Top 15 Dubstep Tracks of 2011

[luke snowbarger]

I guess it's kind of hard to explain to people who don't live in America. He's built an inclusive ultramodern audience of enthusiastic listeners in America and abroad, who now in short idolize him. Just as you may still cherish your first experience of dubstep and your beliefs may be propped upon it, as do some new listeners, primarily in America see Skrillex in the same manner. He's a front runner for this new generation establishing at least in America for that matter. We realize it has been going on in the UK and what not. But Americans view it as, if you didn't make it in America, you didn't make it all.

[daeMTHAFKNkim]

but obviously skrillex appeals to a lot more people than burial. you can't deny skrillex's skill. nobody can.

you answered your own question. it's about what's the most appealing to the mainstream audience. most of the nominees and winners are pop music in their own categories (not pop as in genre, but as for "popular music"). that doesn't mean that everything nominated for a grammy is shit, but it definately doesn't mean that it's great quality either. awards like these are for people, who don't have the time or the ambition to get deeper into music and therefore always stay on the surface of things, which is fine when it works for them. but it's a fact that there are loads of producers and artists out there, who have a higher quality level than most of these pop artists, but still don't get recognised, because their music is too challenging to sell it to billions, who are satisfied with what the mainstream media channels serve them.
as for skrillex, i can't say i'm an expert in music theory or production or that i analyzed all of his tunes, but from what i heard, i can't recognize the genius and impeccable skills a lot of people claim. it just sounds flat and plastic to me, with no soul or swagga.

Fucking poetic, spot on, and couldn't have been stated better.

@hutyluty: I don't hate you, and I don't hope you die. I like you a lot.

Everything you said

What you said

I exaggerated a lot and was pin-pointing on how some people talk on dsf. I'm not claiming to be here since day 1 but re-enacting what people say and some of their thoughts.

What I said shouldn't offend you or whomever it doesn't apply to if you don't think like that obviously. I'm not here to spout fights with everybody. No I'm not a homophobe and saying stuff like that is pretty much being a smartass because you know how I meant it. It's 2012 and everyone uses words loosely.

I never said anyone HAS to go to these concerts/shows/raves/whatever. I just recommend on trying to go to one of these shows for experience. You never know so why bash on it? (Implying this overall)

Yeah I'd admit I'm being immature on this post/being a bitch/crazy whatever but that's the only way to communicate to people like this(read through the pages) is by going down on their level and saying the same shit so they know how it is.

If I made a thread specifically to just bash on Mala/Coki/Kode-9/Burial etc. etc. I'd get so much shit for it & you know it. But I don't hate them and actually listen to some of em and careless.

And why did I make a huge wall of text? Cuz I see a new thread/post of bashing brostep/skrillex everywhere. Even on dubtunes & feedback to people that need help in the Production section. I guess that's life and there's nothing to stop that but hey, at least I say I tried.

It comes down to respecting everyone in this forum for who they are and what they listen too. Not skrillex/brostep/jungle/rap/rock whatever. The same people that bitch and complain about skrillex 24/7 are the same ones giving people smart-ass replies for the ones that need help.

[Charco]

Gotta say mate, you're coming across like a top knobhead.

Nobody cares what you listen to, it doesn't make an opinion more valid.

Nobody actually listens to anyone if they say Skrillex's music is easy to make.

To say he got there himself when he was pushed massively by Deadmau5 is a bit of a joke. If you have one of the world's biggest dance artists bigging you up and putting stuff out on his label, you're gonna get popular. Fair does, he hasn't been "marketed" in the traditional sense as much as Lady Gaga, Beyonce, etc. but he still isn't nearly as big as those 2 artists. This is the age of "following" on the internet, and people will trust their favourite producer'/dj's opinions.

Catchy is subjective.

Listenable is subjective.

Nobody has to admit anything.

Scary Monsters & Sprites. I don't know if I've even heard that track, so certainly couldn't hum it.

