Electronic Music is for Chavs.

[Laszlo]

For some reason we've been taught to consider poor people as offensive on the eye even if they're not really doing anything wrong... it's really quite disturbing.

My theory is it's because of disgust. In 'olden' times the poor were often diseased and so were disgusting to look at.
This disease often came from poor standards of living and so poverty became synonymous with disease
disease = not nice to look at
disease = poor
poor = not nice to look at
and so it was passed down from mother to daughter and father to son until we get to the 21st century and anyone wearing a certain type of clothing is to be looked down on because they probably have lice or an sti.

[el-tel]

In scotland, we call them neds, and they'd kick your chav's stnuc in.

I wouldnt argue with that.

me neither, the're stabbing eachother from the moment they got out the womb up there!

[el-tel]

thing is, you dont have to be working class to be a chav, its a lifstyle for the unconscious.

[JBoy]

Why is it ok to charicature poor people's clothes/accents, but not rich?

On this forum, because the majority of members seem to be from lower middle-class backgrounds judging by their comments, where sneering at a step below your social ranking is acceptable.
Where as if you go waltzing onto a deprived council estate, in your shiny polo gear, talking the queens plumbs, down your iPhone4S, you will pay for your privileged background of ignorance.

Yeah they deserve to get mugged dont they.

Yes.

N one deserves to get stabbed, trainers robbed maybe.

[Pedro Sánchez]

Why is it ok to charicature poor people's clothes/accents, but not rich?

On this forum, because the majority of members seem to be from lower middle-class backgrounds judging by their comments, where sneering at a step below your social ranking is acceptable.
Where as if you go waltzing onto a deprived council estate, in your shiny polo gear, talking the queens plumbs, down your iPhone4S, you will pay for your privileged background of ignorance.

Yeah they deserve to get mugged dont they.

Yes.

N one deserves to get stabbed, trainers robbed maybe.

Yes.

[magma]

On this forum, because the majority of members seem to be from lower middle-class backgrounds judging by their comments, where sneering at a step below your social ranking is acceptable.
Where as if you go waltzing onto a deprived council estate, in your shiny polo gear, talking the queens plumbs, down your iPhone4S, you will pay for your privileged background of ignorance.

Yeah they deserve to get mugged dont they.

Yes.

N one deserves to get stabbed, trainers robbed maybe.

Yes.

I don't think he said they'd deserve it, but anyway, it's a bit of a ridiculous fear all the same. I've got a posh voice and have never had any trouble from those we're taught to fear - I imagine that's true for the majority of people... it doesn't seem too different to warning white women not to hang out with black men because they might get raped... or telling white kids to avoid black clubs because they might get robbed or shot. We shouldn't be preaching fear to encourage segregation, we should be preaching a message of inclusion so that everyone feels a part of society and nobody feels okay about acting against it - whether that's through selling crack to the neighbours or selling someone a mortgage in the full knowledge it'll lead to their house getting resposessed.

We're ravers. Ravers love everyone. We should be leading the charge against prejudice, not perpetuating it.

[Motorway to Roswell]

We're ravers.

[kay]

What about people from Essex? Are we allowed to hate on them?

[Pedro Sánchez]

What about people from Essex? Are we allowed to hate on them?

Yes.

[magma]

We're ravers.

As I wrote it, I heard it in the Fast Show "We're Cockerneys, don't you know!" voice.

[AxeD]

The last tune in op's sig is a chav.


What's a chav?

[Pedro Sánchez]

Anyone who lives outside of London is allowed to fucking despise London and it's people, it's a civil duty.

[clifford_-]

What about people from Essex? Are we allowed to hate on them?

Yes.

only if your from kent.


marsh dwelling lazy eyed essex flatlanders!

[magma]

Anyone who lives outside of London is allowed to fucking despise London and it's people, it's a civil duty.

"Go to London, I guarantee you'll either get mugged or not appreciated. Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway..."

[Pedro Sánchez]

Anyone who lives outside of London is allowed to fucking despise London and it's people, it's a civil duty.

"Go to London, I guarantee you'll either get mugged or not appreciated. Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway..."

Twat you beat me to it, I was actually trying to find the clip of him saying 'London, or as I call it...S-H-I-T-H-O-L-E...Shithole'

[kidshuffle]

Interesting though... if "Projects" was used in the same way in America, it'd be fairly obvious racism. Lucky we've got so many poor, urban whites so we don't fuck about and accidentally accuse ourselves of the same thing.

Err, I don't know if I'd go that far, but I get your point. I think the US is different though, because of how many waves of racial migration/mixing in neighborhoods they've had in a shorter period of time.

[kidshuffle]

The whole point of life is to laugh at the peasants below you.

And I'm going to laugh at the peasants who don't have a Burberry tracksuit!

[magma]

Interesting though... if "Projects" was used in the same way in America, it'd be fairly obvious racism. Lucky we've got so many poor, urban whites so we don't fuck about and accidentally accuse ourselves of the same thing.

Err, I don't know if I'd go that far, but I get your point. I think the US is different though, because of how many waves of racial migration/mixing in neighborhoods they've had in a shorter period of time.

They seem to use "Trailer Trash" instead of Chav because their poorest white communities are on the edges of cities rather than in the centre - but it's no different really. Our poorest communities tend to be mixed-race and urban, but for some reason the "Chav" is a white stereotype... he's the white that got "corrupted" by urban black culture. The wigger. It's racism transposed onto a different target, but the thought process is pretty much the same - they're lower than me, therefore they're less intelligent and I can impose my will upon them or kick them when I'm feeling bad about myself - its effects might not be as instantly damaging as slavery or denying people the vote, but it certainly doesn't make for a happy society.

The "wigger" stereotype is as much part of the hangover from institutional racism as anything else and it's got nastier roots than people might first assume - it implies that it's ok for blacks to dress/act a certain way, but it's not ok for whites... this can only be because blacks are a lower form of human than whites... they have no choice about being unrefined, unintelligent and violent, but the whites do - so whilst hailing successful urban blacks as if patting a well-behaved child on the head, we castigate whites for the same style of behaviour. Jay-Z and Lil' Wayne are cultural heroes (didn't they do WELL, it's not their fault they carry guns and dealt drugs!), but Skinnyman is chavscum from a sink estate.

The double-standard is a window on the institutional racism we've swept under the carpet for decades.

[Laszlo]

^Over thought.

[magma]

^Over thought.

You're right, we shouldn't think about this.. we should ignore it until the next riot. Thinking is for losers.