"Racist Black Woman London Bus"

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:18 pm

don't worry damo, I got an earful of that when I posted that joke topic about Piers Morgan hurling himself off a bridge. There's an undercurrent of moral-superiority in this forum which rears its' ugly head now and again.

particle-jim · Post by **particle-jim** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:18 pm

magma wrote:
capo ultra wrote:regardless, the notion that women would be dying to partake in this forum if it wasn't for some seedy undercurrent of sexist ladism is utterly ridiculous.

In fact, the idea that a female would be so offended by a quite frankly so over the top it's obviously not meant to be taken literally joke is white knighting to the extreme and in my eyes rather presumptuous and sexist in itself. As if women are this precious and soft entity that need to be protected from the harsh ruffians.
Do you want me to reel off the list of previously regular female posters that have given up on the forum and/or only socialise in person now again?

It can't be a coincidence that Briony, Bela, Zena et al rarely (if ever) post here anymore

This forum is gradually turning into the "Lads and School Children Hideout", we need to purge this shit with a good old fashioned conspiracy thread

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:20 pm

particle-jim wrote:
magma wrote:
capo ultra wrote:regardless, the notion that women would be dying to partake in this forum if it wasn't for some seedy undercurrent of sexist ladism is utterly ridiculous.

In fact, the idea that a female would be so offended by a quite frankly so over the top it's obviously not meant to be taken literally joke is white knighting to the extreme and in my eyes rather presumptuous and sexist in itself. As if women are this precious and soft entity that need to be protected from the harsh ruffians.
Do you want me to reel off the list of previously regular female posters that have given up on the forum and/or only socialise in person now again?
It can't be a coincidence that Briony, Bela, Zena et al rarely (if ever) post here anymore

This forum is gradually turning into the "Lads and School Children Hideout", we need to purge this shit with a good old fashioned conspiracy thread

The forum is way better than it was when it was full of those tin-foil hat nutters. I generally presume everyone is joking about most of the time when they post something offensive/vulgar. Who cares? It's a bit of fun....

Forum · Post by **Forum** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:21 pm

Lets get back to racist women on buses...

LACE · Post by **LACE** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:21 pm

i'm all the woman this forum needs

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:23 pm

southstar wrote:Lets get back to racist women on buses...

Rosa Parks woz rasist cos lyk she woz lyk fu whyt persun u cnt hv my seet lol! reakshunery rasistlol!1

capo ultra · Post by **capo ultra** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:26 pm

LACE wrote: anywho it's not about whether it's ok or not, it's about how both their angles (white tram lady and black tram lady) are different which is what you've seemed to miss. there's no doubt that black tram lady is a racist, but one has to take into account the difference of power and position in society between both races. white racism is a bit different due to the fact that it can easily become accepted in the perceptions of all other white people which becomes truth. and it's white perception that really matters, because this is a white dominated society. i mean, its dangerous because blacks have very little power over whites.black people can't limit your opportunities institutionally. i mean in general, it's just less threatening.

totally agreed, the ladie's rant is alarming but hardly distressing, I'm not going to be as offended by someone calling me an ex-slave owner on a bus as someone telling me i don't belong on the bus because I'm black.

don't know about the others. I think they're too busy trying to make themselves look good in front of you to actually care about what you're actually saying.

LACE wrote:i'm all the woman this forum needs

big ups

particle-jim · Post by **particle-jim** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:32 pm

hugh wrote:
particle-jim wrote:
magma wrote:
capo ultra wrote:regardless, the notion that women would be dying to partake in this forum if it wasn't for some seedy undercurrent of sexist ladism is utterly ridiculous.

In fact, the idea that a female would be so offended by a quite frankly so over the top it's obviously not meant to be taken literally joke is white knighting to the extreme and in my eyes rather presumptuous and sexist in itself. As if women are this precious and soft entity that need to be protected from the harsh ruffians.
Do you want me to reel off the list of previously regular female posters that have given up on the forum and/or only socialise in person now again?
It can't be a coincidence that Briony, Bela, Zena et al rarely (if ever) post here anymore

This forum is gradually turning into the "Lads and School Children Hideout", we need to purge this shit with a good old fashioned conspiracy thread
The forum is way better than it was when it was full of those tin-foil hat nutters. I generally presume everyone is joking about most of the time when they post something offensive/vulgar. Who cares? It's a bit of fun....

I just find it a bit sad that people I know personally and consider friends are being put off by a lot of what gets posted here. I've met some wicked people on this forum and some of them have become really good mates, the idea that people no longer want to be a part of this forum because of some of the attitudes on here is actually a bit upsetting to those of us who are mates irl, dont really care if "it's a bit of fun" or not, people are being turned off by it and the place is less vibrant and interesting as a result

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:32 pm

capo ultra wrote:
LACE wrote: anywho it's not about whether it's ok or not, it's about how both their angles (white tram lady and black tram lady) are different which is what you've seemed to miss. there's no doubt that black tram lady is a racist, but one has to take into account the difference of power and position in society between both races. white racism is a bit different due to the fact that it can easily become accepted in the perceptions of all other white people which becomes truth. and it's white perception that really matters, because this is a white dominated society. i mean, its dangerous because blacks have very little power over whites.black people can't limit your opportunities institutionally. i mean in general, it's just less threatening.
totally agreed, the ladie's rant is alarming but hardly distressing, I'm not going to be as offended by someone calling me an ex-slave owner on a bus as someone telling me i don't belong on the bus because I'm black.

don't know about the others. I think they're too busy trying to make themselves look good in front of you to actually care about what you're actually saying.

