Music and Emotion: A Question.

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Re: Music and Emotion: A Question.

Post by samurai » Tue May 29, 2012 7:50 pm

don't worry I was only messing with you. ffs I wrote up a personal manifesto for aesthetics to tape to my wall.

with regards to creating an emotional feeling with music, I think that is the challenge for the artist. it's not just relevant to creating emotion in your music, but in creating music that has any sort of primary function that goes beyond "just making a track".

every time I go to make a track I have to think about what I want the function of the track to be. then I can go about attempting to create music that fits the function. for years (and still now...) I was just creating tracks with no external meaning. there is nothing inherently wrong with this of course, but I want to create music that translates something to the listener. whether that be an abstract emotion or a more direct message.

I think how we achieve this as artists varies from individual to individual and from style to style. speaking very broadly a four-on-the-floor beat, or an aggressive bass wobble, already carry a huge cultural weight with them. therefore whenever you use something like this in a track you are referencing (directly or indirectly) the entire context and history of the sound, or pattern, you are employing. that's a very general example, but I think one of the keys to translating a message through your music is being aware of the context which each of the sounds in your tracks evokes and represents.

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Re: Music and Emotion: A Question.

Post by narcissus » Tue May 29, 2012 10:13 pm

YES - i don't think that is acknowledged enough among musicians. the style you choose to make says a lot about you as a person and what you give value to. that's why i hate so much all these random people coming out of nowhere/everywhere making substanceless mockeries of genres that they know nothing about.... like 99% of brostep and brolectro. they have literally no knowledge of real dub, or real hip-hop, or in the case of 'filth electro,' they have never heard real house music before or worse, don't even like it... think it's 'boring'...
so now they come in and stick massive on some vengeance samples and define what other ignorant people think of as "dubstep" or "house," and they big up each other on huge it sounds while asking for feed on their newest soundcloud song that sounds exactly the same... gah rant i suppose.
all i'm saying is be aware of the cultural context that surrounds the music you make, IF you do attempt to make music with a genre or style in mind

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Re: Music and Emotion: A Question.

Post by nowaysj » Wed May 30, 2012 8:16 am

bassbum wrote:I dont really understand it but some things hold emotional energy, like a forum post. Your emotional energy comes through in the post. You can do this with music too, when I listen to music I can feel waves of different emotions coming from the speakers.
I wonder if that is how that DoD datacenter can identify the author of any anonymous writing on the internet? Your vibe is undeniable. S'how you can identify the same poster even though they change their name/avatar.

bassbum wrote:I want to know how to increase the energy in my music? I can change the emotions around me from on to another by just thinking about it but I cant seem to change the emotions in my music.
I don't know man. I don't know if you can change your energy so easily. It is extremely complex and resilient this thing we become as we age. I'm sure you can fake it for a track or two... But I think you have to learn your tools well enough so that you can actually express with them. The more you know your tools, the more they disappear, and the more you appear. Imo, as always.
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Re: Music and Emotion: A Question.

Post by bassbum » Wed May 30, 2012 11:50 am

nowaysj wrote:
bassbum wrote:I dont really understand it but some things hold emotional energy, like a forum post. Your emotional energy comes through in the post. You can do this with music too, when I listen to music I can feel waves of different emotions coming from the speakers.
I wonder if that is how that DoD datacenter can identify the author of any anonymous writing on the internet? Your vibe is undeniable. S'how you can identify the same poster even though they change their name/avatar.

bassbum wrote:I want to know how to increase the energy in my music? I can change the emotions around me from on to another by just thinking about it but I cant seem to change the emotions in my music.
I don't know man. I don't know if you can change your energy so easily. It is extremely complex and resilient this thing we become as we age. I'm sure you can fake it for a track or two... But I think you have to learn your tools well enough so that you can actually express with them. The more you know your tools, the more they disappear, and the more you appear. Imo, as always.
I dont think people are just using production tools to get the high amounts of energy they have in there tracks. Maybe they dont understand it and one of the higher ups dose it for them because they like them. I think tho that people have alot more power than they let on.

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Re: Music and Emotion: A Question.

Post by nowaysj » Wed May 30, 2012 2:24 pm

I don't think it is linear though, in terms of energy/power, whatever you wanna call it. People just have different vibes, and that comes across in all the things they do. Art is in everything, how you put your shoes on, how you choose a threshold for your compressor, all of it.

A lot of people fight their vibe, you know? Like maybe they like high intensity music, because it is their compliment, but they go to make that high intensity music, but it doesn't work because it isn't their primary. You smoking what I'm packing, in the words of an ancient?
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Re: Music and Emotion: A Question.

Post by bassbum » Wed May 30, 2012 3:05 pm

nowaysj wrote:I don't think it is linear though, in terms of energy/power, whatever you wanna call it. People just have different vibes, and that comes across in all the things they do. Art is in everything, how you put your shoes on, how you choose a threshold for your compressor, all of it.

A lot of people fight their vibe, you know? Like maybe they like high intensity music, because it is their compliment, but they go to make that high intensity music, but it doesn't work because it isn't their primary. You smoking what I'm packing, in the words of an ancient?
I get you. My tunes always have a little of what my vibe is at the time in them.

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Re: Music and Emotion: A Question.

Post by nowaysj » Wed May 30, 2012 3:36 pm

I feel you.
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Re: Music and Emotion: A Question.

Post by Metropolis » Wed May 30, 2012 4:53 pm

Bounce and save things to cd then dig them out years later, it keeps it personal. Hope that no one else beats you to it.

Listen to tunes you haven't listened to for 10 years.



Come what may, we feel no way. :) Tunes like that one are transient

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Re: Music and Emotion: A Question.

Post by forsak3n » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:21 am

nowaysj wrote: A lot of people fight their vibe, you know? Like maybe they like high intensity music, because it is their compliment, but they go to make that high intensity music, but it doesn't work because it isn't their primary. You smoking what I'm packing, in the words of an ancient?
Yes! I've come across this lately. I find it easy to make ambient film like music based on soundscapes etc, but when it comes to writing banger tunes, it's kinda like an up hill battle. The thing is, I'm more into the upbeat banger stuff. :/

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