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Re: Sampler

Post by Today » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:11 pm

it has changed things. I'll put it that way
Some things really improved, and others suffered. I hope this makes sense cuz i dunno how familiar you are with its layout as per words like Scene and Group, plus my own vocabulary is a little disjointed.

starting with the bad/non-intuitive :

it's a genuine ball ache to get your arrangement to sync with your DAW , at least at first
Because i always leave one bar of silence at the beginning, starting at bar 2 so that when i track stuff, it doesn't nick off the attack of the first sound's onset.
Sooo, maschine's "scenes" based sequencer needs to have, for example, a 9-bar scene as the first one, rather than an 8 (then the subsequent scenes can be typical bar lengths -- 4, 8, 16)

At first i was trying to default to a one-bar empty scene, but maschine will see any empty scenes as "available" to be used, and start recording to the first "available" scene .. so my empty scene would keep getting moved or recorded to, even when i set it to scene 2 with more bars... the thing is quirky as fuck

Tracking with it sucked at first too, but i got the hang of it. lots of multi outs, so after you write a beat, you just give each sample an output and set them up in the daw, hit record and get em all in one pass.

All scenes slave to the longest scene in the arrangement , for example -- if you layered a 2 bar scene with a 4 bar, the 2bar scene would play through twice before moving on. this can't be changed, you have to make it a 4bar scene with the second half empty if you want it to stop playing
personally i would have preferred if the shorter scenes that end first were silent until the longest scene finished.


good changes:

sped up my writing with drum beats, cuz it feels more like a drum kit kinda mpc thing which is nice (i'm a drummer) the shift functions on all the pads are nice -- things like quantize, quantize 50% (this is a great quick-to-use feature to retain your groove's feel but tighten it up a bit) (sometimes i tap it twice for a 75% quant ;-) )

Split function --> copies the loop you've written to a new empty scene, which you can then edit freely to create a variation on the first loop

I like the sample browser and many of the included sounds

Internal resample feature is really fuckin cool ... You can throw maschine effects (or your own plugins as well) and fine tune a couple of samples for layering, and then bang -- record them straight onto a new pad. New sound. (note -- i haven't figured out how to rename, save, and move those sounds i resample in Maschine. They come up with a weird cryptic filename like la3mb8f87h4r3a63a67. I would have to actually track it's output and save that sound from within my daw.... ehhh kinda sucks but still a great feature overall)

The sequencer Makes arranging based on loop/variation really intuitive

The sample editor is great for looping, cropping, otherwise altering a sample . for this reason i love this sampler for tossing resampled melodic content in. Like when i build orchestral hits, stabs, and sometimes melody loops, pads, etc. I love to just toss them into maschine to sequence them. keeps more sequencing on one screen, too, so i can just line up the scenes for each sample group

Recording automation is a breeze but is sometimes done by accident -- its basically done by turning any knob (just about every single param is automatable), but during playback and on the outer rim of the knob. automation is not as easy to edit after recording it, but its not so bad.

Filters are pretty good. Overall architecture of signal routing is good.


if i think of any other noteworthy stuff, i'll drop by or pm u. I use the shit out of this thing, i'll tell u that
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Re: Sampler

Post by nnny » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:35 pm

Thank's for such an in-depth response man. I'm seriously considering picking one up now, but I'll save for the Maschine, don't want the mikro!

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Re: Sampler

Post by Today » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:39 pm

np. I would've gotten micro if it was released when i bought mine. The only benefit of the full guy i would suggest, is if you wanna use it live. which has interesting possibilities... i haven't gone there, i don't have a laptop : /
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Re: Sampler

Post by Discern » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:03 pm

Canonmusic wrote:@discern You like the ableton simpler?
after watching these http://nickstutorials.com/products/samp ... eton-live/

yes indeed I do

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Re: Sampler

Post by Sine69 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:38 pm

Simpler. I can't afford the Suite version of Live :6:

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Re: Sampler

Post by prism » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:40 pm

nowaysj wrote:ha, cheers to you, got an sx.
:W: I'm thinking of buying a few instructional dvd's, how quick have you got the hang of the sx man?

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Re: Sampler

Post by nowaysj » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:10 am

It's not hard at all man. Just read the manual. It is super short. It is not a very powerful sampler with a lot of features. It is dead simple. That is it's magic. Just read the manual and start trying to make beats with it. You'll have to refer to the manual a couple of times, and then you'll be set to go. Honestly.
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