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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by Bassf4ce » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:27 pm

JockMCPlop wrote:
Bassf4ce wrote: Here is my cleaned up mix and added some stuff to my midrange. I am woundering if:
1. The mix is good.
2. If my drop has any grove. I am mainly talking about rhythm of my lfo.The drums will be worked on so it has more variation.
3. And if my sub bass is to loud. Assuming there can be too much bass :lol:
4. If anyone else hears those annoying high mids piercing sounds during the drop

OK i am pretty much a dubstep newbie but i will try to answer your questions...
1. The mix generally sounds like there are some frequencies missing. I mean not stuff that can be EQ'ed into your mix, but more that your song needs more stuff in it. One bass, a sub a kick, a snare and a hihat just doesn't seem enough to fill up a mix, if you catch my drift. Maybe there's other stuff real quiet in there, but i couldn't hear it.
2. The LFO works pretty nicely, but as you say the drums need a lot of work.
3. Maybe the sub could come down a little, but until your drums have been worked on it doesn't really matter.
4. No i don't hear them, but i'm not using a monitor, i'm just listening on headphones.
Yea I will be adding pads, strings, and such but I don't really know what my song is about yet; I am waiting till I come up with something before I make the instruments that give off more feels (if that makes sense).
I am using some Klipsch speakers (Think they are for desktop because they have subs built in them) and I am hearing them. Maybe my brain is messing with me.
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Post by zorboT » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:08 am

@wewuk - i'm really liking the ambience of the track 'brewing' dude, it feels as if i'm in the sewers as a ninja turtle or something haha :D keep it up :)
@foldnine - the intro was fan-diddily-tastic :) drop made me cream a little lol... all round good selection of sounds :D
@eyesic - i enjoyed the intro of 'chemistry', nice and flangy :) bass is extraodinary, adds that groove to it... great snare and hi hats :) nicely done

now regarding myself... tips are highly appreciated... criticise away :D
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Post by Brandice » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:25 pm

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okay guys. i made two wips yesterday and they are completely different vibes. would love for feedback on either one.
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The intro is very enjoyable, although simple. I like the frequency shifting stab sound in the background. I didn't really like the build up with the kick drum looping. At first I thought the plucky lead thing was dull and the melody didn't fit in but after a few listens it sounds just fine. Mid bass is nice and punchy! Drop bass (in start of each pattern) is ok but needs more power. Kick drum sounds very low passed throughout whole track.
Bassf4ce wrote:@Eye-siC -
Here is my cleaned up mix and added some stuff to my midrange. I am woundering if:
1. The mix is good.
2. If my drop has any grove. I am mainly talking about rhythm of my lfo.The drums will be worked on so it has more variation.
3. And if my sub bass is to loud. Assuming there can be too much bass :lol:
4. If anyone else hears those annoying high mids piercing sounds during the drop

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1st impression: The pluck is cheesy as hell. Change it or add some effects to it. Hmm, the kick sounds lowpassed (in this aswell..?). Snare's ok though. The main bass sounds good but it sounds very lonely as there's barely anything playing along with it.

My advice would be to add some percussion sounds to it. Bring in more instruments. Use reverb on the pluck. Delay stuff. Do some miracles.
JockMCPlop wrote: OK so i gave up on my first attempt at dubstep because i thought that the tune itself was pretty bad, so why polish a turd right?
I have decided to give the more chilled out vibe that most of you guys are going for a shot.

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Is there anything i'm doing drastically wrong here? I mean i kinda want to stay within dubstep convention for now, so is there anything in this tune that immediately makes you think that it shouldn't be there?

I'm having a lot of trouble with sub bass for some reason. Both the programming of something that sounds good and getting it to sit right in the mix. If anyone can hear something that i'm doing wrong help would be greatly appreciated.


thanks :)
Very quiet and ambient overall. Very nice vocals! Can't come up with anything else to say. >.> Sorry. I guess this "original" dubstep's just not my thing.

Here's mine!: https://www.box.com/s/uashw29twumimkave08s (No soundcloud for WIP, sorry.) Opinions? Tips? Advice? It's very house-ish so far but I'm thinking of bringing in some wobbles.
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Post by Ficticious » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:31 pm

so I'm back with a short WIP while I wait for my other tune. For the record, I have given tons of feedback without getting any back so far :). but I've listened to everyone's tunes anyway.

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Post by mattdesl » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:03 am

Bassf4ce - The intro synth sounds a little out-of-the-box. I'd work on distortion and layering to get it sounding a bit more unique. The bass sounds a little all over the place… Hard to follow. Maybe a shorter and more notable pattern, broken into chunks would work better. Also the lack of percussion (except the hi hat and subtle kick) makes it seem a little stale.

