What are the benefits of Logic?

[Turnipish_Thoughts]

Question should be what are the limitations of logic

[lloydy]

Question should be what are the limitations of logic

Only limitation in logic is the same as every other daw the person learning and using it.

[Sharmaji]

never had any trouble w/ logic's automation-- i really like how the previous parameters are silhouetted in the background when editing others. easy to keep track of what's going on.

also a fan of "latch" mode-- way more musical than drawing stuff in w/ a pencil tool.

I will +1 the fact that it doesn't handle external controllers that well-- nothing beats ableton at that game.

however, logic's Environment more than makes up for it. there's no other DAW out there that will let you get under the hood as much. Logic is the center of my setup, and i can control my synths, call up patches by name, and cycle through them w/o actually moving over to them. pretty ingenious.

[lloydy]

also a fan of "latch" mode-- way more musical than drawing stuff in w/ a pencil tool.

Best feature of logic's automation,if i want to automate the parameter rather than go through the list turn on latch hit play and move the controller.It really couldn't be more simple and i fully agree there is no problem with logics automation function whatsoever.

[ajfa]

Beware that Logic 9 on a brand new iMac with OSX Lion is unstable as shit for me. crashes fairly regularly if i timestretch within the arrange window.

32 bit mode was unusable, 64 bit requires the use of the 32bit audio bridge for my plugins which havent ported over to 64 bit yet (sylenth, soundtoys), which I suspect chews up a bunch of extra processor power (eliminating the point of upgrading my computer).

also if i create a send of one bus to another bus and then output both of the buses to an third bus, (ie parallel compression) it usually creates a noticeable 'lag' in the signal, which has nothing to do with plugin delay compensation, it happens even if there are no plugins on.

but yes if you can get logic running smoothly its really great!

[nowaysj]

^ terrifies me! I've got enough problems already, I don't need a new daw's quirks and flakiness!

[Earjax]

Logic is the best. Get it. But do youself a favour and DONT get the pro version!! The express is about half the price and you really don't need the features of the pro version, which are basically a load of samples and some plugins you''ll never use

[Mysius]

Logic is the best. Get it. But do youself a favour and DONT get the pro version!! The express is about half the price and you really don't need the features of the pro version, which are basically a load of samples and some plugins you''ll never use

Express has been discontinued now and Pro is only £140. What are the plugins you'll never use? Space designer, Delay Designer and the Ad-Limiter alone are worth getting Pro imo

[paosciante]

^^This


Space and Delay designer are probably the best software reverb and delay I have ever seen, and they are native to Logic..

Also, the multipressor is one of my favorites, you can get amazing results out of it, really professional mixes
And I don't know about other people, but I'm still using the electric piano and the organ that comes with Logic, and I use them a lot... pedalboard is also really really cool... and flux is something express never had


pro wins any day... and well, that price of course...

[Sonika]

I like Logic's automation more than Ableton, actually

Each to their own though

[skimpi]

Logic is the best. Get it. But do youself a favour and DONT get the pro version!! The express is about half the price and you really don't need the features of the pro version, which are basically a load of samples and some plugins you''ll never use

Express has been discontinued now and Pro is only £140. What are the plugins you'll never use? Space designer, Delay Designer and the Ad-Limiter alone are worth getting Pro imo

LOL yeah, me and my mate were fuckin around and he has express, wanted to get up the multimeter, and express doesnt have it!

[legend4ry]

Everyone I have known to make the switch their production standard has quadrupled within a year. If that is anything to go by, it must be good at 'something' weather its the inbuilt plugins, the workflow or even just the 'sound' of it (every DAW has an audio engine which all sound different).

If you've got the money and 'want' to try it out, I say go for it! The only DAWs you can't get on os-x are like what.. Fruity and Renoise? My Mrs bought a mac book pro recently and I must say i realllllllly dislike the way OS-X files everything, the way the windows are layed out (wtf is up with maximize not actually maxing the window from corner to corner?) BUT, Photoshop, Logic, Premier and Illustrator all run bloody lovely on it - much better than on my computer (which is of a similar stat, gear wise). So even if you buy a mac, you are not out of options for other DAWs..

This comes from a die-hard Windows user whom uses FLstudio.

[mcpable]

got logic 2 weeks ago, coming from ableton. my experience so far is that i find the interface a bit less intuitive, and like somebody said already less complex routing options, but the overall sound is more professional. i know it's debatable whether there are sound differences between DAWs, but i think it's because of the stock plugins.... just compare Space Designer to abletons reverb for example (the latter sounding cheap and plasticy imo.) Even propatingz said in his workshop that ableton doesn't quite sound as good as other top DAWs.

Also what I like about logic is the default latency for midi input, coming thru my sound card, is pretty much instantaneous

[DubMikey]

"don't start patronizing me with the standard 'it's not the daw it's the user broooo' bollocks please." - I am seriously starting to wonder if this thread is a joke or not, lol. Logic, Ableton, Reason, FL, Cubase and so are all capable of the exact same results, whether you like it or not. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE GUY BEHIND THE SCREEN.

[nowaysj]

And that is what is important, the guy behind the screen.

[Earjax]

Only problems with it are that it takes up massive amounts of cpu, so I wouldn't recommend going for it on the lowest standard of mac, though it is possible (its what I'm doing). Also it crashes on me fairly regularly...but there are autosave features

[Altron]

When I bought my macbook pro, I was set on using Logic and nothing but Logic. Then I tried Ableton, and though I have both, I prefer Ableton, as my workflow is quicker and more efficient. Honestly, in Logic things are a bit more tricky to set up and I dislike the routing aspect. All together, they are both great DAW's, but it really just boils down to what is the easiest for you to work with. I hear some incredibly great productions from producers rocking FL Studio even. Just goes to prove that if you spend enough time in one DAW, you shouldn't necessarily leave it behind to use what everyone else is using.

[VirtualMark]

I'm sorry but some replies sound like BS. Logic may have good plugins, but i'm sure there are equal or better third party plugins. Space designer vs Altiverb, 2C Aether and the Lexicon reverbs? Seriously?

I'm sure it does some things really well and i'd love to try it. But not for the built in plugins, there's plenty of choice out there.

[Huts]

Well obviously there are better third party plugins, however the ones you mentioned are $600, $250, 315$ for REVERBS. Where as you get one hell of a powerhouse in Space Designer as well as some of the best stock plugins around, for less than Aether costs.

[Depone]

I'm sorry but some replies sound like BS. Logic may have good plugins, but i'm sure there are equal or better third party plugins. Space designer vs Altiverb, 2C Aether and the Lexicon reverbs? Seriously?

I'm sure it does some things really well and i'd love to try it. But not for the built in plugins, there's plenty of choice out there.

Yeah think you missed the point there slightly. We are talking about the bundled plugins.
And actually, in my opinion, space designer does stand up with the lexicons and the ativerbs. Its convolution too, so you can expand it with all sorts of new reverb spaces, just like ativerb.

I remember when Sculpture and ultrabeat were additional plugins you had to buy for like £500 or so to have in logic as an expansion of sorts, and that's AFTER you have just spent £500 on Logic itself. (it was the size of a small library too!)

Currently at £139.99 Logic is a STEAL imo.
I have used lots of different DAWs in diferent studios, but for me logic is the one. Its quick and stable, I had cubase 5 for mac crash around 6 times in one day before. What I'm trying to say is don't knock it until you have tried it. But at the asme time I dont tent to usually Bum apple silly, but I do however like their DAW very much