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Billy Corgan Interview on the Modern Music Industry

Post by forsak3n » Tue May 15, 2012 12:19 am

http://mashable.com/2012/05/01/billy-corgan-revolution/

What do you guys think of this??
As guitarist and co-founder of the Smashing Pumpkins, Billy Corgan was at the forefront of one of the most important music movements in recent history. And he’s not finished. The Pumpkins have a new album coming out in June, and Corgan is splitting time between music and helping artists take back control from labels. He wants talented musicians to have more lucrative careers and engage their fans. At the same time, he’s calling on fans — who play a more critical role in artist success than ever before — to invest in the artists they love.

Corgan, who’s no stranger to controversy, believes that the music industry is currently structured to prevent artists from achieving the type of success his band enjoyed. In fact, Corgan doesn’t believe the Pumpkins could achieve the success they have, or anything close to it, if they debuted now.

In March, Billy and I took the stage together at SXSW Interactive and for a discussion that sent a series of shockwaves throughout the music industry. As he said in Austin, artists are becoming much like sex workers — once you’ve scored a record deal, “you’re just the fresh stripper.”

Sensationalism aside, his point is that both artists and fans must assume responsibility for the future of music if it is to mean something more than viral videos and hit singles. This is about engagement. This is about sustained relevance.

While we were in Austin, we took some time to also record the season three premiere episode of Revolution.

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Re: Billy Corgan Interview on the Modern Music Industry

Post by efence » Tue May 15, 2012 3:13 am

forsak3n wrote:http://mashable.com/2012/05/01/billy-corgan-revolution/

What do you guys think of this??

Corgan, who’s no stranger to controversy, believes that the music industry is currently structured to prevent artists from achieving the type of success his band enjoyed. In fact, Corgan doesn’t believe the Pumpkins could achieve the success they have, or anything close to it, if they debuted now.
being a rockstar sounds(and might be pretty cool)but for me the music is why i do it. Most artist that achieve stardom like Billy end up writting shittier and shittier music just like Billy did. Alblum contracts with dates for releases from record labels and writting while on a tour busses has sometimes left us with alblums where you are left scratching your head.
i just know i started playing music and then writting because it settled the demons in me. it made me feel some what ok with the world and more people now here my music then back in 1996 when i started to record. back then the only people that listened were friends and a few people that would buy my self made cassettes and cd's at indie record stores and raves.

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Re: Billy Corgan Interview on the Modern Music Industry

Post by Attila » Tue May 15, 2012 4:04 am

As long as you're producing in the right market you can always achieve solid success...so these days that leaves you with either edm or some indie/hipster stuff. I just think it's pretty obvious rock is going out of style and is being replaced by electronic music. So the Smashing Pumpkins couldn't become successful today in the same way a do-wop band would have trouble breaking through in the early 90s.

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Re: Billy Corgan Interview on the Modern Music Industry

Post by efence » Tue May 15, 2012 4:45 am

in my opinion rock is an idea/attitude not a diffinetive sound or formula....rock is as alive as ever

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Re: Billy Corgan Interview on the Modern Music Industry

Post by ketamine » Wed May 16, 2012 11:11 am

The music industry is just an insanely crowded place now.

Every decade the amount of people/bands trying to be heard quadruple by the hundreds. Look at Soundcloud. There are thousands of dubstep producers alone, nevermind the rest of EDM, people trying to break into House, Garage, etc… trying to get attention… It’s mathematically impossible for everybody to break through to Superstardom even in these tiny genres, so when you look at a genre as huge & old as ROCK music, why is this a surprise…

Achieving 1990s-Smashing-Pumpkins-Level-Stardom now is like winning a Lottery… regardless of your talent or work ethic. It’s just so many people trying.

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Re: Billy Corgan Interview on the Modern Music Industry

Post by 4rantare » Wed May 16, 2012 1:02 pm

ketamine wrote: Achieving 1990s-Smashing-Pumpkins-Level-Stardom now is like winning a Lottery… regardless of your talent or work ethic. It’s just so many people trying.
I disagree.. I think with the right talent and attitude anything is really possible.. you probably have to work your ass off though; I'm not saying it'd be easy. ;-)
Dubstep isn't much mainstream either so it's not directly a good genre if you want to "become famous". :P

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Post by Today » Wed May 16, 2012 1:18 pm

not just anything is possible. some things become impossible no matter how bad you want to believe they're not. The recording scene is no longer a viable industry unless you want to do work for someone else. No one gets behind an artist anymore and develops a sound in the studio like they used to. you're expected to already have the full package prepared and attach it to Pepsi or RedBull or some shit on TV to get your paycheck. Acts like Bieber are hired by labels to sing songs they prepare and market to tweens. The adult record industry as we knew it has gone.
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Post by Electric_Head » Wed May 16, 2012 1:22 pm

A group out of SA has just been signed to Linkin Parks' label.
They had an interview with them on the radio and they mentioned that if they wanted US success, they would have to dumb down their sound and simplify their lyrics to basic emotions.
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Post by InternetSlaveMaster » Wed May 16, 2012 1:43 pm

As for the "rock is dead" thing, it seems like every decade rock goes away and then comes back.

Like, it will receed, and then there will be this whole new wave or rockers who bring it back because people get tired of what's popular at the time. Then, that rock gets popular, and that receeds again, to continue the cycle.

However, if electronic music is the new rock can be debatable. I agree with the "rock is an attitude" thing. Same attitude just different sounds in most cases.

Love Smashing Pumpkins though, from what I've heard of their new album (Oceania, not the 44 track one or whatever), it's pretty good, seems promising, although I always think this about older bands I like releasing new material and then letting me down.

I know if Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie came out today though, it will still hit it big. I'm not sure if it would be *as* big, but it would still be huge. Those albums are universal IMO, people are still going to react to good music.

The only reason those albums might not be as big would be because when they came out, they were pretty much groundbreaking. Since then, they spawned so many bands that were inspired by them, that if they came out now, they wouldn't he the original, just another band with that sort of sound. "Smashing Pumpkins? The guys that try and sound like Silversun Pickups?"

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Re: Billy Corgan Interview on the Modern Music Industry

Post by ForbiddenFruitRecord » Wed May 16, 2012 3:51 pm

Good to hear Corgan speaking out.

As much as artists have a responsibility to make great original music, not just follow trends, so music lovers need to support artists whos work they love listening too. Spotify an rest of that kind of stuff ain't support artists to me. Neither as people putting rips of artists tracks on youtube ...

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Re: Billy Corgan Interview on the Modern Music Industry

Post by Today » Wed May 16, 2012 4:00 pm

i can agree wit that. I love the Pumpkins original body of work. Haven't heard any new stuff. The record industry will be completely restructured , either in a way that preserves some of the old qualities of fame and success, or in a new way that only has room for commissioned recordings to be used in a larger body of work, i.e. TV, adverts, games, multimedia type crap. And for the basic listening experience, we will probably only be offered amateur recordings by one another for p2p/pay what you want/free DL.
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