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Mala - tips and tricks

Post by LouisG » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:58 pm

I thought I'd start a post about how to achieve that deep sub and roots vibes that Mala has

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Post by ehbes » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:16 pm

Interesting percussion
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Post by 3za » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:21 pm

SINEWAVE!!!
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Post by dubesteppe » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:17 am

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Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:19 am

most important thing to remember, is that you cant put man in a room with no subwoofer.
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Post by dickman69 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:00 am

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Post by Immerse » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:18 am

Nevalo wrote:most important thing to remember, is that you cant put man in a room with no subwoofer.
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Post by NinjaEdit » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:22 am

I'm kind of just guessing how you get a hard, subby kick like that. Not in order:

Layer a natural sample with a 808 kick, or with your synthesised kick (like with fruit kick or ClearDrum), or add a sinewave sample, or sidechain a gate on a subbass instrument.

Compress/limit/multiband compress.

EQ boost the fundemental.

EQ boost the transient?

Transient shaper.

Harmonic exciter?

Pitch shift/tune the kick.

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Re: Mala - tips and tricks

Post by LouisG » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:50 pm

Thanks for the replies so far - really helpful
anyone know how he keeps it all so clean cut esp that sine?

e.g. on his in luv track

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Post by LouisG » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:53 pm

To add before anyone sez it - i'm trying to imitate him I merely want to grasp an understanding of his techniques to merge with my own

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Post by deadly_habit » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:08 pm

as i recall he mentioned some spectrasonics vsts in an interview (omnisphere and trillian)
pricey but man i've been abusing em for years
trillian is great for waveforms and real bass sounds but too pricey imo, omnisphere is godly for the cost

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Post by VirtualMark » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:17 pm

deadly habit wrote:trillian is great for waveforms and real bass sounds but too pricey imo, omnisphere is godly for the cost
What do you think to the synthesis side of Omnisphere? Do you make a lot of your own presets? I've only tried it out briefly, wouldn't mind having another look sometime.

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Post by Today » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:43 pm

omni synthesis is tough to get used to but well worth it
all the cntrols are really sensitive, esp the envelopes and modulation depth
but it has amazing features and sound sources, definitely capable of some incredible patchwork

also amazing presets come with it
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Post by Today » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:45 pm

also i know it seems impossible but Trillian has by far the best bass waves around
I don't understand it myself, it seems there's nothing to a sub but a fat sine or similar type of wave/sound source, but fuchking hell they do something right in Trillian that can just shake buildings and sound incredibly warm
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Post by deadly_habit » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:52 pm

Today wrote:also i know it seems impossible but Trillian has by far the best bass waves around
I don't understand it myself, it seems there's nothing to a sub but a fat sine or similar type of wave/sound source, but fuchking hell they do something right in Trillian that can just shake buildings and sound incredibly warm
the nice thing about spectrasonic vsts is they spend years recording their waveforms and all the nuances with em (like upright bass for example)
honestly for the most part their vsts can be compared to an old school rompler, but goddamn they are so good
been using and a devout user since i first heard and used atmosphere vst

i got trillian deeply discounted and i love it, but i wouldn't pay full price

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Post by wormcode » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:04 pm

deadly habit wrote:the nice thing about spectrasonic vsts is they spend years recording their waveforms and all the nuances with em (like upright bass for example)
honestly for the most part their vsts can be compared to an old school rompler, but goddamn they are so good
been using and a devout user since i first heard and used atmosphere vst

i got trillian deeply discounted and i love it, but i wouldn't pay full price
Yeah man, I saw Herbie Hancock playing with Atmosphere years back in a documentary on him ('Possibilities'). That was the first time I saw it and ended up getting it soon after. Mala has mentioned Trillian yeah. It is pricey, and you could source many of the samples of hardware elsewhere but it's a very nice collection. Basically a ROMpler though, yeah. Still I don't think it's too expensive for what it is... if you look hard for a while you can get it for about 200 usd which I think is fair. Omnisphere is close to 500us, but AFAIK it's Trillian and Atmosphere both in 1 along with other new stuff and programming options. So might be worth springing for that instead.

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Post by deadly_habit » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:26 pm

omnisphere i think is in most of my tunes (once you have it, the library is hard not to find a pad or whatever that works, seriously omnisphere is my top vst), trillian is amazing, but i hate the cost
spectrasonics do some bro tier tutorial vids as well

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Post by wormcode » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:05 pm

deadly habit wrote:spectrasonics do some bro tier tutorial vids as well
Oops, I confused Trillian with Trilogy. Mala talked about the latter, and it's surely cheaper as well since it's the old version.

But yeah I remember the Spectrasonics crazy dubstep vids haha. I made this out of one:
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Post by deadly_habit » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:07 pm

heh yeah i loved they mentioned dubstep bass at namm -w-

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Post by Today » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:11 pm

wormcode wrote: Omnisphere is close to 500us, but AFAIK it's Trillian and Atmosphere both in 1 along with other new stuff and programming options. So might be worth springing for that instead.
it encompasses the Atmosphere preset libraries and effectively replaces Atmosphere in every way, but it isn't encompassing of Trillian
Trilogy/trillian has the synth bass waves that also live in Omni's sound source bank, plus more but Omni doesn't have all the real electric, acoustic and standup basses. including (adjustable) fret/fretboard noise, all the nuances, it's really pretty amazing for a rompler
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