SOPA and DSF?

[Cornbreadddd]

Before watching this video, I honestly had no understanding of the corruption of this bill and the problems which it will cause. For those who are living in the UK or any country it also will affect you drastically. (Watch the bit at around 1:45 or so that tells of the British student face extradition to the US for linking copyrighted content, poor fellow didn't even host it!)

This bill is honestly really not about piracy, but about control and power. I implore that everyone watch this video as it exposes some incredibly astonishing information to which I was completely ignorant and it honestly amazes me how corrupt the national leaders and elite members of our global society are.

This explains everything you need to know and more, absolutely appalling, sickening even.

* Edit: Please excuse the goofy guy, though I understand he is querky and kind of annoying, the information he presents is sound and will completely enlighten those who aren't already aware of this massive corrupt scheme for power and control known as the "SOPA Bill."

[daeMTHAFKNkim]

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=231735

SOPA has been going on since November. Welcome to life.

[Sonika]

I agree...I had to get past his voice and facial expressions first though, lol

[test_recordings]

Does SOPA mean DSF can be taken down?

Could we just connect directly straight to the IP if it did?

[Paradox_2012]

Does SOPA mean DSF can be taken down?

Could we just connect directly straight to the IP if it did?

But you really dont see at what level thats taken us to?
Its like asking the police for a hall pass to go to a Burger King?!?
That's straight Marshall Law dictatorship status! We cant let some assholes go around tell us that posting shit on websites it bad
its the way the internet was built for, to share information and media. For all we know this has more than a effect on just DSF...

Imagine all the sites that you spent hours on day in and day out completely get taken down all because they want to stop piracy?
Which it wont! Shit is always get rearranged and piracy will be around for as long as we know because there will always be
a whole bunch of people (the majority) that can't support them selfs with shitty jobs and want some simple entertainment for
free. Piracy is to the internet users as what Health Care is to Canada, not necessary but always there for the ones that need help.

[twothirdsmajority]

Well here's the most fucked up thing about SOPA:

http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technica ... a-and.html

According to the link above, SOPA will basically will try and close down any website around the world that posts even a photo that is copyrighted in America.

http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technica ... a-and.html
An example would be this:

Here's a song & video by Craig David:



But wait, this song is copyrighted by Warner Music Group (WMG) in North America, and under SOPA, the RIAA & WMG will close down DSF because i posted a song that is copyrighted by WMG in the USA, despite DSF and Craig David being UK properties.

That's the most fucked up thing about SOPA. It will try and hamper global access to the Web because some fuckers think that infringes American copyright.

[BonerJams04]

SOPA & PIPA really really scare me. At this point though, and as a Canadian, I don't feel like there's much I can do to help you guys out. I feel for you guys so bad.

You might be seeing me up in Canada if shit like this goes through

[BonerJams04]

Does SOPA mean DSF can be taken down?

Could we just connect directly straight to the IP if it did?

Just in case, someone needs to figure out the exact IP. I couldn't live without you guys

[Solemn]

if this bill gets passed through congress. this shit will effect everyone who even uses the internet.
and will pretty much see the end of the free speech of the internet.

[Phigure]

Does SOPA mean DSF can be taken down?

Could we just connect directly straight to the IP if it did?

Just in case, someone needs to figure out the exact IP. I couldn't live without you guys

lol if SOPA passes, you're not gonna be able to get around it just by connecting to the IP.

[Soiree]

if SOPA passes DSF is where the terrorists hang. maybe the mods will start letting us swap files...

[mikeyp]

just so everyone knows, obama has already stated he will not sign this bill and a majority of representatives in congress have stated they are against it as well.
it'll keep coming back though.

[eddiecrosby]

Well as an indication of what copyright is to enable a student in the UK is to be extradited to the United States faces charges for 'copyright violation' supposed: he posted links to multimedia content that was available free elsewhere.

[tge]

The bill was withdrawn 2 days ago. No more SOPA for a few years at least.

[robbiej]

I wouldnt be surprised if this recent take down of megaupload (in the same week as the sopa/pipa blackout and withdrawl) by using the existing DMCA provisions is really a step to get sopa/pipa (or whatever they will call them when they are re introduced) more support.

Step one: have a a maior global take down of one of the largest file sharing sites on the web.
Step two: try to demonstrate the massive losses as a result of this site (and ones like them).
Step three: fail to successfully prosecute those charged @ megaupload. (at least show that the punishment they receive (they wont let them totally off the hook) does not reflect the damages they ve caused to those poor entertainment corporations.)
step four : use this failure to show politicians how weak and useless existing legislation is against these "pirates". (ie DMCA)
step five : re introduce sopa/pipa with additional support from politicians and copyright holders.

I could just be paranoid. but it all seems too convinient that this take down would occur and the bill would be dropped at the same time. Does anyone really belive that reddit and wikipedia and a few othere going offline is rellay going to influence major legislation inthe us government. it seems like a smoke screen to me. Im sure things are going on behind the scenes and these bills will be back, likely more draconian than before.

[test_recordings]

Well here's the most fucked up thing about SOPA:

http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technica ... a-and.html

According to the link above, SOPA will basically will try and close down any website around the world that posts even a photo that is copyrighted in America.

http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technica ... a-and.html
An example would be this:

Here's a song & video by Craig David:



But wait, this song is copyrighted by Warner Music Group (WMG) in North America, and under SOPA, the RIAA & WMG will close down DSF because i posted a song that is copyrighted by WMG in the USA, despite DSF and Craig David being UK properties.

