Surely you've gotta take into consideration your research sources.gwa wrote:laugh all you want.
i take it you guys have researched it?
Satanic Occult Symbols in Washington
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yes, do you know where i got my info from?garethom wrote:Surely you've gotta take into consideration your research sources.gwa wrote:laugh all you want.
i take it you guys have researched it?
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What kind of a shitty phone does that?gwa wrote:just spent 15 mins writing a response only for my manger to come ask me something. screen lock turned on and the response is gone
it must be a safe raver thing





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No, but neither does anyone else, that's why I mentioned it.gwa wrote:yes, do you know where i got my info from?garethom wrote:Surely you've gotta take into consideration your research sources.gwa wrote:laugh all you want.
i take it you guys have researched it?
You can't just come in with "I HAVE DONE RESEARCH" and expect everyone to bow at your feet.
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TL;DR of what i was gonna saygwa wrote:just spent 15 mins writing a response only for my manger to come ask me something. screen lock turned on and the response is gone
you don't pay a designer millions of pounds to create something without wanting to know why they've created it. the client tells the designer what they want and has more say than the designer.
now ask yoursekf who is the client for these buildings?
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garethom wrote:No, but neither does anyone else, that's why I mentioned it.gwa wrote:yes, do you know where i got my info from?garethom wrote:Surely you've gotta take into consideration your research sources.gwa wrote:laugh all you want.
i take it you guys have researched it?
You can't just come in with "I HAVE DONE RESEARCH" and expect everyone to bow at your feet.
see one of my first few posts in this thread.
lloyd is just as aware as me or anyone who is interested in such subject. he knows where to look if he wants to find out
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What proof do you have that masons worship satan and buildings are homage to that fact?
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yeh, sorry, but I do find it kind of ridiculous, as an idea.gwa wrote:your post is a bit of a piss take, lloyd. you could of just said 'no i haven't' instead of trying to ridicule the idea
I haven't researched that particular subject but I read a lot about the over-arching theories that encompass a lot of what you've raised, more as a social phenomenon that anything to actually worry about.
I see lots of evidence that people are capable of creating mythologies that tie neatly to coincidences and patterns around us (some occuring in systems created by humans, others occuring naturally), I see almost no evidence that these stories are true.
In 300 years I could trawl through ancient documents from our time and find patterns that aren't immediatley explainable (that stupid bubble dot that teenage girls put above the letter i, for example). The more I find, the more links I can make to irrelevant things, especially if I don't ful;ly undertsand the motive of the person who wrote it. I can start to create a story (it represents a halo, or some other nonsense) and before you know it, a simple recurring trend/symbol means something totally different, probably something that relates to my life and time.
These phenomenon tell us a lot about who we are now, probably more than they tell us about the people that made them, hence the ongoing mystery and the constant need for an answer.
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for once i agree with gwa
i dunno what is evidence? what is research?
the holy blood and the holy grail is both and worth a read
maybe now you could argue people are referencing masonic shit in pop culture but why would people have referenced it hundreds of years ago?
then it was taken more seriously and feared a lot more
tbh i dont even buy the reference thing...why would people want to reference it? really? just to fuck with a few people? to what end?
thats more ridiculous to me than it being true

i dunno what is evidence? what is research?
the holy blood and the holy grail is both and worth a read
maybe now you could argue people are referencing masonic shit in pop culture but why would people have referenced it hundreds of years ago?
then it was taken more seriously and feared a lot more
tbh i dont even buy the reference thing...why would people want to reference it? really? just to fuck with a few people? to what end?
thats more ridiculous to me than it being true
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Re: Satanic Occult Symbols in Washington
There has been some stupid conspiracy theories etc on this forum but this has got to be up there.
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There are lots of reasons people reference other people:
1) They truly believe in the works of these other people.
2) They want to be associated with the works of these other people.
3) They are copying the works of these other people.
4) They want the works of other people to give their works legitimacy or credibility.
5) They've been instructed to reference other people.
6) They are reinterpreting the works of other people.
7) They have misunderstood the works of other people.
It could also just be coincidence.
Or a confluence of aesthetics/reasonings/developments.
1) They truly believe in the works of these other people.
2) They want to be associated with the works of these other people.
3) They are copying the works of these other people.
4) They want the works of other people to give their works legitimacy or credibility.
5) They've been instructed to reference other people.
6) They are reinterpreting the works of other people.
7) They have misunderstood the works of other people.
It could also just be coincidence.
Or a confluence of aesthetics/reasonings/developments.
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Re: Satanic Occult Symbols in Washington
gwa wrote:TL;DR of what i was gonna saygwa wrote:just spent 15 mins writing a response only for my manger to come ask me something. screen lock turned on and the response is gone
you don't pay a designer millions of pounds to create something without wanting to know why they've created it. the client tells the designer what they want and has more say than the designer.
now ask yoursekf who is the client for these buildings?




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This.kay wrote:There are lots of reasons people reference other people:
1) They truly believe in the works of these other people.
2) They want to be associated with the works of these other people.
3) They are copying the works of these other people.
4) They want the works of other people to give their works legitimacy or credibility.
5) They've been instructed to reference other people.
6) They are reinterpreting the works of other people.
7) They have misunderstood the works of other people.
It could also just be coincidence.
Or a confluence of aesthetics/reasonings/developments.
But, i would love to read on this gwa, so if you could link me a few of the sites you're talking about when you get home from work, or whatever, I'd appreciate it.
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Pistonsbeneath wrote:for once i agree with gwa![]()
i dunno what is evidence? what is research? what are facts? what is logic? who am I?
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tahts nto waht i siad uve missqoutde mee
its amazing the fear people have though of freemasonry/occult to the point where they go the extra mile to shoot down anyone
its not really a conspiracy theory is it johnboy given this stuff is there and it definitely has meaning the only conclusion left to be drawn is why
its amazing the fear people have though of freemasonry/occult to the point where they go the extra mile to shoot down anyone
its not really a conspiracy theory is it johnboy given this stuff is there and it definitely has meaning the only conclusion left to be drawn is why
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Re: Satanic Occult Symbols in Washington
I put this up as a joke before having my lunch and accidentally started a serious debateJBoy wrote:There has been some stupid conspiracy theories etc on this forum but this has got to be up there.

That's why I love the SNH though!
Fact: my old university rented out a Masonic hall to host exams... it was kind of strange when the Masons turned up to have meetings just as we were leaving! I thought I might be able to tap in whatever mystical power was going about the place to help with my exams but I don't think it worked very well

On topic: I think the site I quoted from is just deliberately trying to misrepresent the features of Washington's construction as Masonic and therefore Satanic (even though the Masons aren't satanic, it's been a feature of successive Christian figures to paint everything that isn't Christian as 'Satanic').
Actually, geometry is actually historically linked to Christianity due to its shared heritage with Judaism which utilised mathematical principles as a form of 'magic'. Synagogues are also often hexagons and the "Star of David" is a hexagram, also often used by Rastafarians and the Judaism-influenced Church of Ethiopia as the religions are based on a form of Judaism inherited from ancient Jewish bloodlines.
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My grandpa on my dads side of the family is a Free Mason and my grandpa on my mom's side of the family thinks the Free Masons are fucking lunatics looking to establish NWO.
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Is it fear though, or just not thinking there's something there?Pistonsbeneath wrote: its amazing the fear people have though of freemasonry/occult to the point where they go the extra mile to shoot down anyone

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I dont fear the occult or the masons. Anyway i'll bow out of this thread before i get bombarded with essays and copy and paste wiki articles.
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