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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by YourDad » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:39 am

Sonika wrote:I'm not sure why, and stepping back and looking at my opinion it looks really dumb, but I really don't like the idea of midi controllers, laptop DJs, and the like. I'm not sure why, but I just feel like DJing should be a 2-deck one-mixer thing (or 3 or 4 decks)


I also don't like that they can just press the sync button and go in calling themselves a DJ

although I don't know why that's such a big deal to me....it just seems wrong to me....idk
Well if you aren't playing to a crowd full of elitist dj's that believe mixing is an art form that should never die out, who's going to care? As long as you are playing good tunes...

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Post by baddis98 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:01 am

it's not even about the crowd, but about myself. to me using software is pretty boring as it doesn't challenge me. it's not even half as fun to mix with a controller as using records. pressing a sync button in your software is like riding your bike with stabilisers. if it works for you, fine. but there will always be people who want to ride their bike without stabilisers, because it looks stupid and it's not that much fun.

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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by Sonika » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:26 am

fractal wrote:
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fractal wrote:he loops various beats and samples so no two shows are the same. at one time I heard elements from at least 4 different shackleton tunes together and it sounded so perfect! one of the only times I've seen the whole floor go off in seattle (lot of head nodders out here)

for the dj worshipers out there I am sure it is boring to watch a guy on a laptop, but for those who are just there for the music and the dance, all that matters is the sound

is it danceable? I love shackleton and I find a lot of tunes of his really dance-y, but if he's playing stuff like blood on my hands, then idk...great tune, not really a dancefloor-smasher though

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Extremely danceable as he's been on that techno kick for a bit now. As I said, was shocked at the amount of movement on the floor. He was beaming too, feeling the energy...

And I'll go off to BOMH, clear the floor and let a man move :mrgreen:
dubfordessert wrote:blood on my hands would go off if played at the right time. what r u on about.

Don't get me wrong, I love the tune, and I could see how one might want to end the night with it or something, but it definitely seems like a head-nodder not a dancefloor tune, especially compared with tracks like Naked or Massacre or Hypno Angel, etc


sounds like his sets are cool though :4:
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Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:30 am

^^ i'll tell you right now. you wanna clear a dance floor, play naked.
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Post by Sonika » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:33 am

Nevalo wrote:^^ i'll tell you right now. you wanna clear a dance floor, play naked.

What are you talking about? that tune is KILLER, who wouldnt dance to that? I mean yeah its intro is a bit long but not enough to lose the vibe
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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:36 am

Sonika wrote:
Nevalo wrote:^^ i'll tell you right now. you wanna clear a dance floor, play naked.

What are you talking about? that tune is KILLER, who wouldnt dance to that? I mean yeah its intro is a bit long but not enough to lose the vibe
i know. but you try and convey that to people who arent deep into the that sound.

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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by Sonika » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:37 am

Nevalo wrote:
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Nevalo wrote:^^ i'll tell you right now. you wanna clear a dance floor, play naked.

What are you talking about? that tune is KILLER, who wouldnt dance to that? I mean yeah its intro is a bit long but not enough to lose the vibe
i know. but you try and convey that to people who arent deep into the that sound.

trust.

oh gotcha, but that would be true with a lot of deep tracks probably. I thought you were talking about your personal opinion that naked wasn't dance-y
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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:39 am

Sonika wrote:
Nevalo wrote:
Sonika wrote:
Nevalo wrote:^^ i'll tell you right now. you wanna clear a dance floor, play naked.

What are you talking about? that tune is KILLER, who wouldnt dance to that? I mean yeah its intro is a bit long but not enough to lose the vibe
i know. but you try and convey that to people who arent deep into the that sound.

trust.

oh gotcha, but that would be true with a lot of deep tracks probably. I thought you were talking about your personal opinion that naked wasn't dance-y
hell no, i was speaking from experience lol.
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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by dubfordessert » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:43 pm

Sonika wrote:
fractal wrote:
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fractal wrote:he loops various beats and samples so no two shows are the same. at one time I heard elements from at least 4 different shackleton tunes together and it sounded so perfect! one of the only times I've seen the whole floor go off in seattle (lot of head nodders out here)

for the dj worshipers out there I am sure it is boring to watch a guy on a laptop, but for those who are just there for the music and the dance, all that matters is the sound

is it danceable? I love shackleton and I find a lot of tunes of his really dance-y, but if he's playing stuff like blood on my hands, then idk...great tune, not really a dancefloor-smasher though

imo
Extremely danceable as he's been on that techno kick for a bit now. As I said, was shocked at the amount of movement on the floor. He was beaming too, feeling the energy...