People don't hate on Skrillex so much. It's largely blew out of proportion by people that think they have to defend him from a handful of people on a forum.

1. Some people didn't like him ever. Those people that don't like him anymore because he's mainstream? Their opinion isn't valid. By implying that everyone liked him at one point, you're no better than those you're having a go at.

2. You've been here since day 1 for dubstep? You said you started listening in 2009. There's a whole 7/8 (or maybe even more) years that you may have missed out on.

3. You say don't judge people, then use the terms "cigarette" and "gay" in a derogatory manner. Way to put your argument across in a mature manner. Lost any lingering respect I had for you there, because you're either a homophobe, or more likely I suspect, someone that had ran out of ways to justify your point.

4. It seems YOU could be insecure because of the massive diatribe you've written in defence of him. If you aren't insecure, accept that some people don't like somebody you do, and move on.

You also never see anyone hate against "traditional" dubstep? There's plenty around (youtube especially).

This doesn't happen on almost every thread whatsoever, a complete exaggeration, that is typical of people that slate DSF, but still come here every day.

Nobody has to go to any show they don't want to. I prefer to stand there with a good DJ spinning some tracks, get a skank on with a few beers, vibe, speak to some friends (And that includes girls too. Yes mate, they go to these nights too). A lot of people don't want lights or massive shows, or for things to be "epic".

In summary, your comment got you nowhere.

Mods, feel free to move this response to the Skrillex thread.

Big ups.

But Americans view it as, if you didn't make it in America, you didn't make it all.

More's the pity.

[luke snowbarger]

But Americans view it as, if you didn't make it in America, you didn't make it all.

More's the pity.

Yes I admit it's sad. But I for one do not agree with that. I'm just speaking for Americas enormous ignorance issues.

[hutyluty]

lol- mt eden

lol - the song in your sig.

Yeah I put shit like Mt. Eden on purpose cuz I have the balls to say what I enjoy in music and stand up for it. So what.

How can you not chill to this song while high? Reminds me of the summer nights years back. Who the fuck gives if it has 5mil plays and the other vid has 28mil. I'm not gonna hate it cuz it got big. If that's not the reason for you then please explain.

lol

[luke snowbarger]

lol- mt eden

lol - the song in your sig.

Yeah I put shit like Mt. Eden on purpose cuz I have the balls to say what I enjoy in music and stand up for it. So what.

How can you not chill to this song while high? Reminds me of the summer nights years back. Who the fuck gives if it has 5mil plays and the other vid has 28mil. I'm not gonna hate it cuz it got big. If that's not the reason for you then please explain.

lol

Word.

Mt Eden BU^

[Pistonsbeneath]

i dont like that mt eden track but its just because of the amount of hits

the production is flawless tbh...especially the drums..the snare whoooah

[garethom]

If I made a thread specifically to just bash on Mala/Coki/Kode-9/Burial etc. etc. I'd get so much shit for it & you know it. But I don't hate them and actually listen to some of em and careless.

Just the same as there are many people on here who that create a thread to bash Skrillex that get shit from people like you. It's insecurity.

To be honest, I can't remember the last time I read a thread that was created to bash Skrillex. Sure threads get derailed with arguments, but still, it's another exaggeration about DSF born out of insecurity from failing to deal with other people having different tastes.

[garethom]

i dont like that mt eden track but its just because of the amount of hits

the production is flawless tbh...especially the drums..the snare whoooah

u have to assign the snare to a 3rd dusteb beat in the massive lfo and press beatmatch then you will be able to play at the shows with the well coool visuals and girls.

[daeMTHAFKNkim]

If I made a thread specifically to just bash on Mala/Coki/Kode-9/Burial etc. etc. I'd get so much shit for it & you know it. But I don't hate them and actually listen to some of em and careless.

Just the same as there are many people on here who that create a thread to bash Skrillex that get shit from people like you. It's insecurity.

