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Re: 808 kick bass tips

Post by vertex » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:26 am

serox wrote:
nowaysj wrote:The pitch of the 808 slides a bit.
Is that all it is? I thought the 808bd was a sine changing pitch really quick or something.
I think it ramps down an octave or two in the first few milliseconds (attack) part of the sound.

I pretty sure it stays a constant pitch after the attack but please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm try I to recreate an 808 using an analogue synth and seem to have got something pretty similar if a little less clicky

:)

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Re: 808 kick bass tips

Post by mitchAUS » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:24 am

vertex wrote:
serox wrote:
nowaysj wrote:The pitch of the 808 slides a bit.
Is that all it is? I thought the 808bd was a sine changing pitch really quick or something.
I think it ramps down an octave or two in the first few milliseconds (attack) part of the sound.

I pretty sure it stays a constant pitch after the attack but please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm try I to recreate an 808 using an analogue synth and seem to have got something pretty similar if a little less clicky

:)
Post from Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:50 pm answered on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:26 am hahaha

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Re: 808 kick bass tips

Post by staticcast » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:12 pm

vertex wrote:
serox wrote:
nowaysj wrote:The pitch of the 808 slides a bit.
Is that all it is? I thought the 808bd was a sine changing pitch really quick or something.
I think it ramps down an octave or two in the first few milliseconds (attack) part of the sound.

I pretty sure it stays a constant pitch after the attack but please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm try I to recreate an 808 using an analogue synth and seem to have got something pretty similar if a little less clicky

:)
you won't be able to do it on a synth. you can get kind of close-ish but won't be able to replicate any of the real characteristics.

you need a sine wave and two pitch envelopes - one very fast (like 1-2ms) which bumps up the pitch by about an octave, one very slow which very subtly drops the pitch as it decays (like 1-2 s/t). apart from that it's basically just a single sine, although there is some very mild distortion in the first half of the decay. the difficult bit is the attack and the enveloping, because the attack comes from "pinging" a resonator (difficult to simulate) and the "bump" envelope is not a standard shape.

naked 808 kicks are not very good for basslines anyway though IMO. they won't cut through anything without extra pitch enveloping or more processing.
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Re: 808 kick bass tips

Post by Perej » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:25 pm

static_cast wrote:
vertex wrote:
serox wrote:
nowaysj wrote:The pitch of the 808 slides a bit.
Is that all it is? I thought the 808bd was a sine changing pitch really quick or something.
I think it ramps down an octave or two in the first few milliseconds (attack) part of the sound.

I pretty sure it stays a constant pitch after the attack but please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm try I to recreate an 808 using an analogue synth and seem to have got something pretty similar if a little less clicky

:)
you won't be able to do it on a synth. you can get kind of close-ish but won't be able to replicate any of the real characteristics.

you need a sine wave and two pitch envelopes - one very fast (like 1-2ms) which bumps up the pitch by about an octave, one very slow which very subtly drops the pitch as it decays (like 1-2 s/t). apart from that it's basically just a single sine, although there is some very mild distortion in the first half of the decay. the difficult bit is the attack and the enveloping, because the attack comes from "pinging" a resonator (difficult to simulate) and the "bump" envelope is not a standard shape.

naked 808 kicks are not very good for basslines anyway though IMO. they won't cut through anything without extra pitch enveloping or more processing.
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Re: 808 kick bass tips

Post by Skeemstep » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:06 pm

This thread... Although simple, is golden. I just had musical revelations... Thank you Hackman for the post... Always been a fan of your tunes since I heard Close :Q:
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