Have your track mastered for only £10 can't argue with that

[Lichee]

I can't really tell fully but it sounds like the unmastered version was just a bit flat and not mixed down very well (no offence) and the mastered version is louder and eq'd. It definitely sounds better, but i'd like to hear another mastering engineers opinion.

[lloydy]

I was not going to comment until I saw this and frankly KRK "mastering" man got up my nose a bit :

"People charging £30 a master are just robbing people who want to hear what their tracks sounds like mastered."

Firstly the word "just" demonstrates a blatant attitude problem IMO. "Just" mastering someones track is about making final decisions on someones music before it is released in a highly optimized environment with a highly skilled audio engineer, there is no "just" about it. Secondly, your room is a bedroom I can see the wardrobe door knobs, so please don't masquerade as a professional mastering studio. You offer every service under the sun unlike a dedicated mastering studio who earns a living doing one thing, day in day out, mastering.You have no mastering specific equipment and work on KRK's in an untreated room, no better than your clients. If people are happy with your results at £10.00 that is absolutely fine. But save the accusations of robbing for somewhere where a professional attitude does not count.

What I've said is I'll make him 5 masters all with different eq and compression then he can pick which one works best for his sound.

That could be seen as tweaking a few plug ins x 5 or being indecisive because you are not confident about what you are doing.

Its good to vent,just take a deep breath and let it gooooooooooo ahhhhh does that feel better?
Isn't business all about sticking it to your rivals?
Also not a lot of people on here can afford £20-£30 a track so he is offering a more affordable service,being professional is all good and all but the chap is just drumming up custom.
I think a good thing to do is you master the track too and we can all sit here and see two mastering engineers going head to head gear against gear and all that i'm very interested in seeing this happen.Come on man take the challenge,if you win i will come to you for my mastering i promise.

[PaulAshmore]

I was not going to comment until I saw this and frankly KRK "mastering" man got up my nose a bit :

"People charging £30 a master are just robbing people who want to hear what their tracks sounds like mastered."

Firstly the word "just" demonstrates a blatant attitude problem IMO. "Just" mastering someones track is about making final decisions on someones music before it is released in a highly optimized environment with a highly skilled audio engineer, there is no "just" about it. Secondly, your room is a bedroom I can see the wardrobe door knobs, so please don't masquerade as a professional mastering studio. You offer every service under the sun unlike a dedicated mastering studio who earns a living doing one thing, day in day out, mastering.You have no mastering specific equipment and work on KRK's in an untreated room, no better than your clients. If people are happy with your results at £10.00 that is absolutely fine. But save the accusations of robbing for somewhere where a professional attitude does not count.

What I've said is I'll make him 5 masters all with different eq and compression then he can pick which one works best for his sound.

That could be seen as tweaking a few plug ins x 5 or being indecisive because you are not confident about what you are doing.

Its good to vent,just take a deep breath and let it gooooooooooo ahhhhh does that feel better?
Isn't business all about sticking it to your rivals?
Also not a lot of people on here can afford £20-£30 a track so he is offering a more affordable service,being professional is all good and all but the chap is just drumming up custom.
I think a good thing to do is you master the track too and we can all sit here and see two mastering engineers going head to head gear against gear and all that i'm very interested in seeing this happen.Come on man take the challenge,if you win i will come to you for my mastering i promise.

Loving this one. Great response.

[lloydy]

Don't enjoy the response offer him out for the battle.I guarantee you every one on the board will be interested in this.Come on man getting to pit you equipment and skills against another's should be what it is all about.
If you think you can offer the same service as safeandsound for a smaller fee then you and him should show us all what you can do,he just basically said you lack the equipment and knowledge so he is really laying down the gauntlet.
Someone on the board with mint mixing skills should surrender a track to the battle.
Come on guys you know you want too i can sense it.

[mthrfnk]

Don't enjoy the response offer him out for the battle.I guarantee you every one on the board will be interested in this.Come on man getting to pit you equipment and skills against another's should be what it is all about.
If you think you can offer the same service as safeandsound for a smaller fee then you and him should show us all what you can do,he just basically said you lack the equipment and knowledge so he is really laying down the gauntlet.
Someone on the board with mint mixing skills should surrender a track to the battle.
Come on guys you know you want too i can sense it.

Haha laying out the bait

I'd love to see hear safeandsound's master would compare considering what he's saying, since I have no idea really about mastering hardware and the like.

[lloydy]

Haha laying out the bait

I'd love to see hear safeandsound's master would compare considering what he's saying, since I have no idea really about mastering hardware and the like.

Perfect opportunity to show us all why we should use your service.Safeandsound i hope you take this challenge up because i'm really excited.Also think perfect chance for paul to show us he is a capable me with a very reasonable price.

[blinx]

fight! Fight! FIGHT! lol

[lloydy]

Let's start a poll,how many of us want to see this?I have no idea how to start a poll so please can someone do it for me.I think safeandsound,paul and macc should be on it like a car bonnet.
Any other me's on here wanna get on this,the battle to end all battles.

[PaulAshmore]

I was not going to comment until I saw this and frankly KRK "mastering" man got up my nose a bit :

"People charging £30 a master are just robbing people who want to hear what their tracks sounds like mastered."

