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Re: WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

Post by Sure_Fire » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:44 pm

@yungkay - Dude some of those synths in the drop are really annoying....I suppose that's an opinion thing though. kick is also a little weak, that thing should thump!

@reversed - I'm not a real fan of deep/minimal stuff but I liked your track. Had a good vibe, something I dont feel from a lot of similar style tracks. I felt it could use some extra percussion though, some more hats and stuff.

@ blak - It seemed to me that the main synth in the drop is way too far back in the mix... I know you were probably looking for contrast with the other synths, but I was struggling to hear it most of the time. Some/more reverb and a boost to the highs would probably solve that problem.

Anyway, here's mine, a bit of an epic brostep track, the first half will be at the tail end of the previous song (an electro house song), Periphery style. The full track shall include it though. I'm looking for any feedback, structure, sound design, synthesis, mixing, anything and everything. I'm all ears. Keep in mind it's very raw and it will flow nicely once I've finished it.

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Post by CircuitDNB » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:41 pm

@ Sure_Fire: I like the track, but I'm not that fond of the arp synth after the drop. You should also work on bringing the high-end out a bit, as the track seems to be mid-heavy. I would personally remove it after the drop and reintroduce it at 3:10.

Here's a dubstep track I have been working on:

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Post by Sure_Fire » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:04 pm

CircuitDNB wrote:@ Sure_Fire: I like the track, but I'm not that fond of the arp synth after the drop. You should also work on bringing the high-end out a bit, as the track seems to be mid-heavy. I would personally remove it after the drop and reintroduce it at 3:10.

Here's a dubstep track I have been working on:

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haha dude you don't listen to enough metal! It's a pretty prog-metal influenced bit, which is my favourite genre of music. So I kinda like it too much how it is to change it. Thanks for the feedback though, I'll mess around with the EQ a bit and see if I can bring out the high end a little. It is very mid heavy at the moment.

Like your track bro, but it's a little repetitive for my OCD mind, which needs constant motion to survive....(yay for dream theater references!) Production is nice, Though I'm thinking the wobbles could be bigger...or maybe I'm just nuts.
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Post by Fbac » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:13 pm

@reversed: Sounding big on my system, sadly havent got much constructive feedback. Maybe introducing that tabla percussion you have at the end into the tune earlier on. You have a nice groove going on .

@subfect: Wow thats cool, nice snare/stick,, good mix... Very nice, even that background synth i like, sorry no feedback other then i really like this head nodding tune, got groove and superb mix on my system

@Yungkay: Sounds like its missing something to fill out the frequency spectrum, sounds basic , beats and bass, dunno if you were going for that.. no lead line or pads or anything, maybe some reverbed background sample or something would help.

@blak: I like the vocal and the intro, not keen on the sound at 0:25 sounds un-processed and not nice, maybe some reverb chourus on it. before the drop you could get rid of that yah yah sound, right at the drop i thought wow like this (kind of like feedme) synth lead line stuff, but its wayyy wayyy too messsy (something youl fix with a better mixdown) think you have too many sounds.. and that yay yoi thing should go in my opinion. for your 3rd track its pretty good tho. A good mixdown and de-cluttering would help, go thru and get rid of anything you dont think are ace.. also vocal is drowned out at the drop. The second one is alot better on my system, and makes the noise i mentioned not liking okay. think you still could get rid of that yay-yoi too me it sounds cheap.


@Rejinx The noise at 0:13 was abit loud for me and the noise at 0:49 i felt could use some reverb to have it fade of in the distance. No real constructive feedback, sorry. Nice kick but sounds too loud. Its all abit random and i wouldnt say it was spooky or halloween ish.


@sure-fire: (using skism - experts as a referance) from 1:55 onwards. Like the begining synth piece quite nice,, the choir notes sound abit basic. maybe instead less notes on a moer interesting choir piece. Honestly first thought was... :/ is that a yoi? but thats a personal opinion. The mix sounds abit quiet on my system (might be my system tho) . Drums sound a little flat. Synth sounds sound abit like "ive done all the tutorials" rather then original sounding sounds (there good sounds tho, nice yois and so on just doesnt say "wow not heard anything like that before"). The piano breakdown doesnt seem to fit the tune, rather seems separate. Could do with some risers before the second drop. Got abit more into it on the second drop and thought it sounded fairly decently balanced.


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This is something that is a long way off being complete. Is the sub/bass too loud, does the switch up work or does it sound too quiet?

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Post by subfect » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:53 pm

Reversed wrote:
I'd put more work into the snare, maybe layer it with a rimshot? Or maybe transient shaping... Other than that, I like it! Maybe a bit more variation in the drop.
I'd try putting a very low gain midrange bass (maybe some low pitched square based, very simple bass) on the sub and automate some compressor / LPF on it. Like it other than that.
Less distortion, more stereo image work on the midrange bass, also put the bass lines on a similar output level, and your gain structure sounds off a bit

Don't do deep stuff that often and am not really good at it. (Square/Sine waves all the way though!)
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Thanks for your input man - may just do that, adding another layer :) On your track, quite liking it - some of the levels are a bit off, and I think that rimshot could do with some eq, feels a little dry. Your mids/sub also sound a bit loud.
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Post by TheOfficialWikyd » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:42 am

fbac: Not quite sure how to say it, I personally like the sub bass if you're trying to make it punch but if it's just a supporting sub, It's a little loud, I like the vocals.
Sure_Fire: Not really my style but I enjoyed the drums.
Circuit: Really need to fatten those wobbles up, but it is also a little repetitive...

