Ableton Operator vs Massive

Volatile Psycle · Post by **Volatile Psycle** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:03 pm

RandoRando wrote:Massive is subtractive.

Technically it isn't

Ldizzy · Post by **Ldizzy** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:35 pm

wanted to point that out but it felt unnecessary meheheh

Volatile Psycle · Post by **Volatile Psycle** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:51 pm

Ldizzy wrote:wanted to point that out but it felt unnecessary meheheh

Killamike49 · Post by **Killamike49** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:21 pm

Honestly each has their strong points and their methods to achieving them. Massive takes like 2 seconds to whip up any kind of quick bass, so it's good for quickly getting ideas out, and if you spend some time tweaking it, you can do whatever you want with it. It's the synth that's easiest to automate. FM8 is a god among men. Seriously, if you know anything about FM synthesis easy shit. Absynth sounds really great too, but i haven't really dove into it.
If you want a super versatile synth, get reaktor. Haha, Komplete has turned me into a native-instruments salesmen.

RandoRando · Post by **RandoRando** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:27 pm

Volatile Psycle wrote:
RandoRando wrote:Massive is subtractive.
Technically it isn't

how do you figure, im not including the FM knob in the modulation section.

Volatile Psycle · Post by **Volatile Psycle** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:32 pm

Killamike49 wrote:Komplete has turned me into a native-instruments salesmen.

If i had the money i'd buy komplete and probably ditch everything else as it has everything i'd ever need...and more!

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:14 pm

RandoRando wrote:
Volatile Psycle wrote:
RandoRando wrote:Massive is subtractive.
Technically it isn't
how do you figure, im not including the FM knob in the modulation section.

massive is a combination of wavetable, subtractive and phase modulation synthesis.

Ldizzy · Post by **Ldizzy** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:27 pm

bc it mostly works with wave tables

RandoRando · Post by **RandoRando** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:33 pm

oh yeah, i forgot about the wavetable, i wwas just thinking about the filters

stepwriterun · Post by **stepwriterun** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:51 pm

Another bundle of synths to consider is fxpansion's dcam synth squad. The last time it was on sale it was $99.

symmetricalsounds · Post by **symmetricalsounds** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:17 pm

another bunch of synths that sound fucking cool but i didn't enjoy programming them.

Ldizzy · Post by **Ldizzy** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:43 am

are synthsquad that interesting, demos make em sound like very rubbish tools

symmetricalsounds · Post by **symmetricalsounds** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:38 pm

sound wise i liked them, i generally don't look at the demos but just jump in and program a patch from scratch.

joegrizzly · Post by **joegrizzly** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:31 am

I like massive, but i'll always bounce it down and do a little resampling if its needed... I dont know if its because ive been using massive longer than i've been using Ableton, but i'd prefer massive as its easier to use.. for me atleast.

hifi · Post by **hifi** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:52 am

VirtualMark wrote:
RandoRando wrote:
Volatile Psycle wrote:
RandoRando wrote:Massive is subtractive.
Technically it isn't
how do you figure, im not including the FM knob in the modulation section.
massive is a combination of wavetable, additivew/some subtractive qualities* and phase modulation synthesis.

additive,additive,additive

fixd for u

JTMMusicuk · Post by **JTMMusicuk** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:39 am

Hypefiend wrote:
VirtualMark wrote:
RandoRando wrote:
Volatile Psycle wrote:
RandoRando wrote:Massive is subtractive.
Technically it isn't
how do you figure, im not including the FM knob in the modulation section.
massive is a combination of wavetable, additivew/some subtractive qualities* and phase modulation synthesis.
additive,additive,additive

fixd for u

thats what i was thinking

JTMMusicuk · Post by **JTMMusicuk** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:42 am

does anyone know of any good tutorials for FM8 or operator? id love to know how to use them to their full potential

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:16 pm

Hypefiend wrote: additive,additive,additive

fixd for u

massive isn't an additive synth, don't know where you got that from?

JTMMusicuk · Post by **JTMMusicuk** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:18 pm

VirtualMark wrote:
Hypefiend wrote: additive,additive,additive

fixd for u
massive isn't an additive synth, don't know where you got that from?

just did some research and yeah, it deffinitly isnt

RandoRando · Post by **RandoRando** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:10 pm

JTMMusicuk wrote:does anyone know of any good tutorials for FM8 or operator? id love to know how to use them to their full potential

THE "trifonic" fm8 tutorials are really good, just search trifonic

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