That's the most fucked up thing about SOPA. It will try and hamper global access to the Web because some fuckers think that infringes American copyright.

Anything that gives Craig David the power to manipulate the internet should be resisted...

[mikeyp]

I wouldnt be surprised if this recent take down of megaupload (in the same week as the sopa/pipa blackout and withdrawl) by using the existing DMCA provisions is really a step to get sopa/pipa (or whatever they will call them when they are re introduced) more support.

Step one: have a a maior global take down of one of the largest file sharing sites on the web.
Step two: try to demonstrate the massive losses as a result of this site (and ones like them).
Step three: fail to successfully prosecute those charged @ megaupload. (at least show that the punishment they receive (they wont let them totally off the hook) does not reflect the damages they ve caused to those poor entertainment corporations.)
step four : use this failure to show politicians how weak and useless existing legislation is against these "pirates". (ie DMCA)
step five : re introduce sopa/pipa with additional support from politicians and copyright holders.

I could just be paranoid. but it all seems too convinient that this take down would occur and the bill would be dropped at the same time. Does anyone really belive that reddit and wikipedia and a few othere going offline is rellay going to influence major legislation inthe us government. it seems like a smoke screen to me. Im sure things are going on behind the scenes and these bills will be back, likely more draconian than before.

i wouldn't put anything past our shitty government. although i do believe the major websites going down did do a whole lot. google is the most powerful web organization (who owns youtube, let's not forget) and i'm pretty sure they'd do just about anything to keep shit from happening

[illandnatti]

I wouldnt be surprised if this recent take down of megaupload (in the same week as the sopa/pipa blackout and withdrawl) by using the existing DMCA provisions is really a step to get sopa/pipa (or whatever they will call them when they are re introduced) more support.

Step one: have a a maior global take down of one of the largest file sharing sites on the web.
Step two: try to demonstrate the massive losses as a result of this site (and ones like them).
Step three: fail to successfully prosecute those charged @ megaupload. (at least show that the punishment they receive (they wont let them totally off the hook) does not reflect the damages they ve caused to those poor entertainment corporations.)
step four : use this failure to show politicians how weak and useless existing legislation is against these "pirates". (ie DMCA)
step five : re introduce sopa/pipa with additional support from politicians and copyright holders.

I could just be paranoid. but it all seems too convinient that this take down would occur and the bill would be dropped at the same time. Does anyone really belive that reddit and wikipedia and a few othere going offline is rellay going to influence major legislation inthe us government. it seems like a smoke screen to me. Im sure things are going on behind the scenes and these bills will be back, likely more draconian than before.

I believe 100% that SOPA and PIPA are smoke screens for other bills and new bills in the future. For example, the White House comes out publicly against SOPA, but passed the NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) without a hitch! Under this act, the President can use the armed forces of the US military to indefinitely detain 'suspected terrorists,' AKA any American Citizen they don't like, while suspending due process and other rights guaranteed by the 5th and 6th Amendments.

SHIT IS APPALLING!

The people making the decisions about piracy and the US Constitution are going about this all wrong. When the DMCA was passed, the opposing answer to it in the underground was Napster, which brought big record companies to their knees. When they clamped down hard on Napster, bit-torrent was born. Several years back when they raided the 'bit-torrent headquarters' in Europe, Asia, and Australia, the torrent heads decided to spread their servers so thin, over so many locations, that it would be impossible to bust them all. Now the Entertainment Industry comes out with SOPA and PIPA.

Whenever the government or EI tries to use more viscous force to block out piracy, hackers and people underground always find a newer, equally more viscous solution to go around it. I don't see any long term solution ever coming from this way of thinking. It's like water, you can try to dam the flow, but it'll just flow somewhere else regardless.

The solution as I see it, is that the EI has to create a product that is more attractive to users than it's piratic (new word I just created) counterpart. Netflix Instant is a great example of a possible solution. If you can pay 1 lump sum ($8 US per month) to watch most of your favorite movies and TV shows all month long, why wouldn't you? It's way easier to click play on Netflix than it is to wait 2 hours to download the same HD film illegally via bit-torrent. Netflix Instant combined with the DMCA is a great carrot/stick combo, and something like that needs to be done with music. Music needs to be more readily available and easier to distribute/receive for the rate of piracy to go down.

[Today]

well i don't get it but if they censor out internet porn i'm grabbing the torches n pitchforks

[cyrusfx]

Its weird that the whole Megaupload thing went down the very next day after it was announced that SOPA was being shelved.

My congresswoman changed her mind about SOPA over the course of two (internet-prompted) letters -- so, democracy still works, see! (at least when Google or Wikipedia wants it to).

I don't know enough about the anti-piracy laws already in effect to understand why the owner of Megaupload of jailed -- yes, they make a profit from advertisements, but they certainly have no control over who uploads copyrighted material. Its also weird that Swizz Beats is Megaupload's CEO, and Alicia Keys is his wife. Aren't they like platinum-selling artists and stuff?

I believe SOPA will come back under a different form, and yes, it will be the beginning of the end of the internet as we know it. And we (the U.S.A.) will join the illustrious ranks of Dubai, Iran, China, Saudi Arabia and a handful of other countries whose governments impose restrictions on internet access.

But the whole shit's going down in the next couple years, after the Eurozone collapses and China realizes we will never repay our massive debt, and the rest of the world figures out that their reserve currency is worthless, so none of this will matter.