Problems making "brostep".

[jamesmakan]

No problem, man. I guess I just kind of got on a roll. lol

[hookey]

One more thing to measure loudness is the RMS level. This is a number that tells you the average volume of a song.
The higher the number the quieter. -14 is quieter than -10. -10 to -8 is pretty loud, I wouldn't ever go louder than this unless you want the mix to sound over-saturated, pulsating and mushy. More important, I have found, is the amount by which the song is compressed, as I said before by the limiter.

Anyway, now you have a pretty long summary of EQ and compression, I hope you find this extensive monologue useful in some way.

Feel free to ask any questions, I am more than willing to help out in any way I can. =)

Sincerely,
James

Thanks great post. But I find something weird. You say -10 -8 is pretty loud and you wouldn't go louder than this. Well i've been running some Skrillex tracks on my IXL and it readed around -5 and sometimes -4.5ish depending on the track, yet his stuff while loud is clean and crisp. Whats going on with that?

[Trible]

Dubstep is focusing more on the ambience and the individual sounds, while "Brostep" Is simply just taking those sounds and going crazy with it. - Some guy

Dubstep is around 140bpm while "Brostep" is usually placed around the 175bpm mark from what i know.
I could be wrong.... (I wouldn't doubt it.)

[ehbes]

Dubstep is focusing more on the ambience and the individual sounds, while "Brostep" Is simply just taking those sounds and going crazy with it. - Some guy

Dubstep is around 140bpm while "Brostep" is usually placed around the 175bpm mark from what i know.
I could be wrong.... (I wouldn't doubt it.)

You're wrong Dnb is in the 175 range

[Trible]

You're wrong Dnb is in the 175 range

I was always told that DnB is 169bpm.
I just know that i've heard a few song around 175 & 176 mark that were deemed "Brostep."
Is there even really a standard bpm for brostep though?

[JTreeZY]

A well placed screech can be sick sometimes, i'd love to have that in my repotoire

[hutyluty]

[StratosFear]

If you only make laid-back tunes, keep making 'em. But only if you like that type of music as well--if you don't have the inspiration, it won't be as good.

I know exactly how you feel. I got into electronic music through brostep and EDM and really really wanted to make those styles...but I couldn't. I was much better at making melodic stuff. So I explored all the melodic electronic genres, and started to really like them.

So if you're good at a genre and you like it, keep going!

[baddaBOOM]

When it comes to the point you try and things get worse , Your probably on a writers block. Every producer gets it, I recommend to take a break for 1-2 weeks and come back with a new set of mind. Keep in mind the goal you want to achieve and don't give up

[jrisreal]

OP, I went through the same thing for a bit until I realized that the problem is this: I didn't like brostep very much anymore. Just felt uninspired and tunes weren't coming out very good anymore. So I stopped and went into the deep end, where I currently reside.

Before you get mad at this response, consider the possibility that you are working without inspiration... You may be at a point where you have an idea of what brostep is supposed to be and, instead of working off of your own passion, you're just arranging sounds to a template without feeling it.

This is difficult for me to explain in plain text, but I hope the point is getting across correctly.

[MowyWowy]

Im no expert
literally made everything sound just gritty as fuck.
id suggest keeping a little of a melody so it doesnt sound overly random.
im not sure man. watch some tutorials on youtube to give you some inspiration.
listen to some brostep.

[elyhess]

find a new genre!!!

[mikeyp]

maybe instead of trying to completely make bro, why not combine the two?

start off slow
maybe use a melodic chilled intro like something you're used to and good at, and then bring in a little dirtier bass line
keep doing this. get a little dirtier every time. everything will fall into place

[SaveMidnight]

maybe instead of trying to completely make bro, why not combine the two?

start off slow
maybe use a melodic chilled intro like something you're used to and good at, and then bring in a little dirtier bass line
keep doing this. get a little dirtier every time. everything will fall into place

Do you mean within the same song? Or do you mean each song you do it it will get a little dirtier?

[hasezwei]

You're wrong Dnb is in the 175 range

I was always told that DnB is 169bpm.
I just know that i've heard a few song around 175 & 176 mark that were deemed "Brostep."
Is there even really a standard bpm for brostep though?

[hasezwei]

@OP: brostep doesnt equal brostep if you know what i mean.

theres tons of different ways to interpret tearout wobbly stuff. some is reliant on catchy melodies, some is purely rhythmic, some is only about the timbre of the midrange and most is a mixture of the above, but almost always focused in one direction.

for example skrilly's scatta is all about how ridiculous that growl sound is. thats all there is to that tune. whereas flux pavillion's lines in wax ep might use sounds that i dont like at all but i still find myself listening to it from time to time cause the melodies are great. personally the kind of tearout/bro stuff i like is where the wobbles and the beat work together to form a nice rhythm to skank to (which in my opinion is the most true to oldschool dubstep), stuff like sukh knight




thats pretty much the 3 elements of brostep: rhythm (as in lfo rate), melody (as in which mainstream house track am i gonna rip off) and timbre (as in how can i make my track even more earsplitting than anyone before me)

and when writing brostep always start with the drop cause in the end it doesnt even matter what intro you use (reso actually said something along those lines in his masterclass )

hope this helped

[cmgoodman1226]

OP, I went through the same thing for a bit until I realized that the problem is this: I didn't like brostep very much anymore. Just felt uninspired and tunes weren't coming out very good anymore. So I stopped and went into the deep end, where I currently reside.

Before you get mad at this response, consider the possibility that you are working without inspiration... You may be at a point where you have an idea of what brostep is supposed to be and, instead of working off of your own passion, you're just arranging sounds to a template without feeling it.

This is difficult for me to explain in plain text, but I hope the point is getting across correctly.

I feel the exact same way. I still do produce brostep but I've been most making drum and bass and "future garage" (I hate that name) as of late.

[mikeyp]

maybe instead of trying to completely make bro, why not combine the two?

start off slow
maybe use a melodic chilled intro like something you're used to and good at, and then bring in a little dirtier bass line
keep doing this. get a little dirtier every time. everything will fall into place

Do you mean within the same song? Or do you mean each song you do it it will get a little dirtier?

with each song. make a tune how you normally would now and just add a little grit to it. see how that works and maybe do a little more on the next one. i think the writing and arrangement will follow

might work might not but it's worth a shot

[Smiles]

Right now I am having some trouble making my A and B bassline sections fit together. They are similar so i just assumed they fit right in but it still feels like it just jumps from one to another. When I produce deeper stuff it just kind of flows with the fx and delays but with brostep idk i just can't get it to work. If anyone could help me I will love you.

[SoundNuisance]

I have been very inactive haven't I Anyways, just to fill you guys in I have been working on live stuff. Also playing more metal. I have taken all your advice though and I will use it very soon when I get back into making electronic music. I think my problem was working without inspiration, hopefully this journey of metal I am partaking in will help with that. I will probably work on my sound design for a couple months and get back into serious production. Thank you so much for all the input, it has helped immensely. You really don't know how grateful I am.