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Post by Rejinx » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:44 am

@blak -
I like your second iteration of the track. It feel more clean and the levels seem to work much better.
I would try to get that main bass to pop a little more, try to give it a little more high register frequencies and cut some from elsewhere.
Or bring in some other high FREQ sounds. Sounds good!

@budspencertron -
you've got a nice track here. Not much I can say, but maybe add in a pad in the background for
some atmosphere.

@Circuit DnB -
Bro I like this track a lot. I think you should back off on that crazy bass a bit more and add in
some low/mid frequencies on it. It'll give it more presence and it won't be over repetitive.
Maybe automate an EQ to have it morph from what it is now to have more lows and less highs
in a certain window of time.
Otherwise I'm diggin' it.

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Post by Blak » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:28 am

@CircuitDNB
This is awesome, made me giggle a little bit up to 0:54, then I frowned cause it is a bit repetitive. I can hear subtle changes, but not enough to make me feel like I was going anywhere :( Was having a hard time hearing much of the percs too. Back to mixdown?

@Fbac
Ty so much for pointing that out about the synth, it was definitely just set and forget. Anyways ...
I like this track. Felt like the sample could use some warping minutely adjusted. It's 0109 in the AM here so I can kick on the sub, I definitely lose the bass around 2:25 though, level seems ok up to there. Switch up does seem quiet.

@TheOfficialWikyd
This is pretty sweet. All the transitions are nice and smooth. Felt like the snare wasn't always popping through, especially at 1:27 it started to get pretty bad, when that arping synth comes in. Sub was strong, even in my headphones =D


Thank you everybody for the feedback. Went back to mixdown around 3 or 4 times this evening. Hopefully you hear an improvement over the last 2...

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Post by TheOfficialWikyd » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:03 am

Blak wrote:@CircuitDNB
This is awesome, made me giggle a little bit up to 0:54, then I frowned cause it is a bit repetitive. I can hear subtle changes, but not enough to make me feel like I was going anywhere :( Was having a hard time hearing much of the percs too. Back to mixdown?

@Fbac
Ty so much for pointing that out about the synth, it was definitely just set and forget. Anyways ...
I like this track. Felt like the sample could use some warping minutely adjusted. It's 0109 in the AM here so I can kick on the sub, I definitely lose the bass around 2:25 though, level seems ok up to there. Switch up does seem quiet.

@TheOfficialWikyd
This is pretty sweet. All the transitions are nice and smooth. Felt like the snare wasn't always popping through, especially at 1:27 it started to get pretty bad, when that arping synth comes in. Sub was strong, even in my headphones =D


Thank you everybody for the feedback. Went back to mixdown around 3 or 4 times this evening. Hopefully you hear an improvement over the last 2...

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Post by CircuitDNB » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:48 am

Thanks for all of the feedback guys, I'm going to take all of your suggestions into consideration - I agree with pretty much all of them.

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Post by wewuk » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:23 pm

@blak (latest version of ur track): those 2 seconds before your drop feel really, really bad, the synth that is, the reverb is doing really strange things there, not liking it at all. the whole part after drop, doesn't feel like it's a song but just a lot of random dropped together. I would def rethink what you're trying to aim for. There is too much going on in the song. you got the chopped up vocal sample, the sample in the back and then the mid-range bass doing all kind of strange things. All this elements combined is just too much.
I would recommend to try and just use 1 element first and then softly put in the others.

@fbac: that intro sounds like a song from the 80's. the bass is atm for me just spot on. the switch up is working well and I do think you got something here with this track, will need a lot of work on it tho! :)

@reverseddo continue this song, atm it sounds really nice, the growls could (if you want to get a bit darker) be more aggresive, so have them open up a bit on the cut-off. I do think you should stop with the stabs in the song to give it a bit more space, especially when the percussion kicks in.

@yungkaynot feeling the mid-range at all. the basis of the song, (kick/snare/hh+oh) is decent

@rejinxnothing not dubstep about this bro. I love the water samples, and the pad in the background is just lovely. you should def finish or do something with this.
@subfect percussion/snare/kick are spo0t on. the soft synth could be a bit louder, the second synth that kicks in is a bit meh, not really feeling that one. the pad kicking in after the first reversed crash is nice and really compliments the track. I would even use only that one and remove the synth. like you did in the end. Me for myself I love always some extra percussion, but nice work!
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Post by Reversed » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:50 pm

Sure_Fire wrote:@reversed - I'm not a real fan of deep/minimal stuff but I liked your track. Had a good vibe, something I dont feel from a lot of similar style tracks. I felt it could use some extra percussion though, some more hats and stuff.
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Thanks man! Will do. Your tune is 404 for me?
Fbac wrote:@reversed: Sounding big on my system, sadly havent got much constructive feedback. Maybe introducing that tabla percussion you have at the end into the tune earlier on. You have a nice groove going on .

