Getting the low end this tight... how the fuck

samdam1 · Post by **samdam1** » Sat May 12, 2012 3:00 am

Yeah yeah obviously would've had top of the line engineers on this track. But the tightness of the low-end FUUUU... and yeah whether you like Skrillex or Korn or not.. gotta admint it nom sayin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZLPf-m5 ... ure=relmfu

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Sat May 12, 2012 3:17 am

eq and mixing

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Sat May 12, 2012 3:35 am

Always bothers me when the drum track in a song doesn't match up with what's being played in the video...

Eat Bass · Post by **Eat Bass** » Sat May 12, 2012 6:04 am

i dont get what your looking for? theres no secret formula for any song to have a tight mix. it all depends on the song. not to mention id be willing to bet a lot of money that song was professionally mixed and mastered by a separate engineer...

Ocelots Revolver · Post by **Ocelots Revolver** » Sat May 12, 2012 6:54 am

I liked that song for the first 30 seconds and then it became unlistenable.

Fistfight Lullaby · Post by **Fistfight Lullaby** » Sat May 12, 2012 6:58 am

Multi-band compression is often used to get the low-end tighter. It's usually done in the mastering phase.

bRRRz · Post by **bRRRz** » Sat May 12, 2012 10:00 am

Sounds like great EQ and maybe even sidechaining.

samdam1 · Post by **samdam1** » Sat May 12, 2012 10:20 am

Ocelots Revolver wrote:I liked that song for the first 30 seconds and then it became unlistenable.

Out of every story that ever was, that was definitely the coolest.

Perej · Post by **Perej** » Sat May 12, 2012 11:33 am

That tune was absolutely WANK. You Americans should be ashamed of yourselves. Please stop listening to this stuff. Go to the house section of this forum and discover decent music. Kthx.

Aphile · Post by **Aphile** » Sat May 12, 2012 1:02 pm

Perej wrote:That tune was absolutely WANK. You Americans should be ashamed of yourselves. Please stop listening to this stuff. Go to the house section of this forum and discover decent music. Kthx.

Get off your high horse.

Augment · Post by **Augment** » Sat May 12, 2012 2:13 pm

Perej wrote:That tune was absolutely WANK. You Americans should be ashamed of yourselves. Please stop listening to this stuff. Go to the house section of this forum and discover decent music. Kthx.

heard about taste?

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Sat May 12, 2012 2:15 pm

Perej wrote:That tune was absolutely WANK. You Americans should be ashamed of yourselves. Please stop listening to this stuff. Go to the house section of this forum and discover decent music. Kthx.

yeah man its all our fault

Perfecture · Post by **Perfecture** » Sat May 12, 2012 2:58 pm

EQ, Compression and Gain Structure. Those are the 3 most important parts for punchy, clean and tight mixes. ESPECIALLY EQ and Gain Structure. Learn eqing inside out and gain structure your tracks properly and it will make a MASSIVE difference.
Obviously you need to get the most out of your individual sounds which will take time and tweaking, but without being able to make them work together (eqing and subtle compression for Cohesion) it will all sound like a mess and lose/flabby. Never ever rely on mastering to make your track sound huge and tight, (polish turd etc etc)

jbcrazy · Post by **jbcrazy** » Sat May 12, 2012 3:13 pm

I think it's give and take. Yes you can make the low end this tight but you lose the weight of the sound. This isn't as heavy as other songs. To integrate Korn s sound I figured you'd have to tone it down on the bottom end.

Perej · Post by **Perej** » Sat May 12, 2012 4:13 pm

blinkesko wrote:
Perej wrote:That tune was absolutely WANK. You Americans should be ashamed of yourselves. Please stop listening to this stuff. Go to the house section of this forum and discover decent music. Kthx.
heard about taste?

Was joking, didn't really think that it might be slightly offensive. Soz

__________ · Post by **__________** » Sat May 12, 2012 11:03 pm

Nothing special about the production on that track IMO. The only characteristic of the mix is LOUDNESS. There's not that much low end, I just got waaaay more bass from a track in my DAW at a lower relative volume.

Sounds to me like the real prominence in the bass of that Skrillex/Korn tune is more in the high low-end around 200-300Hz (and obviously the horribly overbearing mid-range wobble 'bass') so if you're not listening on full range speakers (e.g iPod/laptop/average hi-fi, etc) the 'low-end' of this particular tune might seem to be heavier than it is on tracks which have the emphasis on proper sub bass.

Also, the master is massively compressed and brick-wall limited. This makes it seem VERY LOUD AND IN YOUR FACE, EVEN MORE-SO THAN WHAT THEY DO AT TRANSITION!!!!!!!!11!

My advice would be to play around with bassline&kickdrum sidechain compression, big distorted wobbly midrange basslines and lots of 200-400Hz.
Hope that helps you on your quest.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat May 12, 2012 11:10 pm

heh glad i'm not the only one who wanted to say, what low end?

samdam1 · Post by **samdam1** » Mon May 14, 2012 11:59 am

£10 Bag wrote:Nothing special about the production on that track IMO. The only characteristic of the mix is LOUDNESS. There's not that much low end, I just got waaaay more bass from a track in my DAW at a lower relative volume.

Sounds to me like the real prominence in the bass of that Skrillex/Korn tune is more in the high low-end around 200-300Hz (and obviously the horribly overbearing mid-range wobble 'bass') so if you're not listening on full range speakers (e.g iPod/laptop/average hi-fi, etc) the 'low-end' of this particular tune might seem to be heavier than it is on tracks which have the emphasis on proper sub bass.

Also, the master is massively compressed and brick-wall limited. This makes it seem VERY LOUD AND IN YOUR FACE, EVEN MORE-SO THAN WHAT THEY DO AT TRANSITION!!!!!!!!11!

My advice would be to play around with bassline&kickdrum sidechain compression, big distorted wobbly midrange basslines and lots of 200-400Hz.
Hope that helps you on your quest.

I didn't say how much bass it has, I said how tight the bass is.

But yeah thanks anyway

samdam1 · Post by **samdam1** » Mon May 14, 2012 12:00 pm

deadly habit wrote:heh glad i'm not the only one who wanted to say, what low end?

You are very cool sir

Killamike49 · Post by **Killamike49** » Mon May 14, 2012 1:09 pm

samdam1 wrote:
deadly habit wrote:heh glad i'm not the only one who wanted to say, what low end?
You are very cool sir

So are you.

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