BPM conversion/Ableton Warping

[Dankstep]

Okay so say you have stems for a song, and you want to remix it in a new bpm. Is there like a certain ratio I should stick to when warping it to a new bpm? Like for example say the tune is 109 bpm, is it going to sound better if i warp it to 129, or 139, etc. Like so it's increased an even percentage? like not from 109 to 134 or something random like that, if you understand what i'm getting at.

And what are the best warp functions for certain instruments/types of audio? I know beats for drums obviously, but vocals usually sound weird. Do any of you have experience with what warp modes i should use with certain types of audio/instruments. Like which one for guitar, which one for vocals, which for piano, which one for bass, etc.

[OfficialDAPT]

is it going to sound better if i warp it to 129, or 139, etc. Like so it's increased an even percentage? like not from 109 to 134 or something random like that, if you understand what i'm getting at.

Complex pro and complex are for vocals and beats is for beats, although the manual will go way more in depth with those... warping it less will always sound better and no there is no multiple rule with warping. You can warp 109 to 138 and nothing special happens if you warp it to 139 instead.

[Dankstep]

is it going to sound better if i warp it to 129, or 139, etc. Like so it's increased an even percentage? like not from 109 to 134 or something random like that, if you understand what i'm getting at.

Complex pro and complex are for vocals and beats is for beats, although the manual will go way more in depth with those... warping it less will always sound better and no there is no multiple rule with warping. You can warp 109 to 138 and nothing special happens if you warp it to 139 instead.

Gotcha, yeah i tried out bpms and ended up going with a slower one because the vocals sound better but still maintain a faster tempo than the original like i wanted. I really don't know how to properly use the extra parameters that complex pro gives you, so i just end up using complex because it sounds better.. Atleast to me..

[OfficialDAPT]

Yep definitely do what sounds better. and click the Hi-Q button so it's yellow in color

[Dankstep]

If I have a clip that's warped to a new bpm using complex, and I have it set to Hi Q, and then freeze it. It'll sound exactly the same as unfrozen and maintain all those settings and save me tons of cpu right? I dont want to flatten them to audio yet I want to be able to come back and change stuff If i want. I'm already having to start a completely new projects because I had some stuff bounced then realized I didnt like it and the project was getting way too messy.

but wait.. I just moused over the Hi Q setting and it says "This setting does not affect time stretching" Is it saying it doesn't affect warped clips?

[OfficialDAPT]

If I have a clip that's warped to a new bpm using complex, and I have it set to Hi Q, and then freeze it. It'll sound exactly the same as unfrozen and maintain all those settings and save me tons of cpu right? I dont want to flatten them to audio yet I want to be able to come back and change stuff If i want. I'm already having to start a completely new projects because I had some stuff bounced then realized I didnt like it and the project was getting way too messy.

Freezing will not do much if your are working with audio clips. Freezing saves CPU if there is a lot of shit going on in the effects chain. Also, you're right freezing does not change any settings it just basically plays whats in the rack after the FX chain without having to go through it again.

[Dankstep]

If I have a clip that's warped to a new bpm using complex, and I have it set to Hi Q, and then freeze it. It'll sound exactly the same as unfrozen and maintain all those settings and save me tons of cpu right? I dont want to flatten them to audio yet I want to be able to come back and change stuff If i want. I'm already having to start a completely new projects because I had some stuff bounced then realized I didnt like it and the project was getting way too messy.

Freezing will not do much if your are working with audio clips. Freezing saves CPU if there is a lot of shit going on in the effects chain. Also, you're right freezing does not change any settings it just basically plays whats in the rack after the FX chain without having to go through it again.

Well complex and complex pro uses some cpu and i have a lot of warped tracks that's why I ask. But thanks. What about the Hi Q on warped clips.

Edit: Nevermind, Hi Q only matters if the sample rate of the audio is different from what you're using in your Daw. My samples are 24 bit stereo so it wouldn't have an effect.