Knife Party - Centipede Bass Tutorial

[BombsandBottles]

Hey dudes,

Just made this tutorial that I think some of you might find useful. Goes into FM synthesis, talking bass, distortion, haus effect, etc. etc.

Enjoy, hope its useful.

http://youtu.be/tbWrN8eq0O4

[Ongelegen]

haas effect

[Climax]

that is really spot on, good job man, great tut

[TokerCoughin]

Excellent work dude, that's basically spot-on.

Only problem I have with this is, I don't use Reason!
Can you give me some advice with translating this technique to Logic or Live ?

[puzzlefactory]

Cool patch, I'm definitely going to give this a go. Out of interest, why did you use Etchs LFO on Thors filters? Why not just run the signal through Etches filters?

P.s quite like your "Noisia Reese" patch too.

[willryan042]

Definitely going to check this out. Hopefully I can translate it to produce some results in Ableton.

[shim]

i like fm8 we should do that

[puzzlefactory]

Excellent work dude, that's basically spot-on.

Only problem I have with this is, I don't use Reason!
Can you give me some advice with translating this technique to Logic or Live ?

This is quite easy to re-create in another DAW as long as you know a bit about FM synthesis. It's basically 1 Oscillator modulating (with frequency modulation, FM) 6 other Oscillators in various degrees. Then the signal is run through a parallel dual bandpass filter and finally through a distortion device.

Fm8 would be the easiest instrument to use as it has enough oscillators in a single instrument to route the modulator to all 6 carrier oscillators. You could also use 2 of Live's "Operator" synths stacked in a rack with identical settings. In Fm8 it's just a case of creating the "algorithm" by clicking and dragging the boxes next to each oscillator until you create the same chain (1 operator modulating 6 others) and then routing the outputs of each of the oscillators (except the modulator) to the master out. Then play around with the ratio (octaves) of the oscillators and the amount of FM each is receiving from the modulator.

Then run the whole signal through a dual bandpass filter, (Etch would be perfect for this) with an LFO effecting both filters but in opposite directions (so when one filter is opening the other is closing) then run it through a distortion (Ohmicide would be my choice as it's a multiband distortion).

Hope this helps a bit.

[mromgwtf]

Excellent work dude, that's basically spot-on.

Only problem I have with this is, I don't use Reason!
Can you give me some advice with translating this technique to Logic or Live ?

This is quite easy to re-create in another DAW as long as you know a bit about FM synthesis. It's basically 1 Oscillator modulating (with frequency modulation, FM) 6 other Oscillators in various degrees. Then the signal is run through a parallel dual bandpass filter and finally through a distortion device.

Fm8 would be the easiest instrument to use as it has enough oscillators in a single instrument to route the modulator to all 6 carrier oscillators. You could also use 2 of Live's "Operator" synths stacked in a rack with identical settings. In Fm8 it's just a case of creating the "algorithm" by clicking and dragging the boxes next to each oscillator until you create the same chain (1 operator modulating 6 others) and then routing the outputs of each of the oscillators (except the modulator) to the master out. Then play around with the ratio (octaves) of the oscillators and the amount of FM each is receiving from the modulator.

Then run the whole signal through a dual bandpass filter, (Etch would be perfect for this) with an LFO effecting both filters but in opposite directions (so when one filter is opening the other is closing) then run it through a distortion (Ohmicide would be my choice as it's a multiband distortion).

Hope this helps a bit.

I tried recreating this in fm8, and i failed
Can you make tutorial how to make similar bass in fm8?
Btw. reason is pain in ass to use. A lot of those cables and stuff. Fm8 is much easier

[BombsandBottles]

Cool patch, I'm definitely going to give this a go. Out of interest, why did you use Etchs LFO on Thors filters? Why not just run the signal through Etches filters?

P.s quite like your "Noisia Reese" patch too.

Forgot all about this thread. Umm, I used Thor out of just playing around, obviously the same if not better result can be obtained in Etch Red. When making Band Pass talking before I was using a bipolar saw wave which was less accurate (but arguably more interesting) because the filters would be placed farther apart and moving across more of the freq. Spectrum. I probably just wanted to see what results I would get by routing a Unipolar wave, modding the filters in opposite directions from the same start point. As you can see, it's much more accurate to create whatever vowel you want, and way easier to set up.

Excellent work dude, that's basically spot-on.

Only problem I have with this is, I don't use Reason!
Can you give me some advice with translating this technique to Logic or Live ?

This is quite easy to re-create in another DAW as long as you know a bit about FM synthesis. It's basically 1 Oscillator modulating (with frequency modulation, FM) 6 other Oscillators in various degrees. Then the signal is run through a parallel dual bandpass filter and finally through a distortion device.

Fm8 would be the easiest instrument to use as it has enough oscillators in a single instrument to route the modulator to all 6 carrier oscillators. You could also use 2 of Live's "Operator" synths stacked in a rack with identical settings. In Fm8 it's just a case of creating the "algorithm" by clicking and dragging the boxes next to each oscillator until you create the same chain (1 operator modulating 6 others) and then routing the outputs of each of the oscillators (except the modulator) to the master out. Then play around with the ratio (octaves) of the oscillators and the amount of FM each is receiving from the modulator.

Then run the whole signal through a dual bandpass filter, (Etch would be perfect for this) with an LFO effecting both filters but in opposite directions (so when one filter is opening the other is closing) then run it through a distortion (Ohmicide would be my choice as it's a multiband distortion).

Hope this helps a bit.

I tried recreating this in fm8, and i failed
Can you make tutorial how to make similar bass in fm8?
Btw. reason is pain in ass to use. A lot of those cables and stuff. Fm8 is much easier

All those cables are why I use Reason haha. I have promised people that I will do this in FM8 at some point but I'm just really busy with my own music right now so I don't know when I'll get to it. I've got a sweet Feed Me bass tut lined up, was digging through my patches today and noticed one of them is straight Jon Gooch so I'll prob tweak it a little for a popular song by him and make a tut on that soon.

Thanks man.

[the dub lemon]

Is it more or does reason give a lot more "squelch" effect than fm8? After modulating the 6 sines with a pitched down saw you get a nice bit of top end movement in this video but if you do something like that in fm8 it sounds much more static?

Edit: just tried something simliar in Zebra2 and it sounds much more like Reason with movement on the top end, interesting.

[Filthzilla]

Massive noob question but how do you open a .cmb file?

I've tried to open it in Combinator but I can't.

Cheers.

[Eat Bass]

Massive noob question but how do you open a .cmb file?

I've tried to open it in Combinator but I can't.

Cheers.

thats how you do it. what version of reason do you have? the op is using 6.5.

btw hi bombs and bottles. funny i was talking to you on youtube and then i saw you posted here...

[Filthzilla]

Think I'm on 5.

A mate told me Propheads are good at making sure there's reverse compatibility but obviously not. :L

[wub]

Think I'm on 5.

A mate told me Propheads are good at making sure there's reverse compatibility but obviously not. :L

That's not reverse though, that's moving forward. Reverse would be trying to run v5 patches on v6.5, which is what you can do.

[Ongelegen]

Think I'm on 5.

A mate told me Propheads are good at making sure there's reverse compatibility but obviously not. :L

Yeah, backward compatibility, but you are talking about forward compatibilty which they obviously don't do

[usa]

Good tutorial, now we just need one for NI Massive!

[Coolschmid]

Good tutorial, now we just need one for NI Massive!

Just transfer the stuff he talked about over to massive...

Its a harmonically rich tone with parallel bandpass filters on it.