Firstly the word "just" demonstrates a blatant attitude problem IMO. "Just" mastering someones track is about making final decisions on someones music before it is released in a highly optimized environment with a highly skilled audio engineer, there is no "just" about it. Secondly, your room is a bedroom I can see the wardrobe door knobs, so please don't masquerade as a professional mastering studio. You offer every service under the sun unlike a dedicated mastering studio who earns a living doing one thing, day in day out, mastering.You have no mastering specific equipment and work on KRK's in an untreated room, no better than your clients. If people are happy with your results at £10.00 that is absolutely fine. But save the accusations of robbing for somewhere where a professional attitude does not count.

What I've said is I'll make him 5 masters all with different eq and compression then he can pick which one works best for his sound.

That could be seen as tweaking a few plug ins x 5 or being indecisive because you are not confident about what you are doing.

As I have already said in a previous post I actually prefer Krks for mixing it's a personal opinion I am happy with. On my mastering setup I use Krk Vxt with a pair of Adam a7x's. Why should I change what I'm comfortable with in my mixing setup because someone on a forum thinks its not cool.

I know a few professional mastering engineers who laugh when they are sent masters. I watch them take £30 from the client over the net then all they do is throw it through a stereo distressor and an eq. Throw it out without any care and attention. They then email the track and that's the last the client hears from them. I don't personally like this process. I like to interact with my clients. Help them in any way possible and go the extra mile. I enjoy what I do and have created a full time job out of it. Which is what I always dream of like the majority of artists in this forum.

Also the studio in my picture is from my own personal studio next door to our main studio. I use this for mixing not mastering. I personally like the eq on the Ssl I have in my mynx so I take this through when I want to master. It's not my bedroom lol my missus wouldn't allow me to have a home studio the amount of time I spend mixing. She doesn't see me much as it is.

If we all gave up when the haters hated dubstep wouldn't exist. Don't hate You do what you do I do what I do. But you'll never put me down I'll always give artist cheap affordable mastering using high end gear.

[Immerse]

I can't really tell fully but it sounds like the unmastered version was just a bit flat and not mixed down very well (no offence) and the mastered version is louder and eq'd. It definitely sounds better, but i'd like to hear another mastering engineers opinion.

yah ill agree that the mixing skills are quite low at the moment.

[3za]

MASTERING FIGHT!!!

[PaulAshmore]

I can't really tell fully but it sounds like the unmastered version was just a bit flat and not mixed down very well (no offence) and the mastered version is louder and eq'd. It definitely sounds better, but i'd like to hear another mastering engineers opinion.

yah ill agree that the mixing skills are quite low at the moment.

For a tenner I'd be over the moon with the results personally. The amount of time I put in with this artist getting the master sounding exactly how he wanted.

[deadly_habit]

you get what you pay for
(macc ftw)

[PaulAshmore]

you get what you pay for
(macc ftw)

Not necessarily, although I offer mastering for £10 theres alot of guys out there offering very poor mastering with very poor equipment for £20+. I just offer mastering at a price I feel is fair for both myself and the artist. In my eyes £20 - £30 warrents atleast 2 hours solid work on a master not 5 minutes. I do not doubt high level studios take more time over online mastering and if my track was run through neve eq's I'd be happy to pay £30. More often than not It's seen as a quick buck.

[deadly_habit]

if you need to send 4 or 5 revisions of a mastered track to please your client you're doing something wrong in the first place imo
30 quid for a tune is not even that much especially when you're paying for a PROFESSIONAL ME who makes their living doing just that in a proper mastering environment
especially when that service is used by a lot of both physical format records and digital downloads i own and from very recognizable names and labels
honestly i'd go with macc at subvert http://scmastering.com/ or safe and sound because they have earned their reputation and do this for a living
i find the whole 10 quid thing to be a gimmick that more than likely will lure in people who don't know any better
you have no client list to speak for your reputation, and just close ups of your gear in your studio which doesn't exactly exude confidence that you have a room treated for mastering

[Digezt]

Someone put a track up, and all party's master it and then we can see the difference. Instead of speculating.

[safeandsound]

Literally, this guys answers are clearly amateur. I will just make clear he is not a rival.
As yet he has not said he is up for the challenge, so nothing to reply to.

People should realize choosing a mastering engineer is embarking on a relationship of trust, communication, expertise and real world professional engineering experience. If there was an official mastering shoot out of some kind with a few people partaking, count me in. I do not have time to respond to the endless merriment that will become this thread but sort the details, send me the file. Just to make it of interest to people who charge around £30.00 (I charge £28.00 currently) get a few people in that charge £50.00 + per track.

There are many reasons not to take part, but I have 100pct confident in what I do.

http://www.masteringmastering.co.uk/mas ... ineer.html

cheers

SafeandSound Mastering
mastering dance music

[JTMMusicuk]

i got the impression he was an amateur when he said he would accept a mix that had a bitcrusher on the master full wet....

[Immerse]

this is getting interesting

[safeandsound]

Just to outline a thought...

since I have no idea really about mastering hardware and the like.

Responses like this suggest some people may not be at the level of experience to be able to judge what is and is not a good master. People like this may well be up for burning a tenner (no disrespect either because everyone has to start somewhere), but people who are professional musicians or serious hobbyists and who wish to invest in their artistic product, creative energy and legacy for whatever reason, do not commonly pay £10.00. Just to be clear I believe I should in fact be charging £50.00 for the engineering background and experience I have under my belt relative to many other mastering studios. But alas pricing is a very personal thing and should stay so. But when a start up starts spouting off about......... and to quote "robbing", it is in professionals interest to respond. This is not a bedroom game, this is peoples life work as it is for those who are serious about music making where they put it before all else in there life making serious sacrifice along the way in many cases.

If anyone wants to make something of this please realize I do this day in day out using very serious equipment, so you better be good.