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Re: WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

Post by Fbac » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:13 am

Thanks for the feedback,


I am away from my place while visiting family so am using some creative speakers to listen too. (Using Noisia: Machine Gun & sparxy's deadlock to compare with)

@Blak : Had to turn the volume up slightly for the intro.. Mixdown sounds better. Not too keen on that step-arpegiator pitch effect before the drop, as its got a bit of a chilled vibe. After the drop. There appears to be no real low end on and the bass/lead synth sounds too muddy (maybe too much distortion?) it doesnt sound crisp. Youve got what sounds like some 8-bit nintendo drum hits near the end, mix wise they seem to stand out too much. I feel the groove gets kind of lost at 1:03 after the first bar from the drop. (stopped headnodding at 1:10 started again about 1:18) (remember im using speakers that arnt mine at the moment so take all ive said with a pinch of salt.) Ending effects are quite cool tho.

@Rejinx : The sound to me is abit wishy washy and missing on proper low end.. I did like the part at the very end 0:13. I played that back a few times.

@electrichead: I like the drums and drum patterns.. not too keen on the bass , base notes are alright, think the bass sounds abit plain, could maybe do with some nice low end maybe or some slight movement? (remember on speakers which i don't know will translate a nice deep bass properly,) likling the background noise and ambiatic feel your achieving with the wind and backgorund noises... rain-sticks and hats sound nice too. think some of those tabla hits could perhaps be changed. in a way that they stop on the end of a bar giving abit of breathing space.. the way those reverbed snares tend to do in alot of dubstep.

@brain monkey: Really really liked your intro, had to turn up