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how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo imager)

Post by Eat Bass » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:54 pm

im wondering if there is an AU plugin or any way in logic to mono out certain frequencies. like in reason the you can set the threshold of the stereo imager so that anything below x frequency is mono. i really need this because after adding stereo effets to my bass its become a bit weak and sloppy down bottom. i cant be arsed to frequency split every time i make a bass, plus i cant even frequency split in logic since the multipressor and eq do a shitty job.

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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Bassf4ce » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:59 pm

How low are the frequencies? Cause I usually just build my basses so they don't really go under 100 hz at all and then I throw a sub bass in a different vst. Or you could rewire reason into logic.
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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Eat Bass » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:10 pm

Bassf4ce wrote:How low are the frequencies? Cause I usually just build my basses so they don't really go under 100 hz at all and then I throw a sub bass in a different vst. Or you could rewire reason into logic.
i use a seperate sub bass as well. im talking in the 100-500hz range is getting muddy and weak. and rewiring and what not is what im trying to avoid.


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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Eat Bass » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:28 pm

Triphosphate wrote:http://www.toneprojects.com/products/plug-ins/basslane/

Maybe this is what you seek?
thats exactly what i need but thats vst only, i need AU.

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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Eat Bass » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:35 pm

does this look like it will do the trick? i believe it will but i want to be certain first...

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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Triphosphate » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:50 pm

My mistake man, sorry... I'm an FL/Protools guy, so that was lost on me. For my own learning what's an AU?

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Post by ehbes » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:32 pm

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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Eat Bass » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:05 am

iv read this can be done with a Mid side eq. i have ddmf's iieq which i believe has MS feature. how would i go about mono'ing out below a certain frequency though?

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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Laika » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:08 am

This video should help you, it shows you an easy way of splitting the frequencies on your bass and putting the lows in mono:

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Post by Sharmaji » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:12 am

direction mixer.

or just dupe the channel and make it mono.
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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Eat Bass » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:31 am

yeah but logics eq's or multipressor doesnt make exact cuts, and theres overlap. so id rather not do it that way. i think it would be easier to just effect the whole bass and then mono the <800hz or so no?

i have ddmf iieq which has a MS eq. do i just HPF the frequencies i want mono on the Side part of the eq? will this work? or should i use that other ddmf stereo plugin with the crossover frequency.


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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by +3 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:18 am

Eat Bass wrote:iv read this can be done with a Mid side eq. i have ddmf's iieq which i believe has MS feature. how would i go about mono'ing out below a certain frequency though?
Lyons, I’m looking for the exact same tool. If you find it before me, please IM me. Seriously.

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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Eat Bass » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:44 pm

@ Jock: That's a VST, I'm looking for an AU.
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Eat Bass wrote:iv read this can be done with a Mid side eq. i have ddmf's iieq which i believe has MS feature. how would i go about mono'ing out below a certain frequency though?
Lyons, I’m looking for the exact same tool. If you find it before me, please IM me. Seriously.
Will do man. I'm pretty sure it can be done with a Mid Side EQ such as DDMF's IIEQ Pro or even Abletons EQ8 I believe has it. I'm looking more into it though and I've also been testing. From what I'm noticing so far if I put a HPF on the Side EQ everything below the filter is in mono, which is what I want. But, I'd like to verify that this is actually happening before I come to a conclusion. It's hard for my pretty untrained ears to tell, especially when I don't have a club system to test it out on.

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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by 3rdeye » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:09 pm

Sonalksis StereoTools will do exactly what you are looking for with minimal fuss!
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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Eat Bass » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:31 pm

3rdeye wrote:Sonalksis StereoTools will do exactly what you are looking for with minimal fuss!
dude thats like 200 bucks. i already found an option for $30 bucks but i want to see if using a MS EQ in the way i described above will work. any comments on that?

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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Depone » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:55 am

Just a tip man, if you mono sum a bass with lots of widening effects like chorus ect its going to sound horrible with lots of phasing ect... you need to keep your mid/side seperation... well seperate. Just set up a logic project, then use your preferred seperation technique (mines using a good mb comoressor, with the compression disengaged) and save the project as a template.

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Re: how to mono low frequencies in logic (reasons stereo ima

Post by Eat Bass » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:37 pm

Depone wrote:Just a tip man, if you mono sum a bass with lots of widening effects like chorus ect its going to sound horrible with lots of phasing ect... you need to keep your mid/side seperation... well seperate. Just set up a logic project, then use your preferred seperation technique (mines using a good mb comoressor, with the compression disengaged) and save the project as a template.
iv been at this solution for ages man and i cant seem to find an effective way to split my bass in logic!

sure i know how to do it using the stock MB compressor as well as the stock EQ, BUT whenever I do that theres HUGE overlaps...especially with the MB compressor. When I use the MB compressor theres legit noticeable bass in the high cut...The EQ isn't quite as bad but it leaves it sounding a bit muddy due the to curves and really not being the correct filter for the job.

I wonder if I could use Fabfilter Saturn and just leave the settings off to split up my bass. Would that work? If not can you please recommend me a method or decently priced plugin that will do the job? Also once you split and effect do you throw your bass into kontakt or what have you? I just got Komplete 7 for $200 bucks and Kontakt seems to be like learning a new DAW.

By the way will that MS EQ work for what im talking about? By just high passing the side EQ? Or will that still lead to junk like you mentioned in the thread.

by the way i actually just pmd you this incase you lose the thread. im awaiting your valued answer!

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