producing at 280 bpm??

Volatile Psycle · Post by **Volatile Psycle** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:12 pm

Killamike49 wrote:
Volatile Psycle wrote:Can see why people would do it because by setting your DAW up at 280bpm you can essentially get 1/128th notes, which I think some daws can't do at 140bpm (1/64 max)
Or you could just turn the snap off.

Yes smarty pants but if someone wants starts a track at 240 then they are doing so for tight fine tuned edits which without the grid on is a little hard

Killamike49 · Post by **Killamike49** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:19 pm

I disagree. It's pretty easy for me to see where the main beats fall still on FL's piano roll anyway, can't speak for other DAWs. I don't see how turning snap off would matter when it comes to tempo. I don't see how allowing yourself to place notes or change parameters anywhere on the grid would make it harder to make more presice edits.
And if it's that big of a deal, turn snap on when you need, then remove it.

Volatile Psycle · Post by **Volatile Psycle** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:40 pm

Killamike49 wrote:I disagree. It's pretty easy for me to see where the main beats fall still on FL's piano roll anyway, can't speak for other DAWs. I don't see how turning snap off would matter when it comes to tempo. I don't see how allowing yourself to place notes or change parameters anywhere on the grid would make it harder to make more presice edits.
And if it's that big of a deal, turn snap on when you need, then remove it.

So when you turn snap off you know that you've placed the hits at exactly 1/128th without quantising?

ffs.....give it up and stop being so pedantic

Read my first post again "I CAN SEE PEOPLE WOULD......." I dont work this way and I wasn't making a bold statement. I was mearly saying that i could understand if and or why people would want to work this way.

Today · Post by **Today** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:55 pm

would turn halfstep into wholestep
thats too wholesome for my liking

coogcoo · Post by **coogcoo** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:56 pm

legend4ry wrote:If you're building your beats on the step sequencer in FL, then using 280bpm is justified, same with if you use a tracker (like Renoise) 280 can give you better resolutions for composition.

Its not really a huge deal - just a workflow technique.

this is what i meant. i dont like using the piano roll for drums if i dont have a midi keyboard to bang them out with

coogcoo · Post by **coogcoo** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:57 pm

btw the first track in my sig was produced using this technique and it gives you the ability to make some really crazy rhythms in fl's step sequencer

Lichee · Post by **Lichee** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:05 pm

extremesociety · Post by **extremesociety** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:56 pm

6 in one, half-a dozen in the other. It will give you better resolution.

Undrig · Post by **Undrig** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:09 pm

No point. If you need a finer grid res than 64th notes, are you really going to use 128? Might as well just use a granular synth. As no midi will respond tightly quantized at 16th 128th notes. Just seems silly with no benefit.

Today · Post by **Today** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:44 pm

extremesociety wrote:6 in one, half-a dozen in the other. It will give you better resolution.

higher doesn't ALWAYS mean better ;]

AxeD · Post by **AxeD** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:53 pm

Today wrote:
extremesociety wrote:6 in one, half-a dozen in the other. It will give you better resolution.
higher doesn't ALWAYS mean better ;]

Some people produce when they are high and it usually sounds better. Dunno whether getting
even higher will also mean you'll sound even better though.

extremesociety · Post by **extremesociety** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:03 pm

AxeD wrote:
Today wrote:
extremesociety wrote:6 in one, half-a dozen in the other. It will give you better resolution.
higher doesn't ALWAYS mean better ;]
Some people produce when they are high and it usually sounds better. Dunno whether getting
even higher will also mean you'll sound even better though.

True, haha.

Dosen't mean better, just means irrelevant.

Muncey · Post by **Muncey** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:54 am

Nevalo wrote:LOL

why dont you just produce at 700bpm?

Ha, someone do this. Record it.

paravrais · Post by **paravrais** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:08 pm

-.-

This thread is full of great ideas.

/obvious sarcasm.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:11 pm

Muncey wrote:
Nevalo wrote:LOL

why dont you just produce at 700bpm?
Ha, someone do this. Record it.

God not another sub genre please...

Muncey · Post by **Muncey** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:16 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:
Muncey wrote:
Nevalo wrote:LOL

why dont you just produce at 700bpm?
Ha, someone do this. Record it.
God not another sub genre please...

Speedstep!

I hope nobody takes this seriously.

Lichee · Post by **Lichee** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:17 pm

speedstep is the one

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:19 pm

forget speedstep, more like wastethread

Killamike49 · Post by **Killamike49** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:11 pm

Volatile Psycle wrote:
Killamike49 wrote:I disagree. It's pretty easy for me to see where the main beats fall still on FL's piano roll anyway, can't speak for other DAWs. I don't see how turning snap off would matter when it comes to tempo. I don't see how allowing yourself to place notes or change parameters anywhere on the grid would make it harder to make more presice edits.
And if it's that big of a deal, turn snap on when you need, then remove it.
So when you turn snap off you know that you've placed the hits at exactly 1/128th without quantising?

ffs.....give it up and stop being so pedantic

Read my first post again "I CAN SEE PEOPLE WOULD......." I dont work this way and I wasn't making a bold statement. I was mearly saying that i could understand if and or why people would want to work this way.

I guess. I dunno why you wouldn't just open up the piano roll if you wanted finer resolution instead of doubling their tempo, but if people can comfortably make music like this, whatever. I was just trying to get the point across that you can just fucking turn the snap off if you want finer resolution, and it's really not too hard to put it in the right place without it being noticeably off beat. Didn't mean to upset you with a tip, bro.

Volatile Psycle · Post by **Volatile Psycle** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:22 pm

Killamike49 wrote: Didn't mean to upset you with a tip, bro.

Was more of "Its not the way i'd do it so therfore its not the best way" than a tip, but hey i'm bored of arguing a mute point

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