Production rant of my first track and it being 7 months.....

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:57 am

When you feel uninspired, go back an listen to the type of music you like that isn't edm. Don't try to analyze it or anything just listen to it as a consumer not as a producer and appreciate it. For me listening to sax jazz just gets my mind racing try to figure out how to implement different elements into dubstep try it out

Sonika · Post by **Sonika** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:59 am

^ I've played jazz guitar for around 7 years, so I obviously love jazz. I LOVE to sample old jazz tunes, some horn solos just provide a divine amount of awesomeness to some tracks

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:01 am

Sonika wrote:^ I've played jazz guitar for around 7 years, so I obviously love jazz. I LOVE to sample old jazz tunes, some horn solos just provide a divine amount of awesomeness to some tracks

I've a shit ton of horn and sax samples man I love chopping them and making my intros with them

Sonika · Post by **Sonika** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:06 am

Yeah it provides an endless amount of opportunities, I love to chop em up and then put some cool effects on em and just generally play around...
I also like to sample jazz hi hats and some jazz snares every once in a while...brush drumsticks provide amazing atmosphere

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:10 am

Sonika wrote:Yeah it provides an endless amount of opportunities, I love to chop em up and then put some cool effects on em and just generally play around...
I also like to sample jazz hi hats and some jazz snares every once in a while...brush drumsticks provide amazing atmosphere

Check out loopmaster jazz/world pack man it's got it all

JBE · Post by **JBE** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:31 am

Has nothing to do with your computer. I produce everything on a toshiba laptop I paid 300 dollars for. I also pretty much only use Freeware. I own a few synths that I picked up on sale for like 20-30 dollars just for the hell of it. It's not what you're using, it's how you're using it.

Sounds to me like you are trying to force something good to come out. You can't force creativity and inspiration. The more you try the more frustrated you will get, and you'll never be happy with the outcome.

Shum · Post by **Shum** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:18 am

Don't give up dae!

cmgoodman1226 · Post by **cmgoodman1226** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:17 am

As far as your lack of desire to get a dead end job goes,I would find a waiting job man. I make anywhere from $100-250 a night waiting tables. It's the best paying job you're likely to get without going to some sort of trade school (barring djing) or without a degree.

benjam · Post by **benjam** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:06 am

Wtf did you think it was gonna be like??? 6 months messing around on massive and straight onto the world tour??? Id just give up if I were you tbh

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:07 am

6 whole months

how have you not become famous

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:31 am

To long didn't read the whole thread but basing on your tune you linked...

Wheres the vibes, the energy, the thing making me want to listen to more than 5 seconds?

Structure, good quality sounds?

Seriously; i'm 6-7 years deep in this and still am not making perfect music - do what feel right - you don't have to conform and use shitty wobbles to make good quality music what will get people listening to it; you also shouldn't "want to make a career" out of music because "its your life".

Its not your life - its a passion you wouldn't mind getting paid for.. Have fun with it while you're not getting paid for it and maybe eventually - you'll get there.

I think the main advice to give about this whole situation is man up, make music for fun and stop glory hunting.

Filthzilla · Post by **Filthzilla** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:34 am

I can't believe you would put your inability to make good tunes down to the fact that you've got a new computer or this:

daeMTHAFKNkim wrote:...maybe cuz I stopped smoking bud?

Sonika · Post by **Sonika** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:05 pm

Stop hating guys he came here for help not to be shitted on

__________ · Post by **__________** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:57 pm

7 months? Go put some hard work in and come back in 7 years.
I listened to your tune in the first post. It sounds like you've been producing for 7 months. That's not a diss.

Sonika wrote:Stop hating guys he came here for help not to be shitted on

No, he came here looking for a shortcut.

djbmc · Post by **djbmc** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:07 pm

Producing music should be fun, chill out about making amazing tracks for now and concentrate on something like sound design for a while, just build patches and save them, learn a few techniques and eventually you'll hit on an idea but there's no point in forcing it.

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:33 pm

Sonika wrote:Stop hating guys he came here for help not to be shitted on

no-one is hating, facts are facts
either he accepts that it is a labor of love or not
but the topic he is discussing has been rehashed on this forum 2000x
music is not affected by a good pc, smoking dope or being cool
if the op doesn`t realize that yet then he needs to stop a review his reasons
even when you battle you should see it as an opportunity to learn

daeMTHAFKNkim · Post by **daeMTHAFKNkim** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:47 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:When you feel uninspired, go back an listen to the type of music you like that isn't edm. Don't try to analyze it or anything just listen to it as a consumer not as a producer and appreciate it. For me listening to sax jazz just gets my mind racing try to figure out how to implement different elements into dubstep try it out

Yeah I kind of do that with music I listen too. Thanks for the suggestion.

