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Bola
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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by Bola » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:09 am

thanks for comments and follow subfect

I definitely understand what you mean by its feelin a bit too empty, kind of a problem I have with a lot of my tracks. Gave the track a listen a couple of times again on my phones this time; for the hats you can try and use parallel / NY style compression to give it a little oomph but I've never used this technique myself haha just seen it being used in some video and it looked like it would help bring out a thicker sound. What I usually do sometimes is use a VST called Sausage fattener and give the sound a bit of fatness and color (setting of the knobs) by 10% / 5% or whatever sounds good. EQing also helps by allowing everything to sit in a nice place in the mix but i think you got that down already.
But on second thought you could probably leave the hats alone and not do this, maybe some slight panning or extra percussion might work that only gets used like once every 2 / 4 bars and has a good amount of reverb to create more space? Also you try puttin more pad or lead like noises that only come in for a small portion of a section and use it like an fx like how i used those dub stabs you mentioned

those are just some ideas but if i figure out anything else ill let ya know or you can throw me a msg on soundcloud anytime, need a break for some herb right now lolllllll :h:

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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by wearecorsairs » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:51 am

subfect wrote:
wearecorsairs wrote:who made you the king bruv
if you actually are then let me kiss your sovereign :lol:
oh hey look a smartass on the internet!

The guides on this thread are there for a reason - without them it doesn't work. Show a little respect to those who actually like to make this thing work, or don't post ;)
i didn't want any feedback ;-)

yer tunes alright man, could use some more cowbell tho
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Post by Gaol » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:26 am

Sorry for breaking the rules my first time. Definitely wont happen again.

@EFEKZ I liked it a lot but i did agree that it needed a little bit more. but still really good imo.

@alexyhermann wow that was awesome haha. I dont really know what else to say but that.

TiEREX I liked it a lot. definitely good.


This is only my 3rd song i believe. its got a long way to go.

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Post by freakquency » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:12 pm

@Cthulhu - nice intro man and big ups if its your first track in logic. hard DAW to get your head around.
however, at the drop i think the bottom end is too muddy and some instruments are clashing. ya need to clear up some space in the track. eq out everything that doesnt need to be there.

@Standby - strobe - very nice deep dubstep. loving the percussion throughout.
only thing id say is that it could do with some gritty whomps in the mid-range just to make it sound fuller.

@Hircine - sweet vibes man. great bass sound, but i think you should split the sound into more bands of frequencies and get rid of the low end.
then you can chuck a nice sub underneath and it will instantly sound more professional.

@willryan042 - cool ideas dude. 2nd part of the drop is a lot better than the first imo.
you just gota switch up the main synth a couple of times and it would sound so much better/more interesting.

@ScarletCyanide - great sounding intro here. i think you need to get some samples involved though for your drums. it would make everything sound a ton better.
and i think the drop could do with a snare as well and not just the kick.

@CrewCutz - suck-out - wicked tune man. flute samples are nice and so is that bass sound.
i think the kick could be a bit punchier though.

@subfect - sickk deep tune. this is the kind of dubstep i love and try to produce as well. nothing to criticise on.

@Bola - another banging deep track. nice work man. only thing id say is that its a bit repetitive.
switch it up a little. bring in a pad in one of the sections or something along those lines.

@Gaol - this does have a long way to go indeed. nice use of piano, but i dont think it should be playing non-stop.
its nice in the intro, but when the track drops you should have more parts similar to 1min44secs, where another synth takes over.



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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by cmgoodman1226 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:39 pm

@ gaol: Pretty good for 3rd. The kick and snare actually sound pretty good but they are buried waaaaay down. The reverb on the snare has way too much decay and low end coming through. They should be pretty much the most prominent things going on so you want to take everything else down a bit as it's far too loud. Also, I would personally change the piano you're using as it sounds a bit too much like a keyboard than a real piano. Also the piano has way too much low end in it and it's taking up a lot of headroom from where your sub should be. A good general rule for this type of stuff is to hi pass (or eq out) everything below 150 hz on everything except your sub bass and your kicks. The melody itself is pretty good. It's just the mix that sounds a mess (which is very understandable given that you're very new to this).

