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WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by kingnaya » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:19 am

http://soundcloud.com/5kinandbone5/make-u-understand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeEw23MGMXE


the basses on here are still warm but sound flanjed or something. i dont know. can someone help me please.

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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by render » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:35 am

Sounds like they have the same ADSR envelope as some real string instruments, but it's nothing special, just FX. First song Delay and/or arpeggio with constantly changed filter values.

Second song its just the filter values with very short reverb

Play with lowpass filters and u'll get there, make short decay zero sustain and play with the release, you should get there. I would play with 1-2 oscillators for the start, saw and square.
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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by kingnaya » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:45 am

render. thanx alot for your help. can u listen too my tune... http://soundcloud.com/djnaya/me-you ... i just wanted you too know i already know about synthesis in that way. the question i askd was wrong.. too me it sounds obviously like just a wobble with a bit of release but its the tone of the bass im trying too achieve.. is like low passd with quite a bit of resonance but its sounds dark and shit not just watery and wobbly.

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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by kingnaya » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:47 am

oops your correct about the delay thing. my bad.

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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by nowaysj » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:56 am

Render, are you render?
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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by render » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:09 pm

it's only my forum name, just an alias.
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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by kingnaya » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:54 pm

WHATS a filter value??? as in like lowpass bandpass or highpass or something??? i wanna get that weird as fuck sound in my lowpassd warps!!

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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by render » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:02 pm

kingnaya wrote:WHATS a filter value??? as in like lowpass bandpass or highpass or something??? i wanna get that weird as fuck sound in my lowpassd warps!!
Filter cut-off frequency, and resonance.

Resonance will get you weird as fuck sounds, try to find sweet spots with both parameters! Sometimes one filter is not enough, sometimes one oscillator is not enough, experiment!
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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by kingnaya » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:07 pm

ldsvghifulvfvufghdoifughsioefudufghosidfuhn im the master of that!!!! but them sounds aint just from lowpass and resonance im tellin u... PLEASE check ma tune so u know im not a novice shit face!!

http://soundcloud.com/djnaya/lacey

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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by Basic A » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:55 pm

render wrote:it's only my forum name, just an alias.
No he's asking if your THE render, like, the one who posted here, from the days of olde.
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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by ChadDub » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:00 pm

kingnaya wrote:ldsvghifulvfvufghdoifughsioefudufghosidfuhn im the master of that!!!! but them sounds aint just from lowpass and resonance im tellin u... PLEASE check ma tune so u know im not a novice shit face!!

http://soundcloud.com/djnaya/lacey
No dude shut up.

Also, that soundcloud track you linked in the OP has NO BASS.

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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by render » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:18 pm

Basic A wrote:
render wrote:it's only my forum name, just an alias.
No he's asking if your THE render, like, the one who posted here, from the days of olde.
I didn't have a previous account on this forum, if the post is older than my join date than I'm not that guy that he thinks I am, nor I'm taking credit for anything "THE render" did in the past/present/future.

My artist name is not render, this is just a forum alias.
kingnaya wrote:WHATS a filter value??? as in like lowpass bandpass or highpass or something??? i wanna get that weird as fuck sound in my lowpassd warps!!
render wrote:"...Play with lowpass filters and u'll get there..."
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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by nowaysj » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:56 pm

Kingnaya threads are my second favorite on dsf. Always interesting questions about interesting sounds/music, followed inexplicably by animosity and jokes. Classics always.

First track's bass is very different than second track's bass. Second track's bass is less unique, imo.

First track sounds to me like two oscs into one or more fairly resonant filters. Honestly, every synth has its own sound when you really get down to the nitty gritty, so like to REALLY nail that sound... you'd probably need to use their actual synth. I know that is no help. :)

But, I'd just get going with a traditional bassline synth sound on a few different synths, and then just start fucking with excess resonance/odd waveforms. Maybe the resonance is keymapped, or automated, or sampled cause the resonant peak stays with the note rather than fading in and out as the various note/pitches are played.

That delay comes and goes.

There is also another bass playing along/against that bassline bass, not to be underestimated.

Post up your attempts.
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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by skimpi » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:20 am

kingnaya wrote:ldsvghifulvfvufghdoifughsioefudufghosidfuhn im the master of that!!!! but them sounds aint just from lowpass and resonance im tellin u... PLEASE check ma tune so u know im not a novice shit face!!

http://soundcloud.com/djnaya/lacey
Fuck off naya, all the dude is doin is trying to help and you just bein some next prick! If you are so good then why cant you make this sound then looooooll
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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by 5kinAndBone5 » Sun May 13, 2012 7:58 pm

Whoa...had no idea people were that into our sound design. If memory serves correctly I was using NI massive dubstep presets just tweaked subtly. I often take some fucked up horrible brostep type noises and tweak them until they are a bit restrained and it yields the perfect result :)

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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by knobgoblin » Sun May 13, 2012 8:55 pm

I was gonna say, you could do this with FM synthesis fo' shizzy, but an additive sine tone wavetable could get you there as well. It has more to do with the timbral modulation than the filtersweep. the track i listened to didnt sound like it had much if any resonance. or bass...

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Re: WHAT SYNTHESIS IS THIS???

Post by Shum » Sun May 13, 2012 9:38 pm

5kinAndBone5 wrote:Whoa...had no idea people were that into our sound design. If memory serves correctly I was using NI massive dubstep presets just tweaked subtly. I often take some fucked up horrible brostep type noises and tweak them until they are a bit restrained and it yields the perfect result :)

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lol best comment ive read on here in a while.

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