Teriszega wrote:he's a phenominal producer, what do you expect? its cool to hate what gets popular now a days cuz all you hipster punks only like the things that no one knows about. funny how about a year ago everyone loved him and now everyone bashes him. and he doesnt even make dubstep anyways so why bother caring and keep listening to your coki and zomby
In case you were wondering, these are the catagories he's been nominated for:
Best dance album
Best dance recording
Best music video
Best new artist
Best remix
I wont comment on these as ive only heard about 5 seconds of his music and never seen any videos.
http://www.grammy.com/nominees
Look at the number of different catagories. Imagine having to sit through the awards being given out for best new age artist and best spoken word album. Poor celebs
Teriszega wrote:he's a phenominal producer, what do you expect? its cool to hate what gets popular now a days cuz all you hipster punks only like the things that no one knows about. funny how about a year ago everyone loved him and now everyone bashes him. and he doesnt even make dubstep anyways so why bother caring and keep listening to your coki and zomby
It's always been cool to hate what's popular by us hipster punks. What is a hipster punk again?
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Yeah big up Jesus for dying for our sins and netting us a public holiday in the process.
Skrillex has an imagination and deep knowledge of NI Reaktor and Kontakt. The popular belief is he uses Massive, nope, he's a resampler through and through (although he probably uses massive that's not the primary method he uses to create his stuff). I can here is stuff when I'm resampling sounds and hit the formant knob.
Anyway. Talent is undefined. You're only as talented as someone believes you are.
Good on Skrillex. Anyone that gets as far as him, or Nero, or any other chart topping Dubstep artists deserves a pat on the back.
Lol, jesus christ, these grammy noms could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and causes this forum to implode completely.
Just for laughs, here's a repost:
People just love to hate on the popular cool kids that are trending. Skrillex has huge talent. The guy successfully transitioned from being the singer of a well known hardcore band to being the darling child of dubstep almost overnight. How many people can do something like that? And he does it all using just a laptop with Ableton Live. The guy doesn't even have a proper midi controller and he's making music that rips people's heads off and tons of producers are trying to emulate. Major props to him. I don't care what anyone says.
sorry, it's kind of an argumentative cop-out to employ this observation, but the fact that you actually BOUGHT all the Skrillex BS (succesfully transitioned overnight, produces on just laptop with ableton with some shitty speakers) pretty much instantly singles you out as either young, or simple.
a) i was "there" when he was in a "hardcore" band. i was very much into post-hardcore at the time From First to Last started "trending", and that band, plus the wave of imitators that followed (Aiden, for example) was both a the first and final nail in its coffin. Atrocious music that single-handedly attracted the derogatory use of the "emo" handle. i have nothing against high-pitched vocals, but there are miles of lines in the sand between this
and this
if the second vid doesn't instantly cause you to go "gaaaaaaaayyy!!!!", then.... i dunno... i guess: enjoy your Twilight saga, tween cigarette.
i was gonna recommend some proper post-hardcore, but I'm going to wait for your feelings on FFTL, so I know if i'm wasting my time.
2. he didn't transition shit. after leaving FFTL he struggled for years producing horrid near-outsider-music-quality emotronica shite like this
this is by far the most PASSABLE output from that timeframe, sadly the HILARIOUS shit that was on his myspace isn't there anymore
3. "darling child of dubstep", "music that rips people's heads off and tons of producers are trying to emulate" hahahaha. what, you've been reading mau5trap promos like they were actual reviews?
he first heard "dubstep" something like... one year ago, via a second-, if not a third-hand source: Borgore. he actually admits to this in an interview. as emo kids will be, he was instantly drawn to the sound. so, first he does some awful remixes and a shitty EP of "br000tal" "electrohouse" and "dubstep" "tunes" with awful cheesy speech-synth verses and sound-design based around the philosophy of turning distortion up to 11.
then media blackout.
then, 6 months later, album chock-full of tracks with top-notch production on the drops (I'll admit to that, but honestly who GIVES A SHIT about basses made with the "modern talking" wavetable in Massive anymore?! a horse beaten well into putrefaction, that) but with the most awful fucking melodies and dismally chopped-up whiny grating vocals in between the drops. almost like... parts on the same song weren't made by the same person! gasp...
of course, you have no idea who I am, nor will I make it in any way clear who I am, and you, of course, have no reason to believe me. but, nevertheless, the story goes like this:
Spor takes some time off from working on his debut album as Feed Me (which also comes out on mau5trap a couple of months after Skrillex's, and sounds almost like a much much much much better and bereft of the revoltingly, vomit-inducing saccharine cheese of the former) and reworks some of his album out-takes into usable drops.
Excision and Datsik get a call, make some guy some drum loops and some Massive patches, get paid.
Noisia are called in for a little R&D.
