How do you make a fat sounding piano?

chillpenguin · Post by **chillpenguin** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:40 am

I have ableton, kontakt, nexus, and i cannot figure out how people like skrillex get such a fat sounding piano. It must be the processing because i know skrillex uses abletons built in piano.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:41 am

Same way you would make anything else seem bigger..

chillpenguin · Post by **chillpenguin** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:05 am

Oh ok thanks i think that will work!

Aufnahmewindwuschel · Post by **Aufnahmewindwuschel** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:02 am

give him a wunderbar or sth should make him quiet for a while

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:30 pm

place overhead mic, place mic close to opening, repeat ad nausea for hours till it sounds good, pray you don't have phasing issues, profit

Today · Post by **Today** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:36 pm

use one of kontakt's two stock grand pianos which are terrific... compress?

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:41 pm

i always found pianoteq better sounding than the pianos in kontakt
i forget what the original ni piano plug was, but it's a shame they stopped updating it

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:49 pm

Can't stand kontakts pianos now, heard their Akoustik version was good though. Alicia's keys is fine too, but for sound and performance I go for The Grand by Steinberg. With minor tweaking I can get it sounding nice and natural...probably would never use it in a track though, too musical. Just compress the hell out of a shitty piano.

JBE · Post by **JBE** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:06 pm

Skrillex uses pianos?

bassinine · Post by **bassinine** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:16 pm

high pass it, boost around 300hz, add some long verb.

chillpenguin · Post by **chillpenguin** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:24 pm

Yeah skrillex uses abletons built in piano. I read about it in some interview. The tracks i can think of are ruffneck full flex and first of the year.

Yeah i think the key is compressing the shit out of it.

MassAphekt · Post by **MassAphekt** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:15 pm

bassinine wrote:high pass it, boost around 300hz, add some long verb.

there's no specific frequency spot to boost to make it sound better lol, it depends on what scales and octave.
add some compression, tiny bit of chorus or even minimal sample delay, very gentle cut in the low mid area, even of course a tad of reverb and mid/side equing to create a wider stereo image

lightshapers · Post by **lightshapers** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:33 pm

bust out a korg m1 and get all old skool with it

that new NI piano sounds awesome

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:49 pm

korg has always had some of the best piano sounds, the cheap casio keyboards are great too

bassinine · Post by **bassinine** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:14 pm

MassAphekt wrote:
bassinine wrote:high pass it, boost around 300hz, add some long verb.
there's no specific frequency spot to boost to make it sound better lol, it depends on what scales and octave.
add some compression, tiny bit of chorus or even minimal sample delay, very gentle cut in the low mid area, even of course a tad of reverb and mid/side equing to create a wider stereo image

no kidding. i don't feel the need to specify every single time i give someone advice: there's no RIGHT way, but this should get you on the right track...

to your advice: that's not how you make it sound bigger, the low midrange is really what makes a piano sound bigger. which is around 300hz... ever heard a grand piano before? and chorus on piano sounds is cheesy, in my opinion. and there's really no point in advising to use a compressor, because it ALSO depends on the samples/ocatave/everything else.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:29 am

I listened to the piano in those skrillex tunes and the pianos do not sound fat at all. The "fatness" is coming from something else...the pianos sound like a dry piano vst...not even realistic.

Augment · Post by **Augment** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:37 am

jrisreal wrote:I listened to the piano in those skrillex tunes and the pianos do not sound fat at all. The "fatness" is coming from something else...the pianos sound like a dry piano vst...not even realistic.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:38 am

blinkesko wrote:
jrisreal wrote:I listened to the piano in those skrillex tunes and the pianos do not sound fat at all. The "fatness" is coming from something else...the pianos sound like a dry piano vst...not even realistic.

That piano is "fatter" and more realistic...but that tune wasn't listed by the OP.

AxeD · Post by **AxeD** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:02 am

Play chords. I haven't heard Skrillex but I'm guessing he's sampling piano though.

chillpenguin · Post by **chillpenguin** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:39 pm

I listed those because they were the first that came to mind. But idk it seems fatter to me than what i get out of my ableton piano. I read in an interview that he uses ableton's piano so i just assumed that he meant for all his songs with piano. Maybe my piano isn't mixing in with everything very well so it doesn't get that fat feeling.

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