monosodium glutamate

[d-T-r]

glad i missed it

[dreamizm]

Msg is naturally present in quite alot of foods. Highest in tomatoes, parmesan cheese

No, it's not. As somebody else pointed out, it is a chemical and therefore artifical/not found in nature.

There is a reason why Ital food uses no salt.

[pikeymobile]

msg is artificial, but its just glutamic acid, which is found in fucking EVERYTHING, and its ridiculous to hate msg but eat foods full of it
and its safe, just like aspartame, its yet another overblown thing where modern studies have shown its not bad for you at all
fucking hippies
i bet parson loves msg
saying this shit is unsafe is like me referencing a 1960s US military study saying you can overdose on marijuana, lern 2 science before commenting pls

[kay]

Msg is naturally present in quite alot of foods. Highest in tomatoes, parmesan cheese (wonder why italian food is so popular?) and seaweed called kombu. Kombu is used to make the stock for miso.

Obviously if you go mental and pile it on every meal it's not gonna be good for you, but it is naturally of occurring so in moderation its fine.

Incorrect. The foods you mention are strong in the umami taste due to the presence of glutamates. However, monosodium glutamate does not exist in those foods. It is synthesised from a precursor chemical that is produced naturally.

[crutch]

Msg is naturally present in quite alot of foods. Highest in tomatoes, parmesan cheese (wonder why italian food is so popular?) and seaweed called kombu. Kombu is used to make the stock for miso.

Obviously if you go mental and pile it on every meal it's not gonna be good for you, but it is naturally of occurring so in moderation its fine.

Incorrect. The foods you mention are strong in the umami taste due to the presence of glutamates. However, monosodium glutamate does not exist in those foods. It is synthesised from a precursor chemical that is produced naturally.

True, but the sodium is used as a stabiliser and to make it easily dissolvable, don't think it's gonna make a huge difference.

[jameshk]

I dont think consuming loads of chemicals is good for our bodies or brains, I'd steer clear if possible.

[Electric_Head]

I dont think consuming loads of chemicals is good for our bodies or brains, I'd steer clear if possible.

That`s it in the end.
Either you don`t mind bungging your body full of crap or you try your best to limit it.
Most of us try at the lest to limit our intake.
I tend to not buy anything with msg.

[JBoy]

Lots of people on this board take drugs reguarly and they're worried about a bit of msg lol.

[jameshk]

Responsible drug use on occasion is better than consuming relatively untested chemicals daily.

[JBoy]

Im pretty certain that eating chinese food everyday is less harmful than taking drugs occasionally, could be wrong though.

[pikeymobile]

yeah eating mdma someone made in a shed responsibly is definitely far more safe than a bit of msg in your noodles

[jameshk]

It actually might be if its in moderation.

[arktrix45hz]

I dont think consuming loads of chemicals is good for our bodies or brains, I'd steer clear if possible.

Didn't you used to smash K on the regulars?

[jameshk]

Yeah, so I probably need to be extra careful

[kay]

Msg is naturally present in quite alot of foods. Highest in tomatoes, parmesan cheese (wonder why italian food is so popular?) and seaweed called kombu. Kombu is used to make the stock for miso.

Obviously if you go mental and pile it on every meal it's not gonna be good for you, but it is naturally of occurring so in moderation its fine.

Incorrect. The foods you mention are strong in the umami taste due to the presence of glutamates. However, monosodium glutamate does not exist in those foods. It is synthesised from a precursor chemical that is produced naturally.

True, but the sodium is used as a stabiliser and to make it easily dissolvable, don't think it's gonna make a huge difference.

Just as a note, I'm neither for nor against MSG. Just wanted to point out that it isn't naturally occuring.

Moderation in all substance usage. Doesn't just apply to synthetic compounds, applies also to everything else we eat, drink and inhale.

[test_recordings]

Im pretty certain that eating chinese food everyday is less harmful than taking drugs occasionally, could be wrong though.

Ever seen the documentary "Supersize Me"? Drugs are (for most of the available types) nowhere near as bad as fast food... They can actually be good for you in their individual ways (though of course anything can be a poison as much as an antidote).

I do make use of natural glutamate from the 'konbu' kelp species to make soup stock though MSG is a bit too far for me for various reasons pertaining to its toxicity and it just simply being not needed.

[slothrop]

Msg is naturally present in quite alot of foods. Highest in tomatoes, parmesan cheese (wonder why italian food is so popular?) and seaweed called kombu. Kombu is used to make the stock for miso.

Obviously if you go mental and pile it on every meal it's not gonna be good for you, but it is naturally of occurring so in moderation its fine.

Incorrect. The foods you mention are strong in the umami taste due to the presence of glutamates. However, monosodium glutamate does not exist in those foods. It is synthesised from a precursor chemical that is produced naturally.

Hum, not sure. Those foods are high in glutamic acid, and monosodium glutamate = glutamic acid plus sodium ions. So I guess it's not necessarily chemically indistinguishable from tomatoes, but it is chemically indistinguishable from tomatoes with salt on.

I'd imagine that nailing sodium in large quantities isn't great for you (cf salt) hence I wouldn't shovel msg onto everything I ate, but it's not something I'd worry too much about avoiding.

[pikeymobile]

for reference, you put waaaay less msg in your food than you would sea salt

[kay]

Msg is naturally present in quite alot of foods. Highest in tomatoes, parmesan cheese (wonder why italian food is so popular?) and seaweed called kombu. Kombu is used to make the stock for miso.

Obviously if you go mental and pile it on every meal it's not gonna be good for you, but it is naturally of occurring so in moderation its fine.

Incorrect. The foods you mention are strong in the umami taste due to the presence of glutamates. However, monosodium glutamate does not exist in those foods. It is synthesised from a precursor chemical that is produced naturally.

Hum, not sure. Those foods are high in glutamic acid, and monosodium glutamate = glutamic acid plus sodium ions. So I guess it's not necessarily chemically indistinguishable from tomatoes, but it is chemically indistinguishable from tomatoes with salt on.

Well, if we want to really get technical about it, glutamic acid IS different in structure from glutamate. It has 1 fewer hydrogen atoms in the structure, which is chemically different enough for it to have different physical and chemical properties. Those are just simple facts. A is not the same as B, is all I'm saying. Whether it has any effect on human metabolism is another matter that isn't necessarily clear cut, because different people will have different reactions to it.

[NilsFG]

Im pretty certain that eating chinese food everyday is less harmful than taking drugs occasionally, could be wrong though.

Ever seen the documentary "Supersize Me"? Drugs are (for most of the available types) nowhere near as bad as fast food... They can actually be good for you in their individual ways (though of course anything can be a poison as much as an antidote).

Dude, in supersize me, the guy ate nothing but McDonald's for a month; I'm pretty sure your mental/physical condition would go down too when you did nothing but pills/coke for a month; healthy food or not.

Also all the people pointing out MSG is bad; please point me to an actual peer-reviewed paper suggesting that it has bad effects on normal people.

P.S.: To people using the "it is a chemical and not natural therefore it is (probably) bad"-argument in this and/or other threads; please stop saying stupid stuff like that when we're talking about compounds that have been used for decades and have been researched plentiful.