Brostep / Skrillex and the Forum.

[DJDM]

on a relevant note though,

I do wish labels would include download codes for people buying vinyl expecting someone to buy a release on two formats is expecting a bit much to be honest in these times (and that's where I can somewhat come to terms with the poor people excuse).
Or labels could generally spend more effort on digital downloads, like printable artwork or PDF booklets or whatever.
I know this would bring an added cost to the release. But I for one would be willing to pay extra for a digital package that is worthwhile, rather than two 320 kbps files and lowly digital artwork. In instrumental underground music, this is becoming more and more the case, I do not see why electronic music should stay behind on this. For me it would make it a whole lot more attractive to buy digital...

/end rant

i feel the same way.. digital is the only way i can purchase music, as i cannot afford a turntable.... but that doesn't mean i go out and steal one, though

But do you buy every single wav/flac/mp3 you listen to?

yes. unless the person who produced is giving it away for free

[-[2]DAY_-]

do you really want a pdf booklet ...... they'll take over your downloads folder, elect a new ruler and grant amnesty to the spam that your email filtered out

[DJDM]

do you really want a pdf booklet ...... they'll take over your downloads folder, elect a new ruler and grant amnesty to the spam that your email filtered out

no... but I do want a t-shirt for every album i purchase.


i'm not kidding. get on it burial.

[joeki]

maybe some of you skipped the CD era. But it was always nice to have some sort of extra with the music. I understand this is hard for a single, but EP's and full CD's would be more interesting with some sort of extra if you're going to purchase it digitally.
Of course, there is something to be said for just taking the music at face value..of course not all music is going to need this. But some of it could persuade me to buy, say an album, digitally rather than dish out 15 bucks or more for the 2x (or 3x) vinyl.

[DJ Mix]

sorry to "ontopic" but... WITHIN the dubstep scene skrillex is controversial too? hmmmm

i still hope that one day people of different musical persuasions can get along with each other.

i like skreamy, wobbly, midrange heavy brostep à la skrillex (in fact i just made a mix with 80% skrillex tunes, see my signature) AND deep musical ambient dubstep, i just usually dislike them thrown together in one mix. just as i don't like curry and ice cream mixed together (even though both have taste nice).

[-[2]DAY_-]

i love getting the booklets and art when i buy CDs.. i definitely didn't skip it, thats still how i buy music. even tho it is stupid considering they're just flimsy, outdated soft-drive discs that hold something like 350MB data... and the drives for them are on their way to being phased out of computers for good... I buy them bc i'm limited to digital playback, and i do want the extra, plus just the aspect of owning the physical copy. But i definitely DON'T want a PDF. We can come up with something better. If they can eliminate shipping costs, distros need to take advantage of it, but tbh I like getting things shipped, i like the anticipation of it arriving in the mail. They should put lossless .WAVs on a nice, decent looking thumb drive with a few gigs storage, and in there put a folder with the music, plus whatever else -- promo tunes, adverts, graphics, videos, freebies. And let it come in a box with artwork and booklets comparable to that of a CD. and finally, you get to keep the thumb drive, erase it and use it in your daily life. OR, ship it back for a discount on your next purchase. See, we don't have to decide between embracing the digital age, and having quality physical goods.

[-[2]DAY_-]

also we need playback decks that just have a USB thumb drive port, and a dedicated browser screen. Why they aren't already standard, i have no idea. Just a tiny little computer, reads the thumb drive and displays the files in a list. only displays audio files, can be sorted by whatever data field. ability to open the audio files and send playback through audio out line. Thats it....

edit: maybe we already do? could someone link me to a deck like this, preferably for car stereo

[Dub_freak]

sorry to "ontopic" but... WITHIN the dubstep scene skrillex is controversial too? hmmmm

Oh boy, you're in for a treat on this forum

[mrdii]

It sounded extremely electronic

Well...all of this stuff is electronic music. Dunno why people say all the brostep stuff sounds robotic either tbh; most of Autechre's stuff sounds more robotic to me. But they like to use it to describe something as soulless I guess.

What I mean is that stuff like big synths and wobbles sound straight out of a computer, whilst the darker more ambient stuff doesn't. Of course, it's all electronic at the end of the day but some stuff sounds more obvious.

[DJDM]

It sounded extremely electronic

Well...all of this stuff is electronic music. Dunno why people say all the brostep stuff sounds robotic either tbh; most of Autechre's stuff sounds more robotic to me. But they like to use it to describe something as soulless I guess.

What I mean is that stuff like big synths and wobbles sound straight out of a computer, whilst the darker more ambient stuff doesn't. Of course, it's all electronic at the end of the day but some stuff sounds more obvious.

skrillex vs. shackleton

[twothirdsmajority]

I don't agree with you mate. Commercial music in Japan is total bullshit. I know because I too have lived there long enough to know it. Traditional music, like the sorts you mention is something completely different than contemporary commercial music which is the point at hand, thus the comparison is irrelevant. Also, in 1954, piracy didn't exist in the first place so it's also pretty irrelevant to bring Fumiyo Hayasaka into play here....

I don't know, but enka is getting a small revival these days, thanks to certain artists like Jero from America.

I don't question that Japan does have a musical culture, on the contrary, but no quality mainstream culture anyway at least not on the same terms as the U.K. or Europe for example.

