if they live and they probably don't even enjoy tv.
if they had the balls to watch pick tv for 12 hours straight they'd soon leave their house. noone can withstand that amount of fly on the wall documentaries about bureaucrats.

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Post by Pistonsbeneath » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:42 pm

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:
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O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:I'd rather be depressed in a centrally heated house with a tv than a mud hut with a goat.
i never took any tax payers money....i dont take time off work when i feel awful i ust carry on

but it doesnt necessarily speed my crawling out of the pit....i just grit my teeth

so its not like everyones just sitting at home
I've got no idea what you're on about tbh I was just pointing out that our depression is better than theirs. give the depressives something to be proud of.

Genevieve wrote:
O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:I'd rather be depressed in a centrally heated house with a tv than a mud hut with a goat.
People with depression might as well live in a mudhut with a goat. To them it makes no difference. They wouldn't care about central heating because they don't care if they live and they probably don't even enjoy tv.
if they had the balls to watch pick tv for 12 hours straight they'd soon leave their house. noone can withstand that amount of fly on the wall documentaries about bureaucrats.
when im in that place man i dont care about anything...as was said might as well be in a mud hut with a goat...if anything id prefer that within those situations just to be somewhere else, it certainly sounds like a simpler life as was said
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by Genevieve » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:48 pm

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:I've got no idea what you're on about tbh I was just pointing out that our depression is better than theirs. give the depressives something to be proud of.
How do you know if it's better? Depression is internal. The surroundings have little to do with it.

When I'm depressed, I'm constantly thinking about just going away. Sell all my stuff, buy a plane ticket and just wake up, eat, go on, sleep and wake up. Be it in a mudhut, under the stars, in a cave or in some random ass person's apartment for a night.

I'd probably still be depressed, so it's not like it would make a difference. Point is, surroundings have fuck all to do with it.
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by O Tumma Tum Ladin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:51 pm

so you'd be no more or less depressed being shat on by a neo izan than lying in bed?

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Post by Pistonsbeneath » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:54 pm

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:so you'd be no more or less depressed being shat on by a neo izan than lying in bed?
depression is essentially feeling nothing due to being overwhelmed by your mind

it wouldnt make you more depressed, being a bit sad isnt the same thing as being depressed
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by O Tumma Tum Ladin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:55 pm

sounds like it's rooted in narcissism

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Post by Pistonsbeneath » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:56 pm

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:sounds like it's rooted in narcissism
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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by noam » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:00 pm

whatever its rooted in its shit.

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by O Tumma Tum Ladin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:03 pm

depression is contagious, quarantine them.

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Re: depression and the artistic mind

Post by noam » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:06 pm

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:depression is contagious, euthanise them.
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Post by Mr Hyde » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:07 pm

O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:sounds like it's rooted in narcissism
O Tumma Tum Ladin wrote:depression is contagious, quarantine them.
Big comedy internet badman aren't you? There are people on here telling you how bad they have felt with depression and you feel the need for responses like that?

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