Eye-siC - "chemistry" intro is very nice. Lots of cool quirks -- nice kick reverse, etc. Digging the drop. The stabs seem a little out of place -- maybe slightly too overbearing? Overall really wicked tune with lots of nice production value. "rooted" is even better IMO, more chill and up my alley.

JockMCPlop - this is fucking smooth. no real critique just wanted to say i like the vibe and had to download it. do you have a music background?


Here is a rather old tune that I want to re-visit, and I'd appreciate any feedback on whether I'm going in the right direction with it or not.
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Post by Ficticious » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:36 am

mattdesl wrote:Bassf4ce - The intro synth sounds a little out-of-the-box. I'd work on distortion and layering to get it sounding a bit more unique. The bass sounds a little all over the place… Hard to follow. Maybe a shorter and more notable pattern, broken into chunks would work better. Also the lack of percussion (except the hi hat and subtle kick) makes it seem a little stale.

Eye-siC - "chemistry" intro is very nice. Lots of cool quirks -- nice kick reverse, etc. Digging the drop. The stabs seem a little out of place -- maybe slightly too overbearing? Overall really wicked tune with lots of nice production value. "rooted" is even better IMO, more chill and up my alley.

JockMCPlop - this is fucking smooth. no real critique just wanted to say i like the vibe and had to download it. do you have a music background?


Here is a rather old tune that I want to re-visit, and I'd appreciate any feedback on whether I'm going in the right direction with it or not.
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Post by wewuk » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:42 am

@ficticious no you're not but you're coming over as if you're begging. Not cool dude :).
at the track you posted. I actually like it, the high picht sounds at 0.38 are really annoying I would ditfch those. the stutter at 0.47 i'm not feeling either. the vocal sample after that is really nice. and i'm liking the rythm of the song. the end of it I would cut.

@eye-siCi'm liking the percussion of the track. I do feel the kick is indeed not giving enough presence in this track. i'm missing an overal feeling of variation.
after the second drop when you don't have the melody I would like to have some other sounds fill up that empty space. The riser is nice. (this is for chemistry)

@zorbot try to give feedback first :)
@JockMCPlop you're not doing anything wrong, but staying within the 'dubstep convention' I mean listen to this and then to a mala - lean fwd. both would count as dubstep, both the same? NAH ;) you catch my drift.

on the track itself. the eerie vocal sample is v. nice gives me a bit of shiffers. nothing wrong with the track, although i'm missing some stuff, maybe a bit more different sounds added? I do like the soft pad in the background.

with the last feedback I added a WIP didn't like it, got rid of it and here is the new version of it.
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Post by Ficticious » Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:19 pm

Harsh. and I'm not begging, just looking for some rightful feedback after giving a bunch without posting a tune for any :lol: call it more of a reminder so I don't get the "Post 3 feedback first" . Thanks for the feedback though, appreciate it.
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Post by JTL » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:29 pm

@zorbot I think individually the parts are well made but the song seems to lack some cohesion for me. The synthwork is very impressive, but the main melodic lead is out of key with the rest of the track and doesn't have enough of a catchyness to it imo. The drums are great, nice verb and processing, coming out punchy, don't go overboard with the fx though! All in all, I enjoyed this track but I would alter the key of the melodic line and integrate it better, right now it seems as if it's just sitting on 'top' of the rest of the tune. Sorry if that was a little confusing!

@fictitious Interesting, although perhaps a little muffled, I suppose you're going for that lowpassed feel. Drums sound great although again, not particularly 'present' in the mix. The bass is nice, it's certainly experimental! Where's the vocal from I recognise it? Yeah I can dig this, it just seems that although it's moody and dark it lacks any real direction, seems to drag a bit. I think it'd be good for a build up or intro to something more substantial. I liked this though because it's pretty unique compared to the rest of the stuff you hear here. Well done!

@mattdesi Immediately liking the Chord / LFO'd progression. Silky smooth pads, nice build here. Loving the lowpassed kick, nice subtle hats. It's a BIT trancey for me with the cut off turned up like that. I'd be interested in hearing some more variation in the melodic line, something even more euphoric building off the 4 bars of repeated lead you've got throughout, perhaps bring it up an octave? It's nice, the plucking guitar type sound is a great add. All in all I think it shows promise, really needs a vocal as right now it's too plain to sustain my interest. Nice though , enjoyed it, listened all the way through.

