Production rant of my first track and it being 7 months.....

Sonika · Post by **Sonika** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:09 pm

You shouldn't either! At the risk of sounding redundant with a lot of the heads on this forum, you shouldn't do music to "blow up."
I'd love to be signed, and eh yeah sure it would be cool to get big I guess. But my first and foremost reason that I produce music is because I love to create it and it makes me happy. That should be the driving factor

daeMTHAFKNkim · Post by **daeMTHAFKNkim** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:38 pm

Sonika wrote:You shouldn't either! At the risk of sounding redundant with a lot of the heads on this forum, you shouldn't do music to "blow up."
I'd love to be signed, and eh yeah sure it would be cool to get big I guess. But my first and foremost reason that I produce music is because I love to create it and it makes me happy. That should be the driving factor

Eh yeah I do sound like that but it's for the right reasons. I'm doing it for the music. I'm not one of those peeps that'll ignore others that need help or seem too good for whoever. I'll be glad to share tips/patches/techniques I use etc.

My actual goal was to get big with a band but it's close to impossible to find people where I live that are dedicated/skilled/trustworthy/with the same taste of music/goal(Parkway Drive/Incubus/Asking Alexandria/Ballyhoo type music, I have written songs for reggae/hardcore screamo crap/classic rock? I actually have a rap song too LOL

. And my bro has been played on the radio before with his old band that sounded like a mix of Tool & In Flames & been in a bunch of other bands(reggae, pop/rock, folk). So I asked him to be the drummer but he dipped out to live with his gf in another state. So I gave up on that whole thing and noticed I didn't have to depend on anyone for producing electronic music.

I excel at things I love to do which is skateboarding/music/games LOL. Which pretty much isn't good for anything. I hate school/schoolwork/working a dead-end job & getting paid shit/if I went to college I'll probably drop out just like a lot of people I know that already did. So there's pretty much nothing I can do. So I hope you understand my situation, ha :l

If all else fails. I'll just live as a bum being happy. Cheers.
Good song btw with great lyrics.

Anne Droid · Post by **Anne Droid** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:47 pm

dude, its been 7 months.

no one is "good/great" at anything in 7 months. think about it, everyone you listen to/ compare to has been at it for YEARSSSSS

if you still sound like shit in 2-3 years then give up and find a new hobby lol

or just become a DJ

didge · Post by **didge** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:50 pm

daeMTHAFKNkim wrote:I've also done "X" twice since I've gotten a new comp + "MoLLY" twice. Maybe i've lost brain cells lol?

Lol.

Hircine · Post by **Hircine** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:55 pm

Give up on bands. If you want to make real money in music industry, go work in a studio, study enough to become a session musician, do live sound or start a label. None of that is possible without proper studying and contacts and you would find yourself working with more audio than music or art. Every adolescent / young adult is good at skating/music/games. I used to think that too until I got into college and turns out that I'm great at juridic antropology too

. Studying music or audio/acoustic engineering will be no different from schoolwork. Studying is where the real money is.

ChadDub · Post by **ChadDub** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:59 pm

Trust me, man, once I decided I wanted to produce dubstep it took me like a month to produce my first track. After that, I started learning a lot and really getting into it, and that pretty much made all of the techniques I used in my first track disappear, because I wanted to learn all of what I did in my first tune. It was sort of like (and still is) putting together a puzzle. Eventually, after 2 years of producing, I know pretty much all I need to to make quality stuff.

I didn't produce anything else (that was actually good) after my first track until like 2 years passed.

daeMTHAFKNkim · Post by **daeMTHAFKNkim** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:36 pm

Anne Droid wrote:dude, its been 7 months.

no one is "good/great" at anything in 7 months. think about it, everyone you listen to/ compare to has been at it for YEARSSSSS

if you still sound like shit in 2-3 years then give up and find a new hobby lol

or just become a DJ

Haha okay. Will do.

didge wrote:
daeMTHAFKNkim wrote:I've also done "X" twice since I've gotten a new comp + "MoLLY" twice. Maybe i've lost brain cells lol?
Lol.

Hircine wrote:Give up on bands. If you want to make real money in music industry, go work in a studio, study enough to become a session musician, do live sound or start a label. None of that is possible without proper studying and contacts and you would find yourself working with more audio than music or art. Every adolescent / young adult is good at skating/music/games. I used to think that too until I got into college and turns out that I'm great at juridic antropology too . Studying music or audio/acoustic engineering will be no different from schoolwork. Studying is where the real money is.

I never even been in a band yet. Unless a 1-man band counts :l . Yeah it's easier said than done though, I'll try and get somewhere with this. I actually used to nerd it up and play Halo 3 competitively for MLG

. And not to sound cocky but I think I'm better than all the locals I've heard that make dubstep/in bands that spam stuff on facebook and do shows all the time. I'm on the down-low and keeping things a bit of a secret till things start coming out well. Well I love cooking & working out...nothing else really interests me honestly. Is anthropology insects? I'm just taking a wild guess. I was thinking of going to college for music but I thought of the other pointless classes I would have to take + $$$ costs. So I just stuck with the plan to learn everything myself online via dubstepforum.