LACE wrote:i'm all the woman this forum needs
big ups

The problem is calling a white person an "ex slave owner" isn't racist.
It's stupid.
/thread

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:38 pm

particle-jim wrote:
hugh wrote:
particle-jim wrote:
magma wrote:
capo ultra wrote:regardless, the notion that women would be dying to partake in this forum if it wasn't for some seedy undercurrent of sexist ladism is utterly ridiculous.

In fact, the idea that a female would be so offended by a quite frankly so over the top it's obviously not meant to be taken literally joke is white knighting to the extreme and in my eyes rather presumptuous and sexist in itself. As if women are this precious and soft entity that need to be protected from the harsh ruffians.
Do you want me to reel off the list of previously regular female posters that have given up on the forum and/or only socialise in person now again?
It can't be a coincidence that Briony, Bela, Zena et al rarely (if ever) post here anymore

This forum is gradually turning into the "Lads and School Children Hideout", we need to purge this shit with a good old fashioned conspiracy thread
The forum is way better than it was when it was full of those tin-foil hat nutters. I generally presume everyone is joking about most of the time when they post something offensive/vulgar. Who cares? It's a bit of fun....
I just find it a bit sad that people I know personally and consider friends are being put off by a lot of what gets posted here. I've met some wicked people on this forum and some of them have become really good mates, the idea that people no longer want to be a part of this forum because of some of the attitudes on here is actually a bit upsetting to those of us who are mates irl, dont really care if "it's a bit of fun" or not, people are being turned off by it and the place is less vibrant and interesting as a result

I don't really know what you are talking about anyway, I was off this forum for a long time (just got bored, it was inactive and every other thread was some stupid crap about pyramids or something, plus it became REALLY clique-ish)
Seems much better now? Or could you actually give me some real names of people who are actually upset by the forum so often that they stopped visiting? Cos if that's the case maybe you should just stay in touch with them via normal social means. We are candles in the wind, and this is the internet.

particle-jim · Post by **particle-jim** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:38 pm

hugh wrote:maybe you should just stay in touch with them via normal social means

I do

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:39 pm

so what's the problem, I don't get it. If you miss them, go and do something with them.

capo ultra · Post by **capo ultra** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:39 pm

being sad cos someone doesn't waste their time posting meaningless words on a forum instead of meeting them in real life

first world problems

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:39 pm

capo ultra wrote:being sad cos someone doesn't waste their time posting meaningless words on a forum instead of meeting them in real life

first world problems

I was trying to find a kinder way of putting it

capo ultra · Post by **capo ultra** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:41 pm

why is always the new people that always complain about things 'changing'? things haven't changed apart from some people have decided to move on with their lives. Deal with it, you sound like you need counselling or something

some people need to go back and read JJs posts back in the original days and then try to tell me things have got progressively more childish since then

noam · Post by **noam** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:50 pm

out of all my mates

and i mean every single one of them

there's only 2 or 3 of us who ever use forums and only 2 who regularly post on any at all

and none of them are girls, and i could give a flying fuck whether there's girls on here or not, i dont come on here to chat to girls, i come on here to post stuff about topics that people start and there are plenty of interesting and different opinions on here still to make it worth coming back

all this crap about lack of female posters is the same bunch of people who see each other every week at nights wanting this place to be just like their own scenes, its quite funny tbh

having met briony and bela and jasmine et al if they're all really offended by the lad chat (which tbf, is fairly non-existent... save for Gwa which is just pure jokes) then dont post lol oh well

particle-jim · Post by **particle-jim** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:53 pm

capo ultra wrote:you sound like you need counselling or something

There was really no need for that sentence at all, I wasn't calling anyone out or having a go at anyone in particular, no need to respond with character judgements based on a few words on a screen

capo ultra · Post by **capo ultra** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:54 pm

you really do sound like you need counselling now.

bela · Post by **bela** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:58 pm

tbh if anything is most off-putting about the forum it's just that it's become a lot more juvenile than back when i was more frequently posting, & feels like it is being polluted by a handful of users (no offense to anyone -- i just don't want to scroll through pages of conversation that are probably better suited for PMs).

granted, a lot of you are still sexist and too comfortable in that perspective to consider why it could be offensive in the first place

noam · Post by **noam** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:00 pm

i just dont see it bela, maybe thats why but tbf i like to think im pretty egalitarian when it comes to gender but if im blind to it maybe im not eh

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