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splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by ephyks » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:16 pm

So I'm trying to pull out some of those really grimy reese sounds.

Do I, split the low-mid & mid-high (2 splits), or the low, mid, and high (3 splits). I feel like I might lose the bulk of the movement from the sound if I split all 3 and process the mids and highs separately.

Anyone suggestions?
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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Sinfected » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:10 pm

Depends on the sound really. Ask yourself why you are splitting it in the first place. I find splitting it into sub > everything over like 150 or so usually do the job if youre just after beefing up the sound. if you're getting into chorus and flanging and that type of stuff, a low/mid/high might be more suitable.

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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Genevieve » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:30 pm

Do both and see what you like best.
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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by sunny_b_uk » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:19 am

i think freq splitting takes too long, maybe try making a good simple fx chain.. for example flangers then distortion and notch filters at the end can do the job and sound very clean

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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Crysist » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:20 pm

ephyks wrote:So I'm trying to pull out some of those really grimy reese sounds.

Do I, split the low-mid & mid-high (2 splits), or the low, mid, and high (3 splits). I feel like I might lose the bulk of the movement from the sound if I split all 3 and process the mids and highs separately.

Anyone suggestions?
This is a Reece I created, freq split into high, mids, lows, and have different effect chains on each. Very intricate but very effective.
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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Mr 50 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:11 am

Crysist wrote:This is a Reece I created, freq split into high, mids, lows, and have different effect chains on each. Very intricate but very effective.
http://soundcloud.com/acetoneofficial/dare
Prepare yourself ;)
That does sound nice, mind a quick explanation of the processing you did?
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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Crysist » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:05 am

Mr 50 wrote:
Crysist wrote:This is a Reece I created, freq split into high, mids, lows, and have different effect chains on each. Very intricate but very effective.
http://soundcloud.com/acetoneofficial/dare
Prepare yourself ;)
That does sound nice, mind a quick explanation of the processing you did?
thanks :)
this bass was created in reasons thor.
i have 2 notches, 2 band pass' a low pass and a high pass filter.
they are all automated using the bp to obviously emphasise certain frequencies and the notches to cut and sweep the mids. I've then split the frequencies into highs mids and lows.
the highs have saturation, phase, chorus distortion
the mids have saturation, phase, chorus, saturation, distortion, wow filter, freq shifter
the lows have just have a slight duration boost and compression.
all then have surgical EQ to create headroom in the mix :4:

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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Mr 50 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:07 am

Crysist wrote:
Mr 50 wrote:
Crysist wrote:This is a Reece I created, freq split into high, mids, lows, and have different effect chains on each. Very intricate but very effective.
http://soundcloud.com/acetoneofficial/dare
Prepare yourself ;)
That does sound nice, mind a quick explanation of the processing you did?
thanks :)
this bass was created in reasons thor.
i have 2 notches, 2 band pass' a low pass and a high pass filter.
they are all automated using the bp to obviously emphasise certain frequencies and the notches to cut and sweep the mids. I've then split the frequencies into highs mids and lows.
the highs have saturation, phase, chorus distortion
the mids have saturation, phase, chorus, saturation, distortion, wow filter, freq shifter
the lows have just have a slight duration boost and compression.
all then have surgical EQ to create headroom in the mix :4:
5 filters... If this was done on an EQ rather than separate filters, I'd love to see the curves move as the automation kicks in - I bet it goes mental!

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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Maxxan » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:40 am

You can split it into two channels, low and mid/hi first, then process mid/hi slightly to get the movement and then send that channel into separate mid and high to add some more effects after that, separate distortion etc. Then you put the processed mid/high back in with the lows and add whatever you want to the whole mix.
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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Ficticious » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:48 am

Example of how grimy you want it?

Like the DNB/Droning grimy bass sound or the really bit-crushed sounding stuff?
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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Crysist » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:07 pm

Haha it goes nuts tbh. They are all separate fab filter Eqs :)

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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Mr 50 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:01 pm

Crysist wrote:Haha it goes nuts tbh. They are all separate fab filter Eqs :)
I've always liked the look of FabFilter EQ - I know it looks nice, but is it worth the cash?? Looking for a staple go to EQ
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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by OfficialDAPT » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:23 pm

Mr 50 wrote:
Crysist wrote:Haha it goes nuts tbh. They are all separate fab filter Eqs :)
I've always liked the look of FabFilter EQ - I know it looks nice, but is it worth the cash?? Looking for a staple go to EQ
It's nice to have a spectrum right on the EQ, since I use ableton I don't have that. If you're in logic though I can't see how it would be much better than the stock plugin. It does look and feel nice though but not nice enough to drop cash on IMO.
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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by sunny_b_uk » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:02 pm

OfficialDAPT wrote:
Mr 50 wrote:
Crysist wrote:Haha it goes nuts tbh. They are all separate fab filter Eqs :)
I've always liked the look of FabFilter EQ - I know it looks nice, but is it worth the cash?? Looking for a staple go to EQ
It's nice to have a spectrum right on the EQ, since I use ableton I don't have that. If you're in logic though I can't see how it would be much better than the stock plugin. It does look and feel nice though but not nice enough to drop cash on IMO.
i like EQuality/EQuick theyre both amazing.
in EQuality theres useful parameters that i haven't seen in other plugins.. for example you can change all of the bands frequency, gain & Q simultaneously (i find that useful since i heavily rely on FX plugins for sound design)
+ they have nice analysers as well :)

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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Crysist » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:43 pm

OfficialDAPT wrote:
Mr 50 wrote:
Crysist wrote:Haha it goes nuts tbh. They are all separate fab filter Eqs :)
I've always liked the look of FabFilter EQ - I know it looks nice, but is it worth the cash?? Looking for a staple go to EQ
It's nice to have a spectrum right on the EQ, since I use ableton I don't have that. If you're in logic though I can't see how it would be much better than the stock plugin. It does look and feel nice though but not nice enough to drop cash on IMO.
It really comes down to taste. I'm on ableton and have found its EQ8 extremely subtle. Fab filter I have just found great for its EQ range, and when it comes to surgical EQing like I use on every sound I make, it's nice to only have to use one filter plugin.
The spectrum is really on the ball too. It shows everything that your filters are doing which I need when it comes to my sounds.
In saying this, I tried fab and loved it straight away, so I haven't tried anything else.
It really is about taste, but definitely give it a go. :W:

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Re: splitting frequencies 2 or 3 times?

Post by Sure_Fire » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:45 pm

I've found having different instances of a particular synth is the best way to go. That's how I've got some of my best reese basses, I have three massives, one doing the low end and most of the disortion, one harmonically rich 'wet' sounding and a third filling out the mid range. 1 and 3 are distorted with ohmicide, the 2nd has a WOW filter on it, with the resonance down to about half. After that, it's just a shitload of independant modulating to get the synths working together nicely.

Then some EQ'ing, maximising compression, waveshaping dirtortion, small reverb (with diffusion at about half) on the master track. I usually find I don't need to resample/frequency split, unless I'm going for a nosia kind of reese, in which case I'll layer and FS like a mofo. Oh and you can use stereo enhancers/shapers/separation, but I'm not a fan, I'd rather resample/layer and pan properly.

Sounds like a lot of work, cos it is. The results are awesome though, check the reese at the start of this song, I basically just described how I made it.

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