JBE wrote:Has nothing to do with your computer. I produce everything on a toshiba laptop I paid 300 dollars for. I also pretty much only use Freeware. I own a few synths that I picked up on sale for like 20-30 dollars just for the hell of it. It's not what you're using, it's how you're using it.

Sounds to me like you are trying to force something good to come out. You can't force creativity and inspiration. The more you try the more frustrated you will get, and you'll never be happy with the outcome.

Yeah that was my point to myself pretty much. It doesn't matter how good/shitty your computer is. It really is based on the person making the tunes. It's kind of helping though cuz of RAM/mixing. Pretty much it though.

Shum wrote:Don't give up dae!

Haha I won't. Thanks for the moral support though.

cmgoodman1226 wrote:As far as your lack of desire to get a dead end job goes,I would find a waiting job man. I make anywhere from $100-250 a night waiting tables. It's the best paying job you're likely to get without going to some sort of trade school (barring djing) or without a degree.

Yeah that was actually what I was going to do but I don't have a car... My mom has been a waitress for about 10 years now. So I know a lot about it and the good pay.

legend4ry wrote:To long didn't read the whole thread but basing on your tune you linked...

Wheres the vibes, the energy, the thing making me want to listen to more than 5 seconds?

Structure, good quality sounds?

Seriously; i'm 6-7 years deep in this and still am not making perfect music - do what feel right - you don't have to conform and use shitty wobbles to make good quality music what will get people listening to it; you also shouldn't "want to make a career" out of music because "its your life".

Its not your life - its a passion you wouldn't mind getting paid for.. Have fun with it while you're not getting paid for it and maybe eventually - you'll get there.

Yeah I understand but I never stuck with any goals before and I actually want to make things happen for once/not let the people around me down.

£10 Bag wrote:7 months? Go put some hard work in and come back in 7 years.
I listened to your tune in the first post. It sounds like you've been producing for 7 months. That's not a diss.

Sonika wrote:Stop hating guys he came here for help not to be shitted on
No, he came here looking for a shortcut.

Well the tune I posted was the first dubstep tune I made back in June 2011. Then the one in my sig is from December 2011. Just to clear things up.

I guess you can say I'm looking for a shortcut because a lot of you guys are more experienced than me so tips would be great. It's not like you're going to come to my house and produce for me. Shouldn't be that bad.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:51 pm

Honestly, from the bottom of my heart... There is no tips apart from doing it.

When you learn guitar you still have to get your fingers to work with your mind innit?

Its the same with production, you learn what goes with what, how to build patches, how to carry a vibe and how to structure your tunes by just trial and error.

Learn music theory, understand how subtractive synthesis works and get on it every day you can. Thats the best advice anyone can give; theres no top gear top tip.

Anne Droid · Post by **Anne Droid** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:59 pm

i actually disagree with not making finished tracks. I think its really important to see it all the way through. Just like playing in a band.you are trying to make a piece of music, not make a particular sound.

its funny how people get so obsessed with mid/lead basses as if they are going to stumble upon the next "Cinema" drop, yet they pay such little attention to alllllll the other factors in a track and get discouraged.

if you havent been at it for a few years, dont be obsessed with lead bass sounds... yes its very important, but so are drums, sampling, melody, ambience, transitions, etc etc

sunny_b_uk · Post by **sunny_b_uk** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:00 pm

i totally agree about learning what you can about music theory, learn a bit by bit and try to practice it. also spend a lot more time making melodies and chords fit together and then make them progress into variations of the same melody, keep practising that and for now mainly use basic synths that sound good like charlatan or 3xosc (if u have FL) just so you are forced to make good sounds with just sine and saw waves + filters.. you will learn a lot doing this, even if your at an advanced level.
dont give up and make a new project too much, make a melody that sounds good to you and keep spending hours/days building it up!
trying all these things eliminated my writers block before and now i always feel comfortable making melodies and making them flow, and this is coming from someone who doesnt own a midi keyboard

also i agree with anne droid, idc about getting ripped on this BUT i do rate skrillex.. not for his basses, i really like the melodies and themes of some of his songs and it totally just sounds like days & weeks were put into some of his intros. everyone works differently i guess.. i dont have trouble making abstract intros with a bunch of timestretching, delays and droning reverbs. however when it comes to melodic intros in a lot of detail.. its hard work and people dont realise that the intro of some of these brostep songs probably took longer than the basses being made + chopped around.
just my opinion i guess.

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