In the words of Duncan Bannatyne..... Im out.

[vax]

Who the hell's Duncan Bannatyne? Some brostep producer?

[abs]

[MCwillywarmer]

Why did you have to make a thread about leaving, why not just leave and not say anything if you dont feel this forum anymore. Have fun playing your bropstep and pretending your still revelant to this scene

[wizeguy]

To say people on this forum are not open to new sounds is a fucking joke. You have the dungeon sound thread getting updated daily, often with very young producers (Compa is the main one I can think of off the top of my head), the Swamp 81 thread is another that is regularly checked, with more 130 styles being pushed. There's even a thread where somebody was asking for good recent tearout that a lot of people responded too. Sure, not every comment was in support of the sound, but this is a forum, it's a place to share opinions. I've even just seen a thread about Dubstep being compared to Post Punk. There's even a fucking moombahton thread. With regards to the "arguments" that occur, it seems to me that if one person offers an opinion that isn't full of praise for bro-step, there'll be 10 people attacking them for not accepting "evolution". I think the list of threads I named entirely disproves that. Sure, the music might become different, but it doesn't mean we have to like it, as Pete said regarding DnB.

People are discussing plenty of sounds mate, and the evolution is happening in many other ways than just simply Dubstep > Brostep, you're coming across like you're pissed off not many people share your apparent love for what could be termed bro-step. Whilst I respect your older stuff (Japan is a massive favourite), the forum will carry on without you, and I'm sure people will continue to use this as a place to find out about new tunes in all styles and tempos, and chat shit about them. The forum is as alive as ever, it just depends how you use it.

Well said mate

[ddia]

so long plastic, shame that you decide to leave the forum instead of help contribute to dubstep's biggest online community.

[icanicant]

To say people on this forum are not open to new sounds is a fucking joke. You have the dungeon sound thread getting updated daily, often with very young producers (Compa is the main one I can think of off the top of my head), the Swamp 81 thread is another that is regularly checked, with more 130 styles being pushed. There's even a thread where somebody was asking for good recent tearout that a lot of people responded too. Sure, not every comment was in support of the sound, but this is a forum, it's a place to share opinions. I've even just seen a thread about Dubstep being compared to Post Punk. There's even a fucking moombahton thread. With regards to the "arguments" that occur, it seems to me that if one person offers an opinion that isn't full of praise for bro-step, there'll be 10 people attacking them for not accepting "evolution". I think the list of threads I named entirely disproves that. Sure, the music might become different, but it doesn't mean we have to like it, as Pete said regarding DnB.

People are discussing plenty of sounds mate, and the evolution is happening in many other ways than just simply Dubstep > Brostep, you're coming across like you're pissed off not many people share your apparent love for what could be termed bro-step. Whilst I respect your older stuff (Japan is a massive favourite), the forum will carry on without you, and I'm sure people will continue to use this as a place to find out about new tunes in all styles and tempos, and chat shit about them. The forum is as alive as ever, it just depends how you use it.

Well said mate

[Widowmaker]

I wouldn't have learnt/found out about half the shit i do know now without this forum.

massive verts to all.

[cityzen]

Why did you have to make a thread about leaving, why not just leave and not say anything if you dont feel this forum anymore. Have fun playing your bropstep and pretending your still revelant to this scene

Harsh. He'll always be relevant to the scene if only for what he's done in the past.

Also, can someone define elitism in this context for me? Is it just listening to a certain type of Dubstep and rarely venturing outside the SNH.

[jigglypuff]

To say people on this forum are not open to new sounds is a fucking joke. You have the dungeon sound thread getting updated daily, often with very young producers (Compa is the main one I can think of off the top of my head), the Swamp 81 thread is another that is regularly checked, with more 130 styles being pushed. There's even a thread where somebody was asking for good recent tearout that a lot of people responded too. Sure, not every comment was in support of the sound, but this is a forum, it's a place to share opinions. I've even just seen a thread about Dubstep being compared to Post Punk. There's even a fucking moombahton thread. With regards to the "arguments" that occur, it seems to me that if one person offers an opinion that isn't full of praise for bro-step, there'll be 10 people attacking them for not accepting "evolution". I think the list of threads I named entirely disproves that. Sure, the music might become different, but it doesn't mean we have to like it, as Pete said regarding DnB.

People are discussing plenty of sounds mate, and the evolution is happening in many other ways than just simply Dubstep > Brostep, you're coming across like you're pissed off not many people share your apparent love for what could be termed bro-step. Whilst I respect your older stuff (Japan is a massive favourite), the forum will carry on without you, and I'm sure people will continue to use this as a place to find out about new tunes in all styles and tempos, and chat shit about them. The forum is as alive as ever, it just depends how you use it.

