DMZ 12!

randomhed · Post by **randomhed** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:39 pm

I do stress out about the amount of money i spend on vinyl but i look at it like this.
My missus spends about 2 grand a year on cigarettes and has nowt to show for it except bad lungs. I probably spend 1800 a year on vinyl, but i have got something to show and enjoy for the money ive spent.

Bare in mind thou i am a junky, and all junkies will justify their addiction with some feeble excuse like the one above.

VINYL ....JUST SAY NO!

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:52 pm

any sightings in real life shops in london yet?

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:39 pm

Bob Crunkhouse wrote:
incyde wrote:
Bob Crunkhouse wrote: imo any record comapny that dosent put out a digital release has no right to complain about people illegally downloading there music.
i have to disagree with you there. if a label makes a choice to make their music available only on vinyl, then it's their right to keep it that way, as they are the sole owners of the recording and can choose to release it/not release it on whichever format they choose.
i do understand that mate, and in a perfect world you'd be right. Fact is people love mp3's and stuff will get ripped and uploaded. imo you got two choices, to sit back and let it happen and not complain or do something about it and give people who dont buyt vinyl a choice to support artists.

good point man. i feel ya.

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:40 pm

BM said they don't have any til perhaps tomorrow

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:47 pm

Bob Crunkhouse wrote:to be fair though i ahvent seen DMZ or Tempa say anything about illegal downloads, jsut people on this board really...

They aint making much money on 12"s, so a download makes no mark on them really.

Shoot me if you want, its just my opinion.

Oh yeh, support your local record shop though...before we have to buy online.

randomhed · Post by **randomhed** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:53 pm

Its suprising that most labels dont put out mp3 releases as standard. Theres are market / demand for them, its a cheaper outlay from what ive been told, and it would curb against some piracy.

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:59 pm

Thomas wrote:
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:to be fair though i ahvent seen DMZ or Tempa say anything about illegal downloads, jsut people on this board really...
They aint making much money on 12"s, so a download makes no mark on them really.

Shoot me if you want, its just my opinion.

Oh yeh, support your local record shop though...before we have to buy online.

yeh understand that, i think it just reinforces my point that its beneficial for everyone though. The host site will take a cut (bleep, beatport etc) but after that its all profit to split between artist/label, theres no other costs (i guess).

im all for local record shops too....

i dont wanna shoot u mate

7" · Post by 7" » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:24 pm

to see a great piece of music we truely like on wax is always pleasant and to keep a vinyl in our box is a good feelin' but i cant see why some labels doesnt release their catalogue in a digital format at the same time, there are people that doesnt give a shit about djing and doesnt even owns a turntable to play it and either way they want to listen to it... no matter how, surely that this kind of big labels in the scene dont need to release their music in a digital format because the real thing gives them the real money.
therefore there are people that needs to download illegal stuff cos they cant do it some other way.

jim · Post by **jim** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:34 pm

Bob Crunkhouse wrote: imo any record comapny that dosent put out a digital release has no right to complain about people illegally downloading there music.

.

No.

jim · Post by **jim** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:35 pm

Bob Crunkhouse wrote:
people miss out on nothing.....trust me.

the sad thing is theres no choice.

You can buy a cheap turntable for under £100. There is a choice.

randomhed · Post by **randomhed** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:39 pm

jim wrote:
Bob Crunkhouse wrote: imo any record comapny that dosent put out a digital release has no right to complain about people illegally downloading there music.

.
No.

Agreed, its still wrong and shouldnt be done.

jim wrote:
Bob Crunkhouse wrote:
people miss out on nothing.....trust me.

the sad thing is theres no choice.
You can buy a cheap turntable for under £100. There is a choice.

But still some people cant afford to be paying 6 quid a time for maybe only 1 tune that there after. What choice are they left with? Go without or download for nothing.

jim · Post by **jim** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:41 pm

I'm hardly swimming in it, I just only buy stuff I really like. I don't see how legal downloads really offer people without record players a better alternative, they're just getting an mp3 for money that they could get for free anyway.

randomhed · Post by **randomhed** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:45 pm

But any conciencious person who appreciates their music will happily support the scene by paying for a tune. If people are willing to pay, it seems mad not to provide an alternative form.

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:17 pm

randomhed wrote:But any conciencious person who appreciates their music will happily support the scene by paying for a tune. If people are willing to pay, it seems mad not to provide an alternative form.

Unless there is another reason, companys arn't stupid. I'm sure they give this much thought.

I don't want to speculate, because i only have my crazy reasons/ideas. But give it a think

randomhed · Post by **randomhed** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:35 am

Thomas wrote: I don't want to speculate, because i only have my crazy reasons/ideas. But give it a think

Im intrigued, care to share your ideas?

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:27 am

Well if artists are willing to keep dubs to themselves and a select few, it makes sence that there is a possibility companies might want to keep the number of their tracks flying around ending up everyware.

You cant arrange 12 12"s into a CD and burn it for your car, but you can with MP3's....maybe they plan compilations one day.

fushimi · Post by **fushimi** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:43 am

I think you're overestimating what dubstep labels are. They're nearly all 1 person with a full time job trying to find time to make tunes, let alone release them. Vinyl pressings are still very small. If you made a PC program that 500 people used would you bother making a Mac version if the whole raison d'etre of the program was for PCs, you didn't use a Mac, and all the people you knew used the PC version? I think if the process of releasing an mp3 version was incredibly easy to do, non-time consuming and noticably lucrative then all dubstep labels would do it. As it is, it's a sideline which producers can't relate to, and isn't lucrative - after all, if the DMZ releases on bleep were making a lot of money then the others would be up there.

No dubstep labels (except maybe the relatively big ones) are in it for the money, and aren't even considering any other kind of release but vinyl.

dgg · Post by **dgg** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:19 pm

What extra work is needed to create an mp3 once the tune is made? Isn't it pretty much 'Save as...' and you're done?

Most dubstep labels do sell digital releases and have been doing so for some time, so they obviuosly have no problem with the concept itself. I guess it's simply not that profitable, since some labels seem to be losing interest in it. Too bad.

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:56 pm

Look I'm sure this is all very interesting but has anyone got the record yet?

The clip on Boomkat of Lean Fwd sounds a bit diff to the one we're used to. Could just be I've only ever heard while bouncing around the room.

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:03 pm

it doesnt sound any different to me. only a tad less powerful due to the sound reproduction equipment available in my flat.

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