@freakquency: Really liking the sounds. Kick is hitting nice. The snare needs to either go or be layered with one that has more high end presence. It has good punch and mids, but not really clearly highs. I like the melody. You may want to add some hats or modulate the fine pitch/ attack / filter on the hat because it starts to get droning and monotinous after a bit. Also the mix sounds a bit harsh at times. I would take a look at a spectral analyzer and see if any sounds are peaking and maybe EQ. All in all this sounds really nice. I'd love to hear this finished up.

@bola: The only things I'd change is some of the sounds are a bit harsh on the ears frequency wise. I'd also change up the hats as they sound a bit cheesy with a track like this. I'd also add a few more hats. Really friggin good tune though. Nice sub, snare and kick. Nice sounds. Really well done!

@subfect: For some reason that snare sounds really stagnent to me. I'd personally also choose one that either sounds more real, or has a better dynamic high end in it. Also the ride that comes in seems like it needs to be pitched up and have some variation on it. Other than that, really nice sounds, nice mix, nice atmosphere, nice track!

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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by Bola » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:24 pm

@freakquency ez thanks for the feed; definitely workin on it so it isnt repetitive
@cmgoodman ez thanks for the feed, yea definitely need to put some swing with the hats instead of the panning straight 1/8ths, the second drop was a joke with those 1/16th hats hahahahaha
can you tell me what sounds are harsh need their frequencies fixed by any chance?

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Post by elefaze » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:41 pm

>>Freakquency Cool bass man. The percussion felt good and it had a few nice fills here and there. Adding some more elements might help to keep the flow going a little bit better.

>>cmgoodman1226 Interesting track. The pads and such in the beginning were nice, but I got bored pretty fast after that. Maybe it was the bass, not sure.

>>Bola Very dubby vibe. I liked the subby waoww in the background ^_^. Cool. Sounds like a clean mix down. Not my style though.

>>wearecorsairs Sounded a little muddy, eqing may be needed. I felt the lead high pitched ting was kind of aggrivating after a while. Was alright :P.

>>subfect Very chill, lots of effort went into background details I can see. The pad that sounded kind of like a voice was cool too. Nice.


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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by cmgoodman1226 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:23 pm

Bola wrote:@freakquency ez thanks for the feed; definitely workin on it so it isnt repetitive
@cmgoodman ez thanks for the feed, yea definitely need to put some swing with the hats instead of the panning straight 1/8ths, the second drop was a joke with those 1/16th hats hahahahaha
can you tell me what sounds are harsh need their frequencies fixed by any chance?
It's the echoey sounds seem to have that police siren frequency going on a lot. It's not terrible. but its really only in the echoey sounds and pads that I hear it that much.

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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by Bola » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:38 pm

for sure ill check it out thanks

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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by subfect » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:03 pm

@cmgoodman1226 - cheers for the feedback man, exactly the kind of critique I'm looking for :) I agree about the snare - I'm currently playing with layering a tambourine/ride over the top to give it a little more sparkle and interesting high-end, as you said. As for the ride - hmmm. I played with the pitch quite a bit and thought I got it right. Will have another look, thanks again :) Nice beat on your tune man - and bass is inspiring. I think that background pad though feels out of place. The detuning/pitching of it doesn't quite fit - could actually be the tonality of the pad itself that is causing issues. No other criticisms otherwise. Good work :)
@freakquency (sick name btw) - Cheers bud, am still working at it :) notched reeses are fantastic, they seem to be lacking a little weight though? Something about that snare is throwing me off - have you tried pitching it down 1-2 semitones? Seems to be just off the main pitch of the track.
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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by DJRaynes » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:32 pm

@Freakquency - Really digging the bass work :) Track definitely needs more high end presence though, sounds like you've got an EQ on the master cutting everythink above 10K or summit. Those percs/blips have got a good grove to them man, nice work :W:

@cmgoodman - Again nice bass work, but the timing needs looking at. To me it starts to sound more like a speed garage track. Maybe it's the hi-hats as pointed out previously. overall a good effort mate keep it up.