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Thanks man! Was hoping for someone to play it on proper speakers since i only got my headphones for mastering and my shitty standard car system :P Yeah i will probably do that and add some more subtle percussion to the earlier sections, as it's been mentioned before
On your tune: the drums are too quiet! Also, try some timebased sfx, like chorus on the vox, imo chorus almost always sounds good on vox (but i suck at vox processing, so theres that. ha)
subfect wrote:On your track, quite liking it - some of the levels are a bit off, and I think that rimshot could do with some eq, feels a little dry. Your mids/sub also sound a bit loud.
Yep, i need to do something about the sub... probably gonna experiment with some sfx on it, although i want to keep it pure sine.... maybe some chorus / volume automation? And yep, now that you mention it, something is missig from the rimshot and the mids are totally over the top. Didn't even notice yet.

wewuk wrote: @reverseddo continue this song, atm it sounds really nice, the growls could (if you want to get a bit darker) be more aggresive, so have them open up a bit on the cut-off. I do think you should stop with the stabs in the song to give it a bit more space, especially when the percussion kicks in.
You're probably right about that, as i said, i don't make deep stuff too often. Will look into it.

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Post by subfect » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:33 am

Reversed wrote:Yep, i need to do something about the sub... probably gonna experiment with some sfx on it, although i want to keep it pure sine.... maybe some chorus / volume automation? And yep, now that you mention it, something is missig from the rimshot and the mids are totally over the top. Didn't even notice yet.
I definitely wouldn't be chorusing a sine wave sub - you'll lose all power/presence from it to begin with. It's mostly the sub that's too loud. In all seriousness, just overdrive/saturate it a little then compress. All it really needs - and make sure you tone it down a tad ;)
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Post by zorboT » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:47 am

Thanks for the feedback guys!

I tried listening to what you guys said and I have an updated version of it :D

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Post by Brain Monkey » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:04 am

@Zorbo Love it, only thing I would say is that sweep it a tad bit long for my taste

@Blak The transition at 50 sec marks sounds a little off, only other thing is the sound levels are roughly all the same through out, didnt feel like a real build up.

@Rejinx where did you plan on using that part in your song? It not bad and actually liked it even as a intro then transition into the melody then bring that back with a little more bass.

I love music and always wanted to produce songs, so made it a resolution to learn how to.

So this is my first real post and this is the first song I've tried to produce. Between here and youtube Its helped me get this far.

I would say about 50% of the way through, I need to made the intro a little more smooth and flow together. Still working on drop and filling the empty space, that's been the hardest part for me. Then at the end is the direction I want to take it( so like a preview), that will be the main melody and build around that, then tie it all together for finale.

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Post by mthrfnk » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:20 am

Brain Monkey wrote:I love music and always wanted to produce songs, so made it a resolution to learn how to.

So this is my first real post and this is the first song I've tried to produce. Between here and youtube Its helped me get this far.

I would say about 50% of the way through, I need to made the intro a little more smooth and flow together. Still working on drop and filling the empty space, that's been the hardest part for me. Then at the end is the direction I want to take it( so like a preview), that will be the main melody and build around that, then tie it all together for finale.

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Post by Electric_Head » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:27 am

Brain Monkey - Nice intro, the initial kick is way too hot in the mix.
You can even see in the waveform view that it hits too hard.
And again on the drop you start it hot and lower the volume.
The drop is very loud and overly obnoxious.
And then it falls apart imo.
Everything after 1 minutes doesn't make sense to me.

Fbac - The sub bass is certainly not too loud.
This is not my style but mixdown wise everything seems to have it's place and sits well with the tune itself.
Good uplifting tune none-the-less.

The Official Wikyd - Opening snare is waay to hot in the mix and adds an overly harsh top end to the mix which carries on throughout.
The Lead line that plays is also very top heavy and hurts my ears.
Which once again is added to by the wishy pad that is also overly high pitched.

Here's something I worked on last night for an hour or so.
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I am not overly happy with the levels of the percussion yet but that is minor.
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Post by Brain Monkey » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:29 pm

Thanks for the feed back, I have no idea what going to do about drop, still I redid some the sound levels.

@Electric_Head - really like the concept, like you mentioned i would bring out the precussion more.

@TheOfficialWikyd - I agree its very loud especially in the beginning around 10-15 second mark. I would see if could fine some diff. wobbles at the 54 second mark, to me it doesn't match the song. Really like it overall


Just the intro - re did levels,

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Post by lightshapers » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:08 pm

bit of drumstep from me. pretty much finished, just a preview up atm, mixdown needs a little polish but you get the idea 8)

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Post by Electric_Head » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:23 am

lightshapers wrote: Will leave some feedback for others later tonight
I guess you decided against giving feedback.
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