It's not really that bad compared to Korea. I mean, there's still hope in the likes of Mayaa Sakamoto for example, and it's great that composers like Yoko Kanno and Yuki Kajiura are still big on the charts.

And what you mention there about strong ties with art and respect, is exactly the same thing I said just more elaborate (and I stated before I didn't want to get into some anthropology discussion (what you just now made me do). If you want to call that wrong, be my guest though you lost me there?

I'm talking through an otaku/2ch POV. If you studied Japanese otaku devotion, it shows how supportive they are, with events like Comiket and the doujinshi culture in general. Also, look at strong fanbases for Japanese authors, painters and filmakers in 2ch. I know using 2ch as an example is silly, but 2ch can be a good example for knowing what's enjoyable and popular in Japan. Hell, i get to know Yukio Mishima and Toshiki Okada's works through a 2ch thread (He's still nuts though)

East-Asian markets for music are totally different from Western-Europe. Wealth comes into play but isn't the driving factor for this, which was basically my point (trying to avoid circle-discussions).

Dude, you probably never seen how the Japanese idol and Korean pop industry operates.

[joeki]

do they operate outside their markets? I mean, Outside of Japan, South-Korea and parts of China that is. That music market doesn't seam nearly as international to me as western commercial music.
Having said that, no you're right, I'm not an expert so forgive me if I spoke outside my turn (and that's not sarcastic or ironic, I'm serious!).

[twothirdsmajority]

do they operate outside their markets? I mean, Outside of Japan, South-Korea and parts of China that is. That music market doesn't seam nearly as international to me as western commercial music.
Having said that, no you're right, I'm not an expert so forgive me if I spoke outside my turn (and that's not sarcastic or ironic, I'm serious!).

Dude, check out K-Pop popularity in EVERYWHERE. Maybe a little in Europe, but man shit is cash in Asia. You can't go anywhere in Tokyo, Bangkok or Singapore without seeing a Girl's Generation or Beast song played.

Speaking of which,

[wobbles]

^for people who look at their music more than listen to it

[Dub_freak]

^for people who look at their music more than listen to it

That's what all pop music is like

[joeki]

I think I'd rather watch ^^ than

[hdechter]

Awww, cmon joeki. Who cares about the actual Skrillex song, you should at least visit his videos on youtube for the comment section:

this song makes me wanna go to Compton and confront all the bloods and crips
MyDaman12 37 minutes ago

brilliant! the album cover is win 2!
ShinyPope 4 hours ago

Skrillex never ceases to amaze me. Serioiusly, this song just gave me explosive diarrhea and I'm constapated! I don't even care that there's shit all over my room now... Keep doin what u do best Skrillex!.. BEING THE GOD OF DUBSTEP!!
MattBrown926 4 hours ago

this is what REAL dupstep sounds like! Fuck Benga and Burial
Flygon 5 hours ago

Ill ignore all the negative comments and let his grammy nominations do the talking
briasamazing 12 hours ago

Shittiest electronic album of all time meant for the tone deaf twats of the 10 minute generation.
superzenith 13 hours ago

Shall I compare thee to a pastry? You see,the drop in a Dubstep song is like the jelly in a jelly filled doughnut. You know its there and that you'll get to it eventually, and you know that others like it, but you don't know if you'll like it. And you begin to think that the song might be better without the jelly, but you realize that if the doughnut didn't have a drop, it wouldn't be nearly as interesting, or as lively as it is right.....NOW. [drop]
acrazyguy14 14 hours ago 34

[Sonika]

sorry to "ontopic" but... WITHIN the dubstep scene skrillex is controversial too? hmmmm

Oh boy, you're in for a treat on this forum

Yeah, bud, word to the wise, heads around here DON'T like Skrillex or any of the, as you put it, screamy mid range stuff.


Too formulaic.

[DJDM]

this is what REAL dupstep sounds like! Fuck Benga and Burial
Flygon 5 hours ago

[ultraspatial]

But do you buy every single wav/flac/mp3 you listen to?

yes. unless the person who produced is giving it away for free

More power to you then.
I personally can't afford buying everything I like/want, even though I'm not poor. I check out around 15-20 releases per day (singles, EPs, albums whatever). Some I like, some I don't. I don't see a point in buying something you don't like (and previews on websites aren't good enough). Where possible I'd honestly rather just buy merch, such as t-shirts or hoodies.

maybe some of you skipped the CD era. But it was always nice to have some sort of extra with the music. I understand this is hard for a single, but EP's and full CD's would be more interesting with some sort of extra if you're going to purchase it digitally.
Of course, there is something to be said for just taking the music at face value..of course not all music is going to need this. But some of it could persuade me to buy, say an album, digitally rather than dish out 15 bucks or more for the 2x (or 3x) vinyl.

I used to enjoy looking at artworks on tapes when I was a kid. Yes, fucking tapes. I still have a shitload of 'em. CDs though I never liked that much and I just made digital copies to play on my PC or whatever. Now I have almost no interest in things such as artwork (which is really just wasted disk space as I'm not ever going to look at it) or even actual physical formats. It's the music that counts in the end, not the packaging. I'd love to buy everything I like on vinyl, solely for the quality of it, but it's expensive.