@Elefaze - The midrange on your lead sounds too prominent for me, could just be a preference of mine as the rest of the production sounds nice, like the breakdowns :)

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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by naroja » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:47 am

alexeyhermann: Very Nice stuff on the "you could have been" track! I love the vocals, reminds me of fifth element a bit :) It hink it could use a bit more breaks in the audio / vocals though, maybe some bass lines or something in there, a few drops sprinkled in :)

TiEREX: Sounds really Skrillex-e.... Some nice stuff in there though!

Zerbexian: Love the intro bit, I think the Yoy / Yay stuff may be too much for this track, starts off sounding reall classic, but all good stuff!
Standby: Hey man, great stuff, I love Standby! Strobe is also really nice, I think it needs a bit more power in there, mix needs to be a bit louder, but it's sounding great so far!

CrewCutz: Great tracks man! Very Creative stuff, and also love the shifty bass movements!

subfect: Love where this track is going, great sub & percussion, good job man!

freakquency: Love that track man!!! I don't really have any critiques except extend it :) Make it longer :D Maybe some phased sweeps to bring more energy to it, although it already has a lot :D

cmgoodman1226: The lead-up is nice, but it drones on a bit when it comes to the bass. I think it may need a bit more variation, a few breaks in-between and some other elements to mix it up.

elefaze: Sounds Cool, very Energetic!

DJRaynes: Hey man, very experimental sounding, not too bad, I like the arp pattern you got in there. I also like some of the ambient type weird sounds in the background, keep it up! I could see it turning into something eventually!



So, it's been a while since I've posted anything, buuut I have a few to show today, not sure if I should finish any of them or not, but tell me what you think! :D



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Post by bl0rg » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:51 am

@Gaol - i like the melodies in the song, however the percussion is far to quiet relative to the piano sound. Check out the moneyshot thread for a goldmine of info in gain structure (this could also be do to bad monitoring equipment) Also need SUB!

@Freakquency - damn i love that groove and your mid bass! The kick and snare lack a little in punchyness (try saturating or compressing them abit) The song could use a few one shots to spice things up (think uplifters and downers) and the bass could use a bit more automation. BUT overall I really like it.

@cmgoodman1226 - I like it once it drops, but the intro is sorta bland and lifeless (made me wanna fast forward). I like it once it drops, sounds a lot like neurofunk, but sounds a bit silly or happy (not sure if you are going for that since neurofunk is pretty dark) Good stuff. Reminds me, i need to finish my dnb stuff lol.

@elefaze - great professional sounds stuff (complextro amirite)? i think it would sound sweet with some more vocals, could make it a top song. Also maybe im deaf, but id sidechain a sub under that for more power :D

@djraynes - i really dont know what to make of it, is this like a chiptune song with a dubstep beat? sorry for my ignorance

@naroja - first one sound like a cool intro, needs some eqing so the drum can breathe (i realize its just a start :P). The other two are cool as well but are fairly unfinished so hard to comment on them, but i like the feel of them

Here's my WIP. Keep in mind it's not mixdown or mastered, and doesnt have a sub atm. (waiting to go back to studio for that). Please be gentle :corndance:

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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by eldoogle » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:53 am

Gaol - What cmgoodman1226 wrote about cutting out everything below 150 hz is exactly what I do, that's beneficial. Your song could use sub bass as well. Anywhere in the 40 hz to 80 hz range. Usually I will have mine 80 hz at highest but usually keep it in the 50, 60 hz range. And also I usually have the sub play the same notes as another instrument. Whatever the main synth is, the sub can follow that. You can be more creative latter once you've locked down some basics. The drums in your song sound good. Some new producers use the worst of samples, I know I used pretty bad ones. Good job for not making an abrasive song with high frequencies that hurt the ear. That and drum selection are major pitfalls for some.

freakquency - Cool intro. In fact, cool sounds all around. I need to get myself a short non crunchy but still present hat like yours (I'm not asking for yours though). The main bass is a little centered, maybe you could experiment with frequency splitting and having the high frequencies stereo while keeping the stuff under say 800 hz mono. Short and sweet song. Not bad.

cmgoodman1226 - Intro tells me a hardcore bro off's about to take place. Aw, but the drop off is super lame. It's not bad, but you had me thinking something else was about to drop and it didn't. Oh well it sounds good. I couldn't make DNB close to this at all. I think you need to keep the drop going but introduce a new section because it got stale. I'm sure this sounds better off Soundcloud.

Here's mine. Still not a amazing piece of music but I've improved, so I'm happy :)

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Post by DJRaynes » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:57 pm

@Naroja - Thanks for the words of encouragement, I was going for a more progressive sound so I guess it comes accross :)

@bl0rg - I'll take that as a compliment seing as that's what I was going for.

at work at the minute but I'll try and get some more critique going when I get back
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Tips and critisms please

Post by ericgasparro » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:44 pm

@Standby- Loving that track fractal, so chill. the percussions are sick too! bass with the kicks works perfectly.

mikeyp- cant really fault the red night, its lovely

ScarletCyanide- not really my style of dubstep, but its sounding good so far, think it needs a few high freq's thrown in there. sounds a little to muffled, but deffo has potential!

EFEKZ- sick track! nice and spaced out, doesnt get boring neither. loving it! only thing is a few higher range sounds would be nice.

subfect- Void is right up my alley, delish dungeon sounds! a few more angry reeces please!





ok so ive been trying to produce music for a week now on fl 10. been saying i'd do it for ages. This is something ive been working on. Its pretty much the 1st thing ive created. Would love some tips and critisms for the track. just wanna keep improving :)

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Post by bl0rg » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:46 pm

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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by antman » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:05 pm

@Ericgasparro: Leave feedback for others if you want feedback.

@eldoogle: Intro synth is pretty cool. The intro was a little too long for me though. Your drum pattern is pretty cool. Your bass is ok. The breakdown is pretty cool. Heres my tips, Shorten the intro, that synth got boring after a while. Try adding a few effects in the background while your bass plays, you know some random bleeps and bloops and shit like that. Other than that the sounds are pretty good. Hope to hear more.

@Bl0rg: Haha gangsta ass track. But like you said it needs a sub and some mastering. Hope to hear more.

@Naroja: First track: Pretty cool, honestly throw some deep wub sounds under it and make it a dubstep track, or use that as some sort of intro, lots of room for growth.

Second track: Never heard the original, but once again lots of room for growth, Make it a track instead of just "some thing" you made.

Third track: Throw a sub under those crunchy sounds,add a kick snare beat and you've got a dubstep track.

All your stuff is a great start, I think you should build off these one by one.

@DJraynes: Id cut this in half and use it as an intro, that leads into something that sounds the same, but with a heavier synth and some wobbles.




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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by bodom418 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:51 pm

@elefaze: the breakdown has a cool "circus" kind of vibe, which i think is wicked! not sure if thats what you intended, but, keep it anyhow lol. And fuuuck this drop rules. Feel like the synths may need a tad more high-end, possibly could be done with a quick EQ push

@blorg: nice intro atmosphere, its cool and creepy. the drop is sick! tasteful shit! good balance as well. 1:37 onward and that whole bit is dooope

@ericgasparro: deep, snares do start to feel "dominant" after a while, maybe they could be brought down a touch

Looking for general feeback on this one, mostly regarding mix and build-up advice. Feel like the build up is really lacking something, and more could be done to build tension towards the drop.

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Post by Gaol » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:24 pm

@eldoogle thanks for the feedback. I actually put this song on a cd and listened to it in a car and noticed i needed some sub bass in there. I put it in real quick while i was at school and it follows my main synth. I havnt listened to what it sounds like yet or eq'ed it but i have added it.

@blorg Thanks for the thread i will definitely check that out.

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