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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by fractal » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:57 pm

i can see your point too, and can only surmise that the vibes of the beats in question would change if the tempo was different, so i'm glad he does what he does at the speed he does it in...

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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by garethom » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:59 pm

fractal wrote:i don't mean dj's sonika, I mean club goers. Of course we can tell the difference, we have been listening for it for years. when I was a hip hop/funk/soul dj I labeled the bpms of all of my records and in doing so, gained a really good ear for bpms...
but my point was that, in the dance, if a song is good its good. no one cares what bpm it is. in my opinion tempo cults are just as bad as genre cults and just as limiting.

songs bellow 140 give the beat room to breath and move, just look at dj abstracts touch, which sits closer to 130 than 140

dj's want songs to all be the same tempo so they don't have to work, but fuck that. there's a whole spectrum of sounds and speeds out there, figure out how to mix em well!
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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by fractal » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:08 pm

ghosts of so many sounds... nail on the head there

these sounds/vibes have existed for a long time and i've been entranced by them for as long as i can remember

from dark house to jungle to wherever the fuck we are now, there's a certain "vibe" (for lack of a better word) that i have searched for and embraced across all of these genre's if that makes sense

wen pushing these vibes fwd>> for me right now :U:

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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by ultraspatial » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:34 pm

fractal wrote:but my point was that, in the dance, if a song is good its good. no one cares what bpm it is. in my opinion tempo cults are just as bad as genre cults and just as limiting.
dj's want songs to all be the same tempo so they don't have to work, but fuck that. there's a whole spectrum of sounds and speeds out there, figure out how to mix em well!
I agree that good music is good music, regardless of bpm, genre, whatever... But as for djs going all over the board, I personally don't enjoy that. Sure, there are djs who can pull it off, but I, for one, prefer one genre sets. Maybe I come across as close-minded or whatever, but that's what I like.

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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by fractal » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:44 pm

i don't think its closed mined to have a preference :)

i can enjoy a one genre or tempo set if its something special, but i can't endure a one genre or tempo night... doesn't mean i am more open minded, but it might mean that I have ADD or summat
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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by ultraspatial » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:53 pm

If you got 5 djs who play exactly the same shit yeah, it can get boring fast. Like let's say a jump up dnb night. But 5 djs playing different styles of dnb is alright in my book.

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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by Sonika » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:57 pm

Oneman spans genres really well

Yeah fractal, now i gotta get some Wen on wax too :)
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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by Jurrecane » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:21 pm

Soo yeah, having a bit of a boring night and decided to just check this out.
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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by blackdown » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:31 pm

i think the value of working at 130bpm from an ex-dubstep perspective is that those that do can come to with a fresh mind, away from the pre-conceptions of 140 bpm "dubstep", and begin to find something new that is dark, bassy but in fresh ways.
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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by Sonika » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:32 pm

^right, because it sounds DIFFERENT at 130
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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by Staley » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:48 pm

All the tunes are huge. Commotion is way too much. I think 130 beats from a dubstep perspective is really fun and refreshing. I'm way more into than regular UK Funky or that 808 Swamp 81 sound. I gotta bigup Beneath as well, who is making some killer dark 130 riddims. I can't wait to mix his stuff with some of Wen's.

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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by ultraspatial » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:55 pm

Haven't heard much dark stuff at 130 tbh, at least not 'nuum related.

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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by antipode » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:17 pm

What a stupid fucking argument. Post more Wen plz.

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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by wilson » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:42 pm

10/10.

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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by Etches828 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:31 am

I actually pitch a lot of Wen beats down to fit with mine. Sounds even better, hear those tight little bits of sound you don't quite pick up on and those heavy bass sounds fill out even nicer.

Should be collabing with him soon, we're both FL users :D ghost of sound even there, FL is pretty much the fuel of the sounds he's influenced by imo

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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by fractal » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:35 am

slow and low :U:
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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by blackdown » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:47 am

Etches828 wrote:I actually pitch a lot of Wen beats down to fit with mine.
wow what tempo you rolling at?
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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by blackdown » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:49 am

ultraspatial wrote:Haven't heard much dark stuff at 130 tbh, at least not 'nuum related.
then after the Wen mix try this mix from Beneath. And our Rinse FM show :6:
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Re: Wen: what's all the commotion about?

Post by mIrReN » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:06 am

fractal wrote:i don't mean dj's sonika, I mean club goers. Of course we can tell the difference, we have been listening for it for years. when I was a hip hop/funk/soul dj I labeled the bpms of all of my records and in doing so, gained a really good ear for bpms...
but my point was that, in the dance, if a song is good its good. no one cares what bpm it is. in my opinion tempo cults are just as bad as genre cults and just as limiting.

songs bellow 140 give the beat room to breath and move, just look at dj abstracts touch, which sits closer to 130 than 140

dj's want songs to all be the same tempo so they don't have to work, but fuck that. there's a whole spectrum of sounds and speeds out there, figure out how to mix em well!
Fractal explains it for me :x

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