Dubstep Forum Awards 2012 : Voting

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Re: DUBSTEPFORUM AWARDS 2012 : Voting Started!

Post by grooki » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:52 am

Maccaveli wrote:
grooki wrote:In the interests of democracy, it would be good if in each category the list of nominees was randomized... not hatin, just sayin :)
Wait, what? How would that be democratic?
It would reduce the incidences of "donkey votes" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_vote), which is when people vote according to how the candidates are listed on the paper. In the DSF awards case, the nominees at the top would have an unfair advantage simply because they appear at the top of the list. I would guess this is emphasised by the Juno player - I imagine a lot of people would listen to, say, the first 3 or 4 tracks, and then vote. So the people down the bottom of the list would suffer due to being down the bottom where not as many voters will listen to them. Even MORE damaging would be the fact that you can see how many votes each nominess has before voting has finished. This would tend to skew future votes towards nominees that already have a lot of votes - for example if there are three nominees clearly in the lead, I think a lot of people would listen to their three tracks only, and then only choose between those three tracks, which would put those three further in the lead, which would increase the tendency for the next voter to do the same thing...

What I am proposing is that someone write a function which randomises the names so that no one has the advatage of being at the top, both on the list and in the Juno player. And definitely get rid of the bars showing how many votes each nominee has before the close of voting.

I know it's just a bit of fun, but why not have a fair bit of fun? ;-)

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Re: DUBSTEPFORUM AWARDS 2012 : Voting Started!

Post by Maccaveli » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:40 am

Ah, I get you. The way you typed it made it sound like you wanted the actual nominees to be randomised. In that case, yeah I agree :W:

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Re: DUBSTEPFORUM AWARDS 2012 : Voting Started!

Post by brasco » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:33 am

Never mind.
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Re: DUBSTEPFORUM AWARDS 2012 : Voting Started!

Post by joeki » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:16 am

No it's fair this way, if I understand correctly, the people with the most nominations are at the top, whilst the lowest on the bottom, at least this was the case in the past. So it's fair, regardless of the donkey vote principle.

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Re: DUBSTEPFORUM AWARDS 2012 : Voting Started!

Post by dubway » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:25 pm

joeki wrote:No it's fair this way, if I understand correctly, the people with the most nominations are at the top, whilst the lowest on the bottom, at least this was the case in the past. So it's fair, regardless of the donkey vote principle.
exactly

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by dubway » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:15 pm

Every voter gets Free Track Bundle provided by junodownload.com:

01 Rusko - Everyday (Netsky remix)
02 Sepalcure - See Me Feel Me
03 Kromestar - Outer Limit (feat Team Starfleet)
04 Broke N Folk - Trapped In A Window For The Rest Of Your Life (Sorrow remix)
05 Be-1Ne - Revelation
06 Blend Mishkin - disco Vampire (feat BNC - Turntable Dubbers remix)
07 Bloodman, Soraya & Secret MC - Nightlife
08 Marco del Horno - This Town Is Ours (feat Emi Green - Dream remix)
09 Numa Crew - Eleven Dub
10 Dillon Francis - Bossa Rocka (Sharkslayer remix)
11 Kill Moda - Nobody Move
12 Photek - Avalanche
13 MRK1 - Living A Lie (Damn You Mongolians remix)
14 Macabre Unit - History Of Macabre (DJ Mix by Demon)
15 Sparxy - Exile
16 Cardopusher - Nice Up (feat Juakali)
17 Point B - Off The Beaten Track
18 Throwing Snow & PY - Wallow
19 Jazzy Jazzy - Heron
20 Author - Dashiki
21 Geiom - Plunja

If you already voted you will found new link to Free Track Bundle on http://www.dubstepforum.com/awards/vote_form.php

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by joeki » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:18 pm

20 free tracks people!