And I'll go off to BOMH, clear the floor and let a man move :mrgreen:
dubfordessert wrote:blood on my hands would go off if played at the right time. what r u on about.

Don't get me wrong, I love the tune, and I could see how one might want to end the night with it or something, but it definitely seems like a head-nodder not a dancefloor tune, especially compared with tracks like Naked or Massacre or Hypno Angel, etc


sounds like his sets are cool though :4:
blood on my hands is very danceable, not everything "danceable" has to be a tune everyone goes absolutely mad to you get me. some tunes draw people in slowly. definitely think it is preferable to hypno angel in that sense anyway, which has a bit of an awkward rhythm. don't think i would dance to that. actually think naked is a bit awkward too in comparison...
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Post by Sonika » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:45 pm

but the awkward rhythm on hypno angel makes it more interesting, you can still feel the rhythm, it's just inferred


anyways, I guess what I mean is it's not a tune that you would all out skank to, like, say, level nine by mala. it's more of a swaying, upper body movement tune if you get me

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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by dubfordessert » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:47 pm

interesting doesn't mean danceable though?
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Post by Sonika » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:56 pm

dubfordessert wrote:interesting doesn't mean danceable though?

yes but
Sonika wrote:you can still feel the rhythm, it's just inferred
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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by baddis98 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:04 pm

what means danceable anyways?

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Post by leyenda » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:09 pm

baddis98 wrote:what means danceable anyways?
How high a record scores on the groove-o-meter

It's what most brostep and dare I say it increasingly dungeon are lacking in
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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by dubfordessert » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:11 pm

Sonika wrote:
dubfordessert wrote:interesting doesn't mean danceable though?

yes but
Sonika wrote:you can still feel the rhythm, it's just inferred
i didn't say you couldn't feel the rhythm. i said it was an awkward rhythm.
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Post by fassyman » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:12 pm

Sonika wrote:but the awkward rhythm on hypno angel makes it more interesting, you can still feel the rhythm, it's just inferred


anyways, I guess what I mean is it's not a tune that you would all out skank to, like, say, level nine by mala. it's more of a swaying, upper body movement tune if you get me

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dancing means moving with the music

not swinging your body around as erraticly as possible

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Post by fassyman » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:14 pm

also what with analysing how you dance to certain tunes, it shouldn't be forced ro pre-meditated, just your natural movment/reaction to the tune
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Post by baddis98 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:27 pm

fassyman wrote:also what with analysing how you dance to certain tunes, it shouldn't be forced ro pre-meditated, just your natural movment/reaction to the tune
that's kind of what i wanted to say with my question. and i think it's more about if you feel a tune and not about rhythmic structure etc. most of the stuff some of my friends consider as extremely danceable make me end up at the bar right away.

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Post by dubfordessert » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:45 pm

i don't think it is. there's a shit ton of music out there that i love to death but is impossible to dance to and isn't designed to be danced to.

granted, i don't really like hypno angel, and one reason for that is its awkwardness, i LOVE naked but think blood on my hands has a more natural flow... basically all i'm saying is that the hypnotic element of tracks like that is a great thing to have in the dance and it's not all about head bangers and mental drops or whatever. obviously personal preference is a big factor though...
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Re: Coki gives up vinyl, switches to CDJs

Post by Sonika » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:59 pm

fair enough

also agree with fassyman about dancing doesnt have to be insane jumping up and down or w/e, true that

I think we're overanalyzing here, but I was simply saying that hypno angel is very danceable because within the "awkward rhythm" there is still a suggested driving rhythm that makes it easy to follow on the dancefloor
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