Chart showing where formants are located

SoundNuisance · Post by **SoundNuisance** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:41 am

I was doing some research on a variety of sites. Wikipedia has a chart that shows where the formants for each vowel is located. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formants

I just wanted to share. Also, can anyone confirm? Is it correct or is it just pure nonsense?

mthrfnk · Post by **mthrfnk** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:47 am

Personally I like this chart:

http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/csound/ ... able3.html

SoundNuisance · Post by **SoundNuisance** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:49 am

...............That is amazing. Thank you for that!

mthrfnk · Post by **mthrfnk** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:53 am

SoundNuisance wrote:...............That is amazing. Thank you for that!

Also, btw your SoundCloud doesn't work.

SoundNuisance · Post by **SoundNuisance** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:10 am

Just fixed it

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:19 am

What would the bandwidth numbers correlate into midi?

JTMMusicuk · Post by **JTMMusicuk** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:26 am

im right here...

JTMMusicuk · Post by **JTMMusicuk** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:28 am

ehbrums1 wrote:What would the bandwidth numbers correlate into midi?

its not to do with the notes you play its the notches you create in the eq which give it the vowel sound, just like how you can talk at different pitches

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:04 am

JTMMusicuk wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:What would the bandwidth numbers correlate into midi?
its not to do with the notes you play its the notches you create in the eq which give it the vowel sound, just like how you can talk at different pitches

I know I'm talking about how the midi values only go up to 127 and done of those Q values are above that

JTMMusicuk · Post by **JTMMusicuk** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:13 am

IM not sure i understand you, the formant table is too do with the frequency of the notch, the bandwidth and the amount the notch is boosting. BTW i can only see the second link (not the wiki one) as i am at work so if i am missing the point thats why

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:20 am

JTMMusicuk wrote:IM not sure i understand you, the formant table is too do with the frequency of the notch, the bandwidth and the amount the notch is boosting. BTW i can only see the second link (not the wiki one) as i am at work so if i am missing the point thats why

Ok what I'm saying is there anyway to see the ratio from the bandwidth value to the value in your daw which typically goes only to 127

JTMMusicuk · Post by **JTMMusicuk** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:30 am

ehbrums1 wrote:
JTMMusicuk wrote:IM not sure i understand you, the formant table is too do with the frequency of the notch, the bandwidth and the amount the notch is boosting. BTW i can only see the second link (not the wiki one) as i am at work so if i am missing the point thats why
Ok what I'm saying is there anyway to see the ratio from the bandwidth value to the value in your daw which typically goes only to 127

ah ok i get you, it will depend on what EQ your using to make the notch tbh, all the notches are quite tight but aslong as your starting point is the frequency given then it should be fine just use your ear too pick out how tight it has to be

e-motion · Post by **e-motion** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:13 pm

@ehbrums your Q is 1-127? Strange, It's usually a decimal number. If you find one with decimal numbers then do this: Q = (sqrt(2^bandwidth))/((2^bandwidth) − 1)

Source: http://www.astralsound.com/parametric_eq.htm

Killamike49 · Post by **Killamike49** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:30 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:
JTMMusicuk wrote:IM not sure i understand you, the formant table is too do with the frequency of the notch, the bandwidth and the amount the notch is boosting. BTW i can only see the second link (not the wiki one) as i am at work so if i am missing the point thats why
Ok what I'm saying is there anyway to see the ratio from the bandwidth value to the value in your daw which typically goes only to 127

It's not what you set your q to, it's the range that that formant is in that you have to sweep. I think. I couldn't read the first wiki article either (school), but i think you're supposed to make a notch, and boost it by the decibals listed. Then sweep it up how ever many bw. If that doesn't work sweep it down. If I'm chatting shit, someone let me know.

JTMMusicuk · Post by **JTMMusicuk** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:32 pm

Killamike49 wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:
JTMMusicuk wrote:IM not sure i understand you, the formant table is too do with the frequency of the notch, the bandwidth and the amount the notch is boosting. BTW i can only see the second link (not the wiki one) as i am at work so if i am missing the point thats why
Ok what I'm saying is there anyway to see the ratio from the bandwidth value to the value in your daw which typically goes only to 127
It's not what you set your q to, it's the range that that formant is in that you have to sweep. I think. I couldn't read the first wiki article either (school), but i think you're supposed to make a notch, and boost it by the decibals listed. Then sweep it up how ever many bw. If that doesn't work sweep it down. If I'm chatting shit, someone let me know.

nah no sweeping, you sweep for growls

collective · Post by **collective** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:40 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:
JTMMusicuk wrote:IM not sure i understand you, the formant table is too do with the frequency of the notch, the bandwidth and the amount the notch is boosting. BTW i can only see the second link (not the wiki one) as i am at work so if i am missing the point thats why
Ok what I'm saying is there anyway to see the ratio from the bandwidth value to the value in your daw which typically goes only to 127

values 1-127 in terms of midi only has to do with that fact there are 127 steps/points of resolution when applied to whatever midi is controlling. If its a fader the numbers it corresponds to could be any amounts 0-XXXXXXXX or,in the case of Q on a EQ, 0-1. Thats whatever you want to program it to be.

Killamike49 · Post by **Killamike49** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:44 pm

JTMMusicuk wrote:
Killamike49 wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:
JTMMusicuk wrote:IM not sure i understand you, the formant table is too do with the frequency of the notch, the bandwidth and the amount the notch is boosting. BTW i can only see the second link (not the wiki one) as i am at work so if i am missing the point thats why
Ok what I'm saying is there anyway to see the ratio from the bandwidth value to the value in your daw which typically goes only to 127
It's not what you set your q to, it's the range that that formant is in that you have to sweep. I think. I couldn't read the first wiki article either (school), but i think you're supposed to make a notch, and boost it by the decibals listed. Then sweep it up how ever many bw. If that doesn't work sweep it down. If I'm chatting shit, someone let me know.
nah no sweeping, you sweep for growls

So you automate the resonance here and it does... what? Make it sound like a vowel? Or do you not automate anything?

JTMMusicuk · Post by **JTMMusicuk** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:05 pm

Killamike49 wrote:
JTMMusicuk wrote:
Killamike49 wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:
JTMMusicuk wrote:IM not sure i understand you, the formant table is too do with the frequency of the notch, the bandwidth and the amount the notch is boosting. BTW i can only see the second link (not the wiki one) as i am at work so if i am missing the point thats why
Ok what I'm saying is there anyway to see the ratio from the bandwidth value to the value in your daw which typically goes only to 127
It's not what you set your q to, it's the range that that formant is in that you have to sweep. I think. I couldn't read the first wiki article either (school), but i think you're supposed to make a notch, and boost it by the decibals listed. Then sweep it up how ever many bw. If that doesn't work sweep it down. If I'm chatting shit, someone let me know.
nah no sweeping, you sweep for growls
So you automate the resonance here and it does... what? Make it sound like a vowel? Or do you not automate anything?

imagine your throat when your making an oooo sound and an eeeee sound, theres no movement its a constant sound its only when you want to swap between the two that your throat has to move.

Killamike49 · Post by **Killamike49** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:59 pm

derp. Thanks man. That makes more sense.

lowpass · Post by **lowpass** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:50 pm

Good find! and....... bookmarked

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