To be honest, I can't remember the last time I read a thread that was created to bash Skrillex. Sure threads get derailed with arguments, but still, it's another exaggeration about DSF born out of insecurity from failing to deal with other people having different tastes.

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... &start=540 A thread dedicated to it and people arguing as we speak, Lol. Why do people even do it in the first place then? And it's the majority of this forum. Move on with life(Hypocritical I know). For myself I say I can try while I'm on this forum but it's pretty immature & filled with hate/smart ass remarks so I'm saying something now.

I've read that one thread about the girl getting gunfingered at some concert. Same thing. And the people in the same position I was seemed to be in was the Moderators. And they were getting ridiculed. If you don't know what I'm talking about then oh well. Hope ya get my point. It's not about Skrillex. Not about Brostep. I understand if you don't like Skrillex/Brostep/Mt Eden whomever. But why post shit like "OMG guys don't click his top 15, it has Skrillex/Brostep on it" Bunch of girls really.

[Molzie]

gunfingered at a brostep party. it's a scumbag scene.

[meshblorg]

I do feel like Sonny overshadowed a lot of talent. But don't bash him for making it. You just look ignorant, not smart. It's really not rocket science. He worked hard. He played hard. He's extremely talented. Put underground and the past aside, Sonny set a new standard. It is what it is.
Cinema was the top dubstep track of 2011, simply because it was the top dubstep track of 2011. End of story.

Yeah it's kind of impossible to not acknowledge his success. I mean any list without skrillex is basically cutting out the year's most successful song "Cinema." Besides it's a fun tune. DROP DA BASS!

[garethom]

If I made a thread specifically to just bash on Mala/Coki/Kode-9/Burial etc. etc. I'd get so much shit for it & you know it. But I don't hate them and actually listen to some of em and careless.

Just the same as there are many people on here who that create a thread to bash Skrillex that get shit from people like you. It's insecurity.

To be honest, I can't remember the last time I read a thread that was created to bash Skrillex. Sure threads get derailed with arguments, but still, it's another exaggeration about DSF born out of insecurity from failing to deal with other people having different tastes.

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... &start=540 A thread dedicated to it and people arguing as we speak, Lol. Why do people even do it in the first place then? And it's the majority of this forum. Move on with life(Hypocritical I know). For myself I say I can try while I'm on this forum but it's pretty immature & filled with hate/smart ass remarks so I'm saying something now.

I've read that one thread about the girl getting gunfingered at some concert. Same thing. And the people in the same position I was seemed to be in was the Moderators. And they were getting ridiculed. If you don't know what I'm talking about then oh well. Hope ya get my point. It's not about Skrillex. Not about Brostep. I understand if you don't like Skrillex/Brostep/Mt Eden whomever. But why post shit like "OMG guys don't click his top 15, it has Skrillex/Brostep on it" Bunch of girls really.

That thread is specifically for all things Skrillex on the forum. One giant thread rather than loads spread out everywhere, so that isn't an valid example.

Again, it's no a majority of the forum at all mate, complete exaggeration. This place is quality, there's so much information available, and it's probably 5% moaning. If you only spend time on those threads, no wonder you think it's a majority.

Look dude, I was one of the people that defended this guy's list.

Your principles aren't my issue. It was your overblown and ridiculous statement about brostep, defending a producer that has got more than enough fans already and presumably couldn't give a shit about what people say.

Whatever, I don't wanna hit a brick wall here. Peace.

[meshblorg]

I guess it's kind of hard to explain to people who don't live in America. He's built an inclusive ultramodern audience of enthusiastic listeners in America and abroad, who now in short idolize him. Just as you may still cherish your first experience of dubstep and your beliefs may be propped upon it, as do some new listeners, primarily in America see Skrillex in the same manner. He's a front runner for this new generation establishing at least in America for that matter. We realize it has been going on in the UK and what not. But Americans view it as, if you didn't make it in America, you didn't make it all.

Well said but I will say that non-brostep is still catching slowly in the US too. People may learn about dubstep through Skrillex initially but many then get interested in the more underground stuff.

