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Post by Gorō Masamune » Wed May 09, 2012 4:25 pm

This is a question for a professional.

About where should the following portions of a track sit in the EQ range for everything to have a decent balance/space for each other:

1. Hi Hats
2. Percussion
3. Kicks
4. Snares
5. Lead Synths
6. Sub Bass
7. Heavy Basslines
8. FX

And any other sounds I'm leaving out that you'd like to mention. I feel this is a question that will help many producers.


PLEASE only reply with comments that progress the topic & if you feel aggravated by the question just ignore it & move on. Thanks.
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Re: EQ

Post by wub » Wed May 09, 2012 4:28 pm

Are you asking for what order they should appear, or the freq range that each element should appear in?

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Re: EQ

Post by Gorō Masamune » Wed May 09, 2012 4:30 pm

wub wrote:Are you asking for what order they should appear, or the freq range that each element should appear in?
Frequency range. My bad I actually meant to say that.
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Re: EQ

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Re: EQ

Post by Gorō Masamune » Wed May 09, 2012 4:35 pm

You couldn't have given a better fucking reply. Cheers
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Re: EQ

Post by wub » Wed May 09, 2012 4:46 pm

No worries 8)

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Re: EQ

Post by OfficialDAPT » Wed May 09, 2012 4:59 pm

wub wrote:No worries 8)
Do you know of a more dubstep based one of those? One that factors in all some of the crazy sounds used in the recent dubstep scene.
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Re: EQ

Post by Hircine » Wed May 09, 2012 5:06 pm

OfficialDAPT wrote:
wub wrote:No worries 8)
Do you know of a more dubstep based one of those? One that factors in all some of the crazy sounds used in the recent dubstep scene.
Your ears. After you get some experience in the EQ field, you can lose the charts and work with a spectrum analyzer only.
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Re: EQ

Post by Sonika » Wed May 09, 2012 5:09 pm

you should have your sub bass sitting somewhere around 500 hz :6:
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Re: EQ

Post by OfficialDAPT » Wed May 09, 2012 5:13 pm

Sonika wrote:you should have your sub bass sitting somewhere around 500 hz :6:
haha i'm not that retarded
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Re: EQ

Post by nowaysj » Thu May 10, 2012 7:45 am

Gorō Masamune wrote:This is a question for a professional.

About where should the following portions of a track sit in the EQ range for everything to have a decent balance/space for each other:

1. Hi Hats
2. Percussion
3. Kicks
4. Snares
5. Lead Synths
6. Sub Bass
7. Heavy Basslines
8. FX

And any other sounds I'm leaving out that you'd like to mention. I feel this is a question that will help many producers.


PLEASE only reply with comments that progress the topic & if you feel aggravated by the question just ignore it & move on. Thanks.
Forget the charts. You can get exact dubstep answers. Put a track in the style you like into your daw, view the waveform as a spectrogram if your daw has that ability or put a spectrograph on it, and listen to and watch the track. Jot down notes and fill in your questions. They playing a sub, where does it sit? 55hz, check. They play an edgy mid bass, where does it sit, 770hz, check. Wam. Do it for a few songs, as each is going to be different, but it'll give you a rough idea of where and how things can sit together.

I've been seeing a lot of analytical questions around here lately, and no one seems to be willing to use their daws as an analytical/study/educational tool. You can learn a lot looking at and working with audio in your daw, entirely not making music.

Why don't you do what I suggested and post up the results. Would be really dope and would help your fellow producers.
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Re: EQ

Post by Gorō Masamune » Thu May 10, 2012 4:27 pm

Put a track in the style you like into your daw, view the waveform as a spectrogram if your daw has that ability or put a spectrograph on it, and listen to and watch the track. Jot down notes and fill in your questions. They playing a sub, where does it sit? 55hz, check. They play an edgy mid bass, where does it sit, 770hz, check. Wam. Do it for a few songs, as each is going to be different, but it'll give you a rough idea of where and how things can sit together.
Yes I have seen spectrographs used before when guys want to see where their tracks are hitting brick wall, etc. If one can open in FL Studio 10, which I don't see any reason why it shouldn't, that actually sounds like a wise idea.

Any suggestions where to find a good one?
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Re: EQ

Post by nowaysj » Thu May 10, 2012 4:43 pm

Drop the pro track into edison and hit S. You'll see a spectrogram rather than a waveform. Very very informative.
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Re: EQ

Post by Gorō Masamune » Thu May 10, 2012 4:52 pm

nowaysj wrote:Drop the pro track into edison and hit S. You'll see a spectrogram rather than a waveform. Very very informative.
Cool thanks. I'll experiment with it some
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Re: EQ

Post by bRRRz » Sun May 13, 2012 1:38 pm

1. Hi Hats: between 1k and 2k up to the top
2. Percussion: like 500 to 5k
3. Kicks: cut everything below about 60 to 70 and boost around 90-100, bit of top end around 5k
4. Snares: cut below 200 and really boost that, after that pretty much everything except the really highend
5. Lead Synths: dont really use leadsynths atm, but I'd try mid around 500 to high
6. Sub Bass: 0 to ~ 60-70
7. Heavy Basslines: i always cut them below 100 and fill out the rest except the highend again
8. FX: i always have them all over the place except the sub region, just listen to how they sound and fit

Well that generally works for me, listen to the sound of the tune in my sig and see if you like that EQing yourself, because that's all that matters!
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Re: EQ

Post by Augment » Sun May 13, 2012 1:51 pm

Gorō Masamune wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Drop the pro track into edison and hit S. You'll see a spectrogram rather than a waveform. Very very informative.
Cool thanks. I'll experiment with it some
You can also drop a Fruity Parametric EQ 2 on the master and watch the frequencies. I do this from time to time. You can also take out or boost certain frequencies when you doing this.
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