@wewuk Very dark / moody intro, nice. I think the snare is too rocky / acoustic for my tastes. I think this would be superb for a scene in a movie. I don't feel like it's interesting enough in its melodic progression to really keep me interested. Very repetetive. At the breakdown now, love the perc that's come in. Yeah this is chilled, growing on me. Nice use of verb. I actually like this, not digging those high pitched string stabs though. All in all, I thought this was quite nice, if a bit repetetive, it seems kinda like the end of a tune.. or an album?

My track is a bit of a UKG/90s vibe. Getting a decent response at the moment, so I'd be really happy to hear your feedback:
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Will almost definitely drop the piano section at the end as it doesn't really fit.

Thanks in advance guys!

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Post by Ficticious » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:07 pm

Thanks man. The vocal if you mean the girl is actually someone I asked to personally say it for me, I pitched her voice and changed it up. If you mean"what's this knob do" it's from Fl I think lol.

Will take your guys feedback into consideration and work in a bigger intro & mix it down a little better then.

Where's it drag on? Can I get times?

Also added an intro.
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Post by adover » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:50 pm

@jtl - liking the intro, giving me a good feeling about this track! Nice organ, sounds very clean - reverb sounds like just the right amount, beat when it comes in sounds good, a little bit loose though, maybe compress it down a bit more. The organ annoys me a little bit when it does the "da da da" bit at the same note, it only seems to do it once though! Excellent use of vocals, I can see why it's getting a good reception from people, expect to hear tunes of that standard on annie mac's show on a friday night!

@wewuk - very dark tune - like how you've done it - loads of tension! Not keen on the snare tbf, feel like it's a bit weak. Nice use of pad sounds to make a really eerie effect. Fatten up the beat a bit and it'll sound sweet.

@mattdeal - nice start, feels like it speeds up a bit? Love that sort of noise though. Sounds nice when it drops, reckon the bass could have more hi's on them to tear through the mix a bit, but the tune's nicely progressive, enjoyable to listen to :)

And now for my latest track, spent ages confused trying to get good stuff that fitted and broke it and fixed it more times than i care to remember! As much feedback as always is welcome :)
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Post by Sparky » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:36 pm

@zorbot I like the idea of blending genres like that! :D innovative and different! I will say that the snare kind of stung my ears due to the high end or the volume, so I'd say cut it down a dB or two or Eq out just a bit of that high end

@mattdsi Love that kick and I love the sawish lead that slowly comes in from the background! Sounds very vintage and chill! Very nice! Keep at it!

@JTL nice Chicago House kinda vibe! Really dig it! Only thing I can really suggest is bring down that open HH by about .5dB-1dB, and maybe give your kick a LITTLE boost on the high end(:



NOW THEN! Here is a new track that I'm working on, and I'm planning on adding vocals(more than likely female or vocoder) after the break that you hear as it starts to fade out. Would love feedback :D

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Post by DUZ1 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:18 pm

@Sparky - at 10s the synth starts a chord progression, I really like it as it is but you could set it to an way that could make us feel (more) the frequency, maybe louder, idk, you know? I love it! You're on the right way!
@adover - The melody don't changes much, intentionally? I think that it could be more interesting with some crazy things at the middle.
@JTL - You need to change somethings in the drums. At the beginning 33s ~ 1:34 I was almost sleeping, improve the drums. I love that style, could be very good if you do the right things at the mix, eq and master.


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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:35 pm

you need to give feedback to three people first
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Post by DUZ1 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:26 am

BudSpencertron wrote:you need to give feedback to three people first
this forum is like karma if you are doing good you will get more out of it
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Oopss! I didn't read the first post completely. I'm sorry!

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Post by MaZa1 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:11 pm

@adover: Nice intro. Drums sound nice and fitting to the rest of the track. But maybe some variations could be nice too.
@Sparky: I like that main synth and melody. Mixing sounds nice, maybe that background sound after the drop is bit too loud. Or maybe not :D
@DUZ1:The track has nice idea, but i think snare should be louder. Also is some sounds sidechained to others? Because it sounds like when 1 comes in rest of the sounds just duck behind it too much. Cant really explain it very well..

Heres mine, i've been trying to make more brostep-ish track but now i decided to try something deeper or w/e. Dunno about the intro, mainly im now consentrading to the main loop or verse or w/e its called.

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Post by chapel » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:43 pm

@adover: yup, cool. In my opinion, two points can be better : maybe it need more low-end freq in the bassline and i'm not a big fan of the filter between 0:30 and 0:40
@maza1: i like this deep style, but it sounds a little empty, maybe you just have to add an element with some variations, some deep and long/short basslines maybe?
@duz1: yes, this is a cool one. I think your work is done on this one. But if i have one point to improve, it will be the 0:40 - 0:50 part, just changing this "du - du - dudu- du" instrument

It's just my opinion, of course :) (and sorry if my english sucks...)

