Heavy Dubstep Growl (Video Tutorial)

[blindman182]

It's just a db move to pretty much say I suck right off the bat.

Agreed... :/ but fighting back gets you nowhere on this site.

I know. I'm sorry about before too. I totally fucked up with my typing. x.x I feel like a douche. I hope you understand. x.x I thought you were mocking me that's why I was being a douche. fuck x.x The first comment you made x.x

[Lament Of Ben]

Lol, its okay, apology accepted.... now that all thats said and done... NICE TUTORIAL xD

[blindman182]

Thanks bro. I'mma check out your soundcloud just as an apology I really hope I can gain some respect back x.x

[Lament Of Ben]

xD no no really its alright dude, you have my respect

[deadly_habit]

less is more my friend... less is more...

[joegrizzly]

u guys feelin arite?

[zeta]

How the heck did you get all that conservation shit from a single post?!

Sure the first poster may have been blunt but he had some good points, just learn to roll with it and take in what he's saying.

Even heavy dubstep needs to have good mixdowns and proper production ya know (for heavy dubstep anyway).

And just because someone doesn't like your track doesn't mean you can automatically assume they're a "conservative".

Everyone has different tastes, and that includes different styles of heavy dubstep.

[MikeyOhh]

Thanks man! Been looking for a growl tutorial for ages. Couldnt find one anywhere! Any chance of doing a yoy bass next?!

[blindman182]

Thanks man! Been looking for a growl tutorial for ages. Couldnt find one anywhere! Any chance of doing a yoy bass next?!

Sure dude. So happens that I used a yoi in this track. I'm sure you can find some tutorials here. Do you use Massive or just stock Ableton? You can make a yoi in either

To everyone - I wish I could delete comments, but what's said is said.

[VirtualMark]

Personally, i think its a bit dumb for someone who has only been producing 6 months to come to a production forum and offer a 'tutorial'. Come back when you've been producing for a few years, i might be interested in hearing what you have to say then. Like others have pointed out, you don't even know how to use Ableton properly - i'm a Cubase user but still know about Abletons racks.

There was a thread a few months back about people who can't produce making tutorials. Might be worth a read.

[blindman182]

Personally, i think its a bit dumb for someone who has only been producing 6 months to come to a production forum and offer a 'tutorial'. Come back when you've been producing for a few years, i might be interested in hearing what you have to say then. Like others have pointed out, you don't even know how to use Ableton properly - i'm a Cubase user but still know about Abletons racks.

There was a thread a few months back about people who can't produce making tutorials. Might be worth a read.

You do realize different people prefer to use different techniques don't you? I'm sure you don't produce exactly the same way as ever other Cubase user right? Just because I learned to split frequencies by having 3 different tracks instead of using side chaining inside of an effects rack doesn't mean I suck at producing.

[antman]

So you got an attitude with hircine, AND talked shit about his music because your tutorial sucks and the sound sounds like shit?

Take the criticism as it is. It's a huge part of learning to make music. When someone says they don't like something ask "why" and learn more. Don't become defensive because that way, you'll never learn. You'll always be stuck in the "I think my music is OK" box.

[Sonika]

Okay first of all, you go be a bitch about Hircine, and I don't know if you've heard his tracks but they're a helluva a lot better than yours I can tell you that, Hircine = innovative and high technical production quality, while you = trying to copy skrillex, badly

Then you go on some rant about some conservative bullshit and the march of progress after having read 3 comments, 2 of which were positive (oh yeah, and if you want to talk about it, Skrilly boy and Borewhore and Doctor Pee DO suck dick)

I feel like we should have one of those "THIS IS SPARTA" moments where we kick your Internet personality off the cliff into the abyss. Shut the fuck up

[e-motion]

So the guy made a tutorial and we have 2 pages of people saying his track is shit and his growl is shit. So much useful info on this thread!

I find it an interesting technique.

[lloydy]

Okay first of all, you go be a bitch about Hircine, and I don't know if you've heard his tracks but they're a helluva a lot better than yours I can tell you that, Hircine = innovative and high technical production quality, while you =

I'm a lover not a fighter so i will save your blushes and sensor the last part of that.But in all honesty i agree with sonika and think you should of listened to hircine's tracks before saying they are not good because he is a quality producer.Maybe the way he went about his first comment was a bit rude but the thing with this forum is people do tend to get flamed a bit and not everyone is going to like what your doing.I'm sorry mate but that is just the way of dsf i'm afraid so you either live with some of the bullshit that goes on here and let it go over your head or just add to the argumentative fuckwits that reside here.
In all fairness i skipped through a few mins of your vid just to see if there was anything useful for me but there wasn't for me,it came across more of a vid for the beginner but props all the same for spending the time to help other people.
Oh and welcome to the madness of an internet forum

[VirtualMark]

You do realize different people prefer to use different techniques don't you? I'm sure you don't produce exactly the same way as ever other Cubase user right? Just because I learned to split frequencies by having 3 different tracks instead of using side chaining inside of an effects rack doesn't mean I suck at producing.

Yeah everyone does things differently. That's not why i think you're bad at producing, its because you've only been on it 6 months by your own admission. It takes a lot longer than that to get good.