[meshblorg]

Let's not stress out about the more mainstream successes in the chart

Does anyone here want to talk about the tracks in the Top 15 that aren't the top 3? Perhaps some of these artists who made it into the chart.

Ajapai
Arkasia
Distance
Noisia
Subscape
Stylust Beats
16bit

Would love to hear some feedback on those.

[Maccaveli]

Well that Distance track is quality, but I'd hardly call it 'the classic sound of dubstep'. I mean yeah Distance has been in the game since '05 but it doesn't mean everything single tune he makes is 'the classic sound.' Still, solid tune and the best on the list imo.

Crowd Control isn't technically dubstep, off by about 10bpm, but you could say the same about any track on this list for one reason or another. I think even Excision has said he's trying to forge his own path seperate from dubstep by trying other tempos. Also, the track '2005' off that Excision and Downlink EP shits on pretty much anything else either of them have put out since Swagga.

I like the occasional 16BIT, and even though this was far from their best tune its still alright. Definitely not top 15 material. If you had to include 16BIT then I would've gone for Dinosaurs personally.

Bass Cannon? Eh. It sounds like Flux is taking the piss out of himself with this tune, so I respect that if nothing else. Having heard it on a big system I can say that it lacks the weight required to live up to its name, but I guess that's the compromises one has to make when trying to appeal to kids listening to the shit on $50 Logitech speakers at best.

And as for Cinema, I honestly like it in a party situation, its one of the 5 or so Skrillex tunes that I can actually enjoy. Number 1 though? Come on man, picking a number 1 based on popularity is a recipe for disaster, you know as well as I do that mainstream success doesn't equal quality. Shit, it was only a few years ago that 'Crank That' by Soulja Boy was the most popular song of the year. Does that make it the best?

Can't really comment on the rest, but here's my advice: for the good of your website, your rep here, the scene as a whole, whatever, start including all different kinds of dubstep. If a few of these tunes were in a well-rounded list then everyone here probably wouldn't have a problem with it, but the music you promote and the content of this list seems to be drawn exclusively from the UKF-driven commercial brostep crowd. Look at my top 15 on the previous page for example, it has a bit of everything. If that's not something you can handle at the moment, maybe try spending some time on this forum listening to recommendations and such rather than just staying in your own threads defending Skrillex and co?

Peace.

[luke snowbarger]

Well that Distance track is quality, but I'd hardly call it 'the classic sound of dubstep'. I mean yeah Distance has been in the game since '05 but it doesn't mean everything single tune he makes is 'the classic sound.' Still, solid tune and the best on the list imo.

Crowd Control isn't technically dubstep, off by about 10bpm, but you could say the same about any track on this list for one reason or another. I think even Excision has said he's trying to forge his own path seperate from dubstep by trying other tempos. Also, the track '2005' off that Excision and Downlink EP shits on pretty much anything else either of them have put out since Swagga.

I like the occasional 16BIT, and even though this was far from their best tune its still alright. Definitely not top 15 material. If you had to include 16BIT then I would've gone for Dinosaurs personally.

Bass Cannon? Eh. It sounds like Flux is taking the piss out of himself with this tune, so I respect that if nothing else. Having heard it on a big system I can say that it lacks the weight required to live up to its name, but I guess that's the compromises one has to make when trying to appeal to kids listening to the shit on $50 Logitech speakers at best.

And as for Cinema, I honestly like it in a party situation, its one of the 5 or so Skrillex tunes that I can actually enjoy. Number 1 though? Come on man, picking a number 1 based on popularity is a recipe for disaster, you know as well as I do that mainstream success doesn't equal quality. Shit, it was only a few years ago that 'Crank That' by Soulja Boy was the most popular song of the year. Does that make it the best?