To finish, here is mine, it's actually very WIP at this moment, I know it corresponds to the music style I want to give, but i don't find exactly what are the points to improve in my mix and in the evolution of the track? Any ideas about this? And your general feeling about the track?
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Post by Joe-0121 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:42 pm

ez all
@DUZ1 Yeh I think chapel has a point, that du du bit is a bit eurotrancey, other than that I'd say the tune is well on its way. The breakdown at the 1.54 mark is spot on but I think you could something more interesting instead of the kick drum roll at 2.27, your production style otherwise is really kl man.
@MaZa1 Taking into consideration you haven't put much attention into the intro the main loop of your track works really well, maybe some more layering and compressing of your snare but thats just personal preference I guess. You could definitely extract some of the elements of the main beat and use them as building elements for your intro. I like where its going.
@chapel Intro really left me wondering what this track was going to give and the drop was really different to anything I've heard. It grew on me as I listened on and Its got good movement, if that makes sense. Perhaps add some more textures, use synth stabs like percussion or sample something, at the moment there isn't very much going on during the main verse's. Something at a higher frequency to lift the track slightly if that makes sense.

I really enjoyed listening to all of the tracks, they all struck me as being original and unlike much I've heard before.

Here's my wip, been working on it for quite a while and into mixing down stages, although definitely open to new suggestions at any part of the production process..
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Post by Cubicle » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:54 pm

Hi there again!

@ Chapel;:
Needs more pads/Elements in it to give it more vibe.
It gets really repetitive after a while tho.
Mix seems fine through my ears.

@ MaZa1:
Love the delay but I feel the intro could use some more percussion already. There is no real buildup in it to bring it to the 'drop'.
Track is really empty tbh. It begs for a bassline man.

@ DUZ1:
Some sounds need a bit more looking in the mix. Kick sounds spot on tho. Did you automate the volume? Cause it feels like it spiking with some synths and that could be really tiresome for the listener.
Nice track mate!

@ Sparky:
Perfect atmosphere for that intro. Vocals on that part would be sick. Drums sound crisp aswel. Can't really give any constructive criticism.

@ Adover:
Intro reminds me of Limp Bizkit and I don't really know why.
Main bassline needs to be a bit higher in the mix. Bit more highs and seems a bit too low.
Drums sound good to me.
It's 3 minutes of the same bassline/Drums/hats. Try bringing in some breaks. Some change-ups.

@JTL:
Sick track man. Can't really think of anything to comment on.
Really love those vocals man.

@Wewuk:
Kick seems to be too heavy. Snare seems really stock. And there isn't really much of a build-up or anything to keep the listener entertained.
I'm sorry to give you so much negative feedback but I hope you consider it constructive.

@ Mattdesl:
Good atmosphere. Nice filter-work.
Drums seem to stick out. Love the vibe on this man. Drums sound spot on aswel.

@ ZorboT:
MAN I love that clav and I find it a REAL shame that you wreck that groove with such synths and drums.
Some of your synths are sick tho but the clav doesn't really fit the picture.

@ JockMCPlop:
Those drums are sick tho. I can't really hear a lot of sub bass, don't know if that just my fucking shit monitors that broke down.
You can't go wrong with a sine wave. And to make sure it doesn't interfere with anything I usually high cut it to 90 Hz.
Keep at it man, good things to come from you, I'm sure.

@ Bassf4ce:
Intro seems a bit empty, seemed like you didn't stick your time into designing a decent pluck sound.
Snare could use some reverb and more 200Hz.
Only thing that is reaaaally annoying me the fuck out is that kick.
Did you high-cut it to like 120 Hz because there is nothing of it left except for the shit annoying thumb. Pardon my french.
Drums need a lot of more space and movement and the hats could be a bit more creative aswel, my honest opinion.
Sorry for so much negative feedback. Please take it as constructive criticism.


So, now for my track. Been fiddling around with this whole 'new' trap hype that's been going on lately and I decided I would have my go at it. This was definitly one of the most fun projects I worked on and improved my mixing a shitload.
I would love to have some feedback on production/mixing and even mastering.
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Post by trepoz » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:52 pm

@chapel I agree with joe-0121 on this one. Really like it, it's nice flowing but the track could maybe use a little bit more variation.
@joe-0121 Good build on the song, Really like the drum pattern on the end!
@Maza1 Mental Song! really like it, just fill up the intro a little bit more cause it sounds a little bit too empty.


And this is my song. I'm pretty new to the production world and just wanted to know if i'm doing alright?
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