ChadDub wrote:Trust me, man, once I decided I wanted to produce dubstep it took me like a month to produce my first track. After that, I started learning a lot and really getting into it, and that pretty much made all of the techniques I used in my first track disappear, because I wanted to learn all of what I did in my first tune. It was sort of like (and still is) putting together a puzzle. Eventually, after 2 years of producing, I know pretty much all I need to to make quality stuff.

I didn't produce anything else (that was actually good) after my first track until like 2 years passed.

Yeah it's pretty much a vigorous process to get by. I've been trying to produce every single day because if I stop for a couple of days or a week then I forget some key things and other random stuff. I always hear people saying dubstep is so easy to make and they don't even produce. Lol yeah fucking right. Shit's a never ending cycle.

Hircine · Post by **Hircine** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:52 pm

Pointless classes = the base for your humanistic formation as a human being / base for the rest of the course.

Sonika · Post by **Sonika** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:54 pm

Ditto at that last point about dubstep being easy to produce.

Every fucking kid makes the same shit brostep and puts it on YouTube. It all sounds like Skrillex, made with a cracked version of fruity loops and massive.
If anything kills dubstep, it'll be that. However, Im super young and I've seen a few other young guys who are trying something new and different, so I have hope.

What will make you stand out is if you do something different. Get your own style, bring something new to the game. That's what gets you noticed

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:55 pm

Listen to a song that fits your current emotion. Try to emulate that feeling in a new track. Finish track.

Huts · Post by **Huts** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:19 am

daeMTHAFKNkim wrote:
I've seen it a bunch of times in threads and on the internet elsewhere....that dubstep etc. is going to die down really fast compared to any other genre of music. I don't know why but I believe so too seeing how everything seems similar now/repetitive such as UKFDubstep. It seems like it hit the peak of what sounded new and isn't getting any more unique then it has gotten too.

Idk that's just me though. That's why I'm trying to hop on the boat before it sinks. And everything I make will sound like everyone elses shit.

I'm more excited about dubstep now than I've ever been before, the tearout stuff may be getting old but dubstep as a whole is fine. Nothing wrong with wanting to make money from music, but chasing the hot new thing is only going to leave you in the back of the pack imitating what's "hot". You have this huge sense of urgency over something that just can't be rushed.

It's already been said but try making other music, or other styles of dubstep. Step away from the intricacies and over-processing of the whole tearout sound and just make some bare bones tunes that you can bang out quick and work on your workflow/structure etc.

ChadDub · Post by **ChadDub** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:09 am

Hircine wrote:Maybe the genre is the problem. When I first started producing, I was in contact with many electro house producers and for some reason I couldn't get anything on that genre to sound good. Then I switched over to prog house, then brostep, then I just realize that I liked dub / reggae and dubstep influenced by it / world music. What you like to listen the most is one thing, what you like to produce is totally different.

Dude, THIS IS SO RIGHT ON.

In the beginning, I really wanted to produce brostep, and I still do, but I just don't like to produce brostep. I wish I did because it's just so cool to listen to, but what I really like to produce is just chill minimal types of music.

eldoogle · Post by **eldoogle** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:40 am

Yeah I'm a lover of brostep first, and electro since 2006, and dubstep, some DNB. But when I made my album most of it is electro house which is very odd because I hardly listen to it now. Most of it isn't what it used to be. And I put out my album this month fyi.

e-motion · Post by **e-motion** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:48 am

Dubstep easy to produce... I LOLED. So what's hard to produce?

Hircine · Post by **Hircine** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:54 am

e-motion wrote:Dubstep easy to produce... I LOLED. So what's hard to produce?

Classical Music? Progressive / Math Metal?

e-motion · Post by **e-motion** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:58 am

Oh I meant produce, audio wise, not music wise

Sonika · Post by **Sonika** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:05 am

Yeah the people who say that have never actually say down and tried it

Muncey · Post by **Muncey** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:40 am

How many tunes you made in 7 months?! I've just got myself a midi controller but my laptop broke so its being fixed and haven't had a chance to use it yet... i've been reading up on music theory and other stuff, so i've not even had a chance to play around yet. I don't expect to have a full song made in the first year, i'm gunna be learning FL inside out as well as a shit load of music theory. I don't think you can ever know enough music theory that couldn't help you out.. even if it just means you understand music in general a bit better.

As everybody else has said, take a break.. do something else thats constructive and my advice would be don't be too hard on yourself. Why not instead of concentrating on one full track, make a few incomplete tracks.. mess around, if its shit.. move on and don't spend too much time on one thing. You can spend a year making one tune or you can spend a year making hundreds of incomplete tracks/loops whatever and end up following up and completing one out of the hundreds you made and i garentee it'll be miles better than if you concentrate on one. 7 months is nothing, i think you're expecting stuff to happen too soon.

I know i'm not really in any position to give advice but i think i've got the right mentality. Hey ho! Hope all works out in the end!

Sonika · Post by **Sonika** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:20 am

A great producer (I forget who lol) once told me that I should work to finish tunes, but if the same time if I make a tune and the next day when I wake up, I hate it, don't finish it.
Thats why I have so many WIPs, but that's alright. Don't feel dragged down by a shitty time that you're making. If you're not feeling the vibe of the entire tune, recognize that and realize that it would be more fruitful to just scrap it and start over.

If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.

ogunslinger · Post by **ogunslinger** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:22 am

you need to practice alot

and stop blaming your computer

it's the indian not the arrow, remember that

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