SPOR NEUROFUNK BASS ABLETON

[PatrickReza]

Hey guys, I'm really interested in making neurofunk sounds and have been experimenting but can't quite get there.

I have Ableton Suite 8, Massive, Camelphat, and Ohmicide.

Any help, tutorials, etc would be much appreciated.

I know the basis of making a reese (detuned saws, chorus, unison, glide, etc) I'm more interested in the filtering techniques I can use to accomplish a sound like this:

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EDIT: so after a bit of experimentation I came up with this. any tips for adding more crunch to the sound?
Just used massive and camelphat, I'm chasing those damn crunchy hi end static noises. Any Tips to get closer to the above example?

Edit: just made these now, thanks for the tips!
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[Hircine]

reese bass thread, read the whole thing, it has some serious techniques on it. how to make that dungeon sound thread has a few reese tutorials too. maybe giving doa's search function a try?

[PatrickReza]

looking on doa right now, but i can only find reason/cubase tutorials/help/etc

[PatrickReza]

and the forum is rediculously slow to load

[Hircine]

and the forum is rediculously slow to load

neurofunk reese lines come from resampling, automation, experimentation and chopping the sounds. I believe that anything done on Cubase can be applied to any other daw. try automating various filters on the same 30 second note, make sweeps, wobbles and whatsoever on a heavily distorted reese with chorus + phaser on the mids and flanger + bit of reverb on the highs. pick up the best parts, chop them up, time stretch, reverse them, go mad. you can put it all on a sampler and control the sample start point with the pitchbend wheel or anything like that.

[PatrickReza]

ive gotten some pretty good ones, just looking for that specific aggressive crunchy reese

[hasezwei]

>omigod in this tutorial he hosts the vst's in a different DAW i cant apply it to mine
>doesn't know how to reese but already has a facebook fan page

oh boy...

get yourself a sampler, WoW filter and start notching. that and multiband processing/layering is key.
kontakt is pretty ace for resampling reeses, lotsa filter types and nice distortions.

flangers and phasers on the highs can turn an otherwise meh-y reese into a jawdropping one.
highpass filter sweeps are seriously underrated
don't start with massive, i dont know why but 3 detuned saws out of massive sound somehow inferior to other synths. something about massive's oscillators sounds really really cheap.

[PatrickReza]

"I know the basis of making a reese (detuned saws, chorus, unison, glide, etc) I'm more interested in the filtering techniques I can use to accomplish a sound like this"

[bkwsk]

[hasezwei]

notch filtering

scoop out the mids there you go. have multiple notches with a bit of resonance and some reasonable drive (this is where WOW's inbuilt overdrive comes in handy) automated all over the place and run the sound through the same chain multiple times til it sounds good.

theres loads of fizzy high end, but almost no mids in the sound you linked so you should take those frequencies out.
and distort, distort, distort. only filtering without distorting the filtered signal is boring.

[PatrickReza]

thanks for the tips guys keep em coming. im looking for that gritty ass spor shit.

[PatrickReza]

So after a bit of experimentation I came up with this. any tips for adding more crunch to the sound?
Just used massive and camelphat, I'm chasing those damn crunchy hi end static noises. Any Tips to get closer to the above example?
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[bkwsk]

See if saturating the low-mids a little helps. Also try to add some movement to your notch filters.

Also try layering your reesse with an attacky white noise.

[sunny_b_uk]

if u want more crispy high end use foldback distortion..

[PatrickReza]

appreciate it, ill look in to foldback distortions, any good plug ins for in specifically?

[PatrickReza]

See if saturating the low-mids a little helps. Also try to add some movement to your notch filters.

Also try layering your reesse with an attacky white noise.

oooh duh white noise, wow that makes SO much sense! hahah thanks! oh and 100th post! woop!

[sunny_b_uk]

theres only a foldback vst i made in synthmaker but its mono so its annoying to use, iv never seen a foldback vst tbh :S
iv only seen a foldback plugin in reason..
try using multiband distortion to distort your highs more that will work.. or high pass some white noise and add it in your fx chain that you used for your bass (works better than just adding the white noise sometimes)
experiment!

[PatrickReza]

theres only a foldback vst i made in synthmaker but its mono so its annoying to use, iv never seen a foldback vst tbh :S
iv only seen a foldback plugin in reason..
try using multiband distortion to distort your highs more that will work.. or high pass some white noise and add it in your fx chain that you used for your bass (works better than just adding the white noise sometimes)
experiment!

multiband distortion commencing. this is getting gritty

[bkwsk]

multiband distortion commencing. this is getting gritty

Try not to overdo it! Better apply a little bit of MB distortion, resample and see where it takes you, it's pretty easy to overdo these things.

[PatrickReza]

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just made these. getting wayyy cooler! more growly