[Sonika]

Okay first of all, you go be a bitch about Hircine, and I don't know if you've heard his tracks but they're a helluva a lot better than yours I can tell you that, Hircine = innovative and high technical production quality, while you =

I'm a lover not a fighter so i will save your blushes and sensor the last part of that.But in all honesty i agree with sonika and think you should of listened to hircine's tracks before saying they are not good because he is a quality producer.Maybe the way he went about his first comment was a bit rude but the thing with this forum is people do tend to get flamed a bit and not everyone is going to like what your doing.I'm sorry mate but that is just the way of dsf i'm afraid so you either live with some of the bullshit that goes on here and let it go over your head or just add to the argumentative fuckwits that reside here.
In all fairness i skipped through a few mins of your vid just to see if there was anything useful for me but there wasn't for me,it came across more of a vid for the beginner but props all the same for spending the time to help other people.
Oh and welcome to the madness of an internet forum

Yeah I think you went about that a lot better than I did, I may have come down a tad hard

[lloydy]

Okay first of all, you go be a bitch about Hircine, and I don't know if you've heard his tracks but they're a helluva a lot better than yours I can tell you that, Hircine = innovative and high technical production quality, while you =

I'm a lover not a fighter so i will save your blushes and sensor the last part of that.But in all honesty i agree with sonika and think you should of listened to hircine's tracks before saying they are not good because he is a quality producer.Maybe the way he went about his first comment was a bit rude but the thing with this forum is people do tend to get flamed a bit and not everyone is going to like what your doing.I'm sorry mate but that is just the way of dsf i'm afraid so you either live with some of the bullshit that goes on here and let it go over your head or just add to the argumentative fuckwits that reside here.
In all fairness i skipped through a few mins of your vid just to see if there was anything useful for me but there wasn't for me,it came across more of a vid for the beginner but props all the same for spending the time to help other people.
Oh and welcome to the madness of an internet forum

Yeah I think you went about that a lot better than I did, I may have come down a tad hard

Age and experience does that to you mate i'm afraid.

[blindman182]

Ok, whatever. I'm a bad fucking producer I get it. I still do shows and people have mad fun at my shows and come up to me and compliment me so I don't even care. Obviously you guys who are extremely talented at this are going to say I fucking suck, but will listeners who know nothing about music even care? And yes, it is a bit amatuerish of a tutorial, but someone like e-motion, will find some value in it. I'm not saying you have to do what I'm doing, but I think you shouldn't think so linear when it comes to producing. Shoot me for trying to be helpful.

Thanks to all of the 3 or 4 people who actually are being constructive and giving good feed back.

- I did listen to Hircine and he's way better than me. His mixes make me want to shoot myself, but what the fuck? I'm trying to get under his skin. If he wasn't an asshole his first comment I would've totally followed him on his soundcloud because his shit is orgasmic. But come on... Instead of saying "your shit sucks" at least be like "your shit sucks. try doing this instead...". You know what I mean?

[Sonika]

Ok, whatever. I'm a bad fucking producer I get it.

No you don't get it - you're not a BAD producer, because that suggests that you are physically not skilled at producing - you're just an beginner producer, who has just started out, like me

but will listeners who know nothing about music even care?

Yes, they won't be able to put it into words like a producer would say "it's a bad mixdown, those frequencies are clashing/muddy, that sound design is off," but they'll still notice it and just feel put off by the track.

And yes, it is a bit amatuerish of a tutorial, but someone like e-motion, will find some value in it. I'm not saying you have to do what I'm doing, but I think you shouldn't think so linear when it comes to producing. Shoot me for trying to be helpful.

Fair enough.

Thanks to all of the 3 or 4 people who actually are being constructive and giving good feed back.

I don't want to keep arguing, but you would have gotten pretty much all good feedback and no flaming if you hadn't taken the approach that you did. Don't worry, we all mess up, just don't pull a Zomby and be so quick to snap.
I hope you're not put off this forum by your first post, because the production forum is actually a PHENOMENAL resource - seriously, I've learned more in my few months on here than I would anywhere else, I have improved as a producer so much and I've gotten so much inspiration from the really talented producers who come on here and give their advice. Seriously, there are plenty of really successful and amazing producers who come on here all the time to help out (legend4ry, basic A, etc etc etc).

As far as my advice goes, the frequency splitting that you're doing is actually setting up 3 different channel strips, but it works a lot better if you just take the original channel strip, send it to 3 different busses, and have each bus have a different EQ which splits it into low, mid, and high. Once you've done that, set the original channel strip to no output.

I did listen to Hircine and he's way better than me. His mixes make me want to shoot myself, but what the fuck? I'm trying to get under his skin. If he wasn't an asshole his first comment I would've totally followed him on his soundcloud because his shit is orgasmic. But come on... Instead of saying "your shit sucks" at least be like "your shit sucks. try doing this instead...". You know what I mean?

I totally know what you mean, but you should get used to it. Internet forums aren't like real life, and especially on dubstepforum, people like to poke fun at everyone and everything, sometimes pretty harshly. It takes a little getting used to, but once you get used to it it's actually really funny, some members can be hilarious.
This all pertains to the production forum, General Discussion is a WHOLE different ballpark.

Seriously though, the production forum is awesome and you will learn a TON, plus when you're having trouble people will help you out.
Welcome to the forum!