How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

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How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by Lefumusic » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:28 am

I need help recreating this sound, it's from the song "Mr. Brown" by "Koan Sound". I use Ableton and mostly use massive, but if you know any way of creating this, with external vst's or in reason, that would be really helpfull.

It's the main wobble, right after the vibrato synth hits in the drop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqLN8XKkONA

And by the way, does anyone know how to make the video to show in the forum post, and not just a link (im new to forums).

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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by ephyks » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:35 am

One of the reasons I respect and love Koan sound so much is because their sound design is hard to recreate. Honestly, I have no idea. Usually i'm quick to identify sound design but they always leave me stumped.

But I can help with the video html shit. Go to full editor when you are making a post and on the tabs around all the editing tools, there is a video embedder. Click it and it will paste down the html code. Place your link in between the two codes.
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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by Brisance » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:46 am

sounds like some complex FM bizness freq split and widened.

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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by ehbes » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:19 am

Sounds a bit like subtractor fm with some digital distortion from the scream 4 and white noise over top....purely speculation
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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by overture » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:45 pm

Definatly sounds re-sampled to me, with alot of chorus/flanger? That seems like it would be a hard sound to replicate, hope someone can help you out but i honestly have no idea. Definatly take re sampling into consideration though because that probably adds alot to the sound.
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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by Eat Bass » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:57 pm

its a nice sound but honestly i think it sounds a bit weird. its one of those sounds where it would be hard to make it sound good if your not koan yanno what i mean/

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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by cmgoodman1226 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:00 pm

I can't tell you anything other than they use Reason. But their sound design is top notch. More likely than not, if they don't come on here and tell, nobody will know.

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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by bassinine » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:07 pm

if you're talking about that datsiky sounding wobble, that doesn't sound too hard. have your filter open up for each note (play with the settings), just like any other bass noise. have a little bit of reverb early in the chain. chorus with high depth, phaser with high depth. duplicate this layer, and put a short delay on the copy 8-20ms.

it's mainly the filter opening up, a small amount of reverb, and the short delay which phases the signal.

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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by Earjax » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:15 pm

You could get close to it with a datsik wobble and a lot of chorus
my best datsik synth wob was on the first tune in my sig, I could give you the ksd for it and then all you need to do is EQ it heavily, chorus it, and distort/resample. You want?
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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by chaotix » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:12 pm

Earjax wrote:You could get close to it with a datsik wobble and a lot of chorus
my best datsik synth wob was on the first tune in my sig, I could give you the ksd for it and then all you need to do is EQ it heavily, chorus it, and distort/resample. You want?
I wouldn't mind it lol

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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by Lefumusic » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:42 am

Earjax wrote:You could get close to it with a datsik wobble and a lot of chorus
my best datsik synth wob was on the first tune in my sig, I could give you the ksd for it and then all you need to do is EQ it heavily, chorus it, and distort/resample. You want?
Yeah, would love that KSD :)

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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by Lefumusic » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:46 am

And thanks for all the answers guys, really appriciate it! Really digging their sound, I made something in the style of Koan Sound if you wanna check it out. Just missed the wobble ;)


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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by e-motion » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:50 am

bassinine wrote:if you're talking about that datsiky sounding wobble, that doesn't sound too hard. have your filter open up for each note (play with the settings), just like any other bass noise. have a little bit of reverb early in the chain. chorus with high depth, phaser with high depth. duplicate this layer, and put a short delay on the copy 8-20ms.

it's mainly the filter opening up, a small amount of reverb, and the short delay which phases the signal.
^ I agree with this, it's either a very short reverb or a gated one. I can also hear phasing but don't know the exact technique (slow phaser, chorus...).

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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by ephyks » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:06 am

Lefumusic wrote:And thanks for all the answers guys, really appriciate it! Really digging their sound, I made something in the style of Koan Sound if you wanna check it out. Just missed the wobble ;)

DAYUM. Nice one!
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Re: How do I make this wobble? (Koan Sound)

Post by LordOmega » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:30 pm

To my understanding its a pretty basic wobble but with some chorus and a flanger. Also if you listen closely it has a slight vowely effect. Now as far as I know KOAN Sound use reason, but that still doenst mean we cant recreate some epic KOAN shit. I've had a go at recreating it in massive the patch is down below for you to download.
http://www.mediafire.com/?c3ge00eyedovd8j

It's in .ksd format so it should be compatible with any version of Massive.

Hope that helped! :4:
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