Can't really comment on the rest, but here's my advice: for the good of your website, your rep here, the scene as a whole, whatever, start including all different kinds of dubstep. If a few of these tunes were in a well-rounded list then everyone here probably wouldn't have a problem with it, but the music you promote and the content of this list seems to be drawn exclusively from the UKF-driven commercial brostep crowd. Look at my top 15 on the previous page for example, it has a bit of everything. If that's not something you can handle at the moment, maybe try spending some time on this forum listening to recommendations and such rather than just staying in your own threads defending Skrillex and co?

Peace.

Straight up.

[meshblorg]

Well that Distance track is quality, but I'd hardly call it 'the classic sound of dubstep'. I mean yeah Distance has been in the game since '05 but it doesn't mean everything single tune he makes is 'the classic sound.' Still, solid tune and the best on the list imo.

Crowd Control isn't technically dubstep, off by about 10bpm, but you could say the same about any track on this list for one reason or another. I think even Excision has said he's trying to forge his own path seperate from dubstep by trying other tempos. Also, the track '2005' off that Excision and Downlink EP shits on pretty much anything else either of them have put out since Swagga.

I like the occasional 16BIT, and even though this was far from their best tune its still alright. Definitely not top 15 material. If you had to include 16BIT then I would've gone for Dinosaurs personally.

Bass Cannon? Eh. It sounds like Flux is taking the piss out of himself with this tune, so I respect that if nothing else. Having heard it on a big system I can say that it lacks the weight required to live up to its name, but I guess that's the compromises one has to make when trying to appeal to kids listening to the shit on $50 Logitech speakers at best.

And as for Cinema, I honestly like it in a party situation, its one of the 5 or so Skrillex tunes that I can actually enjoy. Number 1 though? Come on man, picking a number 1 based on popularity is a recipe for disaster, you know as well as I do that mainstream success doesn't equal quality. Shit, it was only a few years ago that 'Crank That' by Soulja Boy was the most popular song of the year. Does that make it the best?

Can't really comment on the rest, but here's my advice: for the good of your website, your rep here, the scene as a whole, whatever, start including all different kinds of dubstep. If a few of these tunes were in a well-rounded list then everyone here probably wouldn't have a problem with it, but the music you promote and the content of this list seems to be drawn exclusively from the UKF-driven commercial brostep crowd. Look at my top 15 on the previous page for example, it has a bit of everything. If that's not something you can handle at the moment, maybe try spending some time on this forum listening to recommendations and such rather than just staying in your own threads defending Skrillex and co?

Peace.

I don't know man I heard Diplo drop Bass Cannon at the 26,000 person Tiesto concert in LA and I almost fell down from the bass hitting me. Secondly not every single dubstep song has to be 140bpm. Crowd Control's 150bpm is just fine and Bassnectar has plenty of drumstep tunes that go even higher. There's a whole range for dubstep just like there is for other genres. House can go as low as 115bpm and as high as 135bpm. Trance as low as 126 and as high as 145bpm. The top 3 were just had to be for the year's biggest and most widely celebrated tunes by Flux, Nero, and Skrillex. All three of those tunes were catchy, popular, and Cinema stands out the most of any tune in 2011.

There's a bunch of tracks that were close but just didn't make "tune of the year." A lot of underground stuff is like that. Like Phaeleh feat Soundmouse - The Cold In You http://lessthan3.com/#!/2011/12/the-good-phaeleh

[JBoy]

daeMTHAFKNkim, you come across as such a whiny little yank tosser. Get skrillex's dick out of your mouth and man up, no one gives a shit if you like his 'music' and every track you listed is some tripe you listen to on youtube. Leave the serious music to people that care about the scene instead of teenagers wanking over filthy drops.

[meshblorg]

daeMTHAFKNkim, you come across as such a whiny little yank tosser. Get skrillex's dick out of your mouth and man up, no one gives a shit if you like his 'music' and every track you listed is some tripe you listen to on youtube. Leave the serious music to people that care about the scene instead of teenagers wanking over filthy drops.

The things you say hurt It's about the love of the music. Drop the hate