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by Dub_freak » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:13 pm

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by craft » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:28 pm

Voted for different people as best dj and best 120-140 dj even though they both play at that tempo. Take that system, in your face! we trippy etc

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by mIrReN » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:17 pm

Thanks & big ups Badger, don't worry I won't let this happen again next year :corntard:
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Re: DUBSTEPFORUM AWARDS 2012 : Voting Started!

Post by grooki » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:40 pm

dubway wrote:
joeki wrote:No it's fair this way, if I understand correctly, the people with the most nominations are at the top, whilst the lowest on the bottom, at least this was the case in the past. So it's fair, regardless of the donkey vote principle.
exactly
Well, I can see the logic behind arranging the nominees in order of who received the most nominations, but this does not make it fair per se. The donkey vote principle would still apply, as would the influence of being able to see the number of votes each nominee has received so far. All I'm saying is that the results would probably be different, if only slightly, if these things were changed.
Anyway, no biggie, I just thought I would point that out. Carry on!

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by joeki » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:28 pm

hehe point taken :) and I can understand what you are saying.
But let's be honest here. The margin of difference doesn't outweigh, for example, the nature of people's curiosity and also, their trust.

People want to see who's winning! they don't want to wait another month to see how their favourite is doing. Also, this way, showing the amount of votes accumulating, the organisers/mods/DSF-crew shows that they are not tampering with any results.

I like it this way, another year of great effort and organisation and some well deserved recognition for some of the artists (you can see they appreciate it by the number of nominees that have advertised the awards on twitter/facebook).
And we get a bunch of free tracks.

It still is exciting in two or three categories, any latecomers could still change the outcome. Other categories are seeing predictable winners though.

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by masterchief » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:00 am

i voted when there only a few free tracks given out? how can i get them all?

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by T_macabre » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:52 am

dubway wrote:Every voter gets Free Track Bundle provided by junodownload.com:

01 Rusko - Everyday (Netsky remix)
02 Sepalcure - See Me Feel Me
03 Kromestar - Outer Limit (feat Team Starfleet)
04 Broke N Folk - Trapped In A Window For The Rest Of Your Life (Sorrow remix)
05 Be-1Ne - Revelation
06 Blend Mishkin - disco Vampire (feat BNC - Turntable Dubbers remix)
07 Bloodman, Soraya & Secret MC - Nightlife
08 Marco del Horno - This Town Is Ours (feat Emi Green - Dream remix)
09 Numa Crew - Eleven Dub
10 Dillon Francis - Bossa Rocka (Sharkslayer remix)
11 Kill Moda - Nobody Move
12 Photek - Avalanche
13 MRK1 - Living A Lie (Damn You Mongolians remix)
14 Macabre Unit - History Of Macabre (DJ Mix by T_!)
15 Sparxy - Exile
16 Cardopusher - Nice Up (feat Juakali)
17 Point B - Off The Beaten Track
18 Throwing Snow & PY - Wallow
19 Jazzy Jazzy - Heron
20 Author - Dashiki

If you already voted you will found new link to Free Track Bundle on http://www.dubstepforum.com/awards/vote_form.php
Th Dj mix is by myself T_!, it's listed incorrectly on Juno unfortunately- Demon has asked for it to be changed on there...
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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by internazionale » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:00 am

What a nifty idea! Thanks DBSTPF :)

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by Sparxy » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:18 am

We added a tune to the free bundle, hope you guys like it :)

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by internazionale » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:25 pm

Sparxy wrote:We added a tune to the free bundle, hope you guys like it :)
Now that's just evil :) (Having just DL'd before, that is.)

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by garethom » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:48 pm

internazionale wrote:
Sparxy wrote:We added a tune to the free bundle, hope you guys like it :)
Now that's just evil :) (Having just DL'd before, that is.)
Pretty sure you could just go to the link and "buy" the new tunes?

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by internazionale » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:10 pm

Ah! Well, this is too good. Gotta go buy some stuff as well...

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Re: Dubstep Forum Awards 2012

Post by Phase Down » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:56 pm

Nice awards going DSF! Also Sparxy what a tune in ur sig never noticed your stuff before!

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