Deadmau5 (who is by no means untalented) looms over the entire process.
And so we arrive at this Frankenstein's monster of aggro popular dance music that is "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" (good name!). I find it really funny that this is being said in a Britney thread... quite appropriate. Same degree of a "collaborative" effort, nonetheless.
anyways, the "rips people's heads off" and "producers are trying to emulate" doesn't ring so true anymore, does it? i don't see anyone struggling to emulate the whiny emo crap he does by himself on top, more like i see people trying to emulate the kind of drops they've been trying to emulate for years, ever since excision, datsik, 16bit, noisia, spor, borgore and other splendid producers with appropriate mileage hit the spotlight.
now you might be thinking... "but if he ain't doing anything himself, what would be the point of paying all these other guys to ghost produce, instead of just releasing more material by the guys themselves?"
well, very simple: excision is a guy from middle Canada with a hoodie, and kind of a hard man. noisia are three down to earth dudes from the netherlands. spor is a soft-spoken aphex fan. skrillex is a meth-head who chain smokes, tweeks out, looks like a goth Mowgli, and so on. and that will always do wonders for the angsty rebellious tween demographic. and skrillex had been on WB's roster ever since working with Ross Robinson on FFTL's Heroine. they saw an opportunity, and had the perfect poster child for it. they threw some wads of money around, did some beatport top 10 magic, and, voila, MrSparkle666 has a new favorite "dubstep" "musician" with heaps of "talent" to his name.
But, of course, you "don't care what anyone says". Fine, enjoy willful ignorance and willful bad taste.
cultural delete wrote:most of the people with feelings about all this have join dates of 10/11.
dubstep was a dead out genre in 07
you are all idiots on both sides
grammys lol
SHARE US YOUR WISDOM OH MIGHTY ONE
or shut the fuck up.
true @ last thing tho LOL
@ Teriszega you weren't here one year ago where u
"If your chest ain't rattlin it ain't happenin'" - DJ Pinch
"Move pples bodies and stimulate their minds"
we just ride the wave
Life sucks; Get used² it.
All you closed minded pricks are are DUMB AS FUCK. Skrillex earned his shiit whether you like it or not. Talent, Skill, wtvr you wanna call it he's paved his path and made a name for himself. His productions are actually very good. A lot of the melodies and structures to his tunes that he comes up with most of you would NEVER be able to do. You don't have to like Skrillex, you damn sure don't have to listen to him, but you should RESPECT him becuz he's done things that no dj/"dubstep" producer has ever done. Just because YOU don't like his music, doesn't mean I, or even your mum doesn't Big ups to Skrillex for opening the door for many more dj's/producers in the future!
Blastfome wrote:All you closed minded pricks are are DUMB AS FUCK. Skrillex earned his shiit whether you like it or not. Talent, Skill, wtvr you wanna call it he's paved his path and made a name for himself. His productions are actually very good. A lot of the melodies and structures to his tunes that he comes up with most of you would NEVER be able to do. You don't have to like Skrillex, you damn sure don't have to listen to him, but you should RESPECT him becuz he's done things that no dj/"dubstep" producer has ever done. Just because YOU don't like his music, doesn't mean I, or even your mum doesn't Big ups to Skrillex for opening the door for many more dj's/producers in the future!
Hello there.
Thank you for your contribution, although it is not to my tastes, I appreciate the time you have taken to share it with us.
Can I politely suggest you view this thread, as you may be interested in broadening your musical horizons? It contains music that has influences from UK Garage, an offshoot from US House that emerged in the late 90's, Dub music, a genre that grew out of reggae, and has a focus less on vocals, and more on drum and bass, Techno, House, and even more Metal based tunes. You can view the thread here: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=167366
You may find that some people disagree with a sound they have seen develop from 10 guys skanking in a basement becoming this mess, but that's ok, because all opinions are welcome here.
Thank you for your contribution, although it is not to my tastes, I appreciate the time you have taken to share it with us.
Can I politely suggest you view this thread, as you may be interested in broadening your musical horizons? It contains music that has influences from UK Garage, an offshoot from US House that emerged in the late 90's, Dub music, a genre that grew out of reggae, and has a focus less on vocals, and more on drum and bass, Techno, House, and even more Metal based tunes. You can view the thread here: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=167366
You may find that some people disagree with a sound they have seen develop from 10 guys skanking in a basement becoming this mess, but that's ok, because all opinions are welcome here.
Jah love.
It depends on the context of the argument mate. I agree with the above if someone is saying "Skrillex makes Dubstep".
It's not Skrillex's fault he's labeled Dubstep. Just as it's no coincidence Deadmau5's music ends up in the wrong genres. I think the above argument is about people denying him talent. Whatever reasons we have for disliking Skrillex you cannot fault his productions, even if you dislike brostep.