Well said mate

I didn't want to get involved in this discussion because I don't care for the topic much but well done mate those are some very good points

[johnkimble]

out to snh
not even listening to dubstep anymore except some tectonic/chestplate/deep medi material and thats just some

[garethom]

To say people on this forum are not open to new sounds is a fucking joke. You have the dungeon sound thread getting updated daily, often with very young producers (Compa is the main one I can think of off the top of my head), the Swamp 81 thread is another that is regularly checked, with more 130 styles being pushed. There's even a thread where somebody was asking for good recent tearout that a lot of people responded too. Sure, not every comment was in support of the sound, but this is a forum, it's a place to share opinions. I've even just seen a thread about Dubstep being compared to Post Punk. There's even a fucking moombahton thread. With regards to the "arguments" that occur, it seems to me that if one person offers an opinion that isn't full of praise for bro-step, there'll be 10 people attacking them for not accepting "evolution". I think the list of threads I named entirely disproves that. Sure, the music might become different, but it doesn't mean we have to like it, as Pete said regarding DnB.

People are discussing plenty of sounds mate, and the evolution is happening in many other ways than just simply Dubstep > Brostep, you're coming across like you're pissed off not many people share your apparent love for what could be termed bro-step. Whilst I respect your older stuff (Japan is a massive favourite), the forum will carry on without you, and I'm sure people will continue to use this as a place to find out about new tunes in all styles and tempos, and chat shit about them. The forum is as alive as ever, it just depends how you use it.

Well said mate

I didn't want to get involved in this discussion because I don't care for the topic much but well done mate those are some very good points

Well man, I admit, it kind of pissed me off. It's very easy to say the forum is just people arguing about brostep, but it simply isn't true. It's probably a miniscule percentage of the amount of posts per day, and there's plenty of producers that still do post here, maybe not producers that were releasing stuff in 2003, but producers that are releasing stuff now, no doubt influenced by this very forum.

He may have "left" but he said on twitter: I still think people are missing the point I am making though. They're now moaning at my post.
I dunno, maybe he's safer there on twitter where nobody will ever disagree with his opinion and he won't have to encounter and resistance to his massively inaccurate statements.

[fractal]

if you really dislike a certain sound so much (i know i do!); then how about try and educate a new member who's just discovered a new type of music and goes onto the internet to share his excitement with people... and what does he get? a welcome by that pack of wolves that plastic mentions, who descend on him because he's not had the time or oppurtunity to delve into the scene yet. how is it helping dubstep, the forum, or anything quite frankly, to drive away a new member that could potentially have been a great poster, or regular record buyer etc. of course they may only like that type of music which they're welcome to, and some people are never going to change their minds but they're only going to be opened up to new music if their first impression isn't the one that most people will get when they sign onto dsf

can't we all get back to more of this please

yes badge!

sorry to see you go Ian, hope you find what your looking for

[sigbowls]

dubstep is a joke half the time. go bask to dub and smoke a bowl you hipsters

[DREdio]

what a way to bow out. opening a thread that results in a whole bunch of the 'elitist' opinions and 'pack mentality' that put u off in the first place. I guess what confuses me is, how could this thread bring about anything positive or constructive to the forum? i mean have u ever walked into a party, realized it wasnt quite ur cup of tea, then announced this fact to everybody before making ur grand exit? maybe its just me but in that situation im just gonna quietly walk out the door knowing nobody is even going to notice

[garethom]

what a way to bow out. opening a thread that results in a whole bunch of the 'elitist' opinions and 'pack mentality' that put u off in the first place. I guess what confuses me is, how could this thread bring about anything positive or constructive to the forum? i mean have u ever walked into a party, realized it wasnt quite ur cup of tea, then announced this fact to everybody before making ur grand exit? maybe its just me but in that situation im just gonna quietly walk out the door knowing nobody is even going to notice

What is even slightly "elitist" about any of the opinions here?

The "pack mentality" shown? Half the people are bigging him up, and the other half are disagreeing with him? This is the same shit that got to me with plastician's post. People saying stuff that isn't actually true. Either that or they aren't sure what they're talking about themselves.

I agree with your other point though, that's a good analogy. Apparently, we were being "schooled" though.

[brasco]

opening a thread that results in a whole bunch of the 'elitist' opinions and 'pack mentality'

what are you on about???

[pikeymobile]

Just realised I've not seen a forum flounce since the dial up days

[wizeguy]

what a way to bow out. opening a thread that results in a whole bunch of the 'elitist' opinions and 'pack mentality' that put u off in the first place. I guess what confuses me is, how could this thread bring about anything positive or constructive to the forum? i mean have u ever walked into a party, realized it wasnt quite ur cup of tea, then announced this fact to everybody before making ur grand exit? maybe its just me but in that situation im just gonna quietly walk out the door knowing nobody is even going to notice

What is even slightly "elitist" about any of the opinions here?

The "pack mentality" shown? Half the people are bigging him up, and the other half are disagreeing with him? This is the same shit that got to me with plastician's post. People saying stuff that isn't actually true. Either that or they aren't sure what they're talking about themselves.

I agree with your other point though, that's a good analogy. Apparently, we were being "schooled" though.

some one school him on a good barbers

[-[2]DAY_-]

have u ever walked into a party, realized it wasnt quite ur cup of tea, then [. . .] quietly walk out the door knowing nobody is even going to notice

pretty much every party i've ever been to

[FuDuzn]

I find it interesting that he claims he is done with this place, yet is still talking about his post and responses on twitter. Why not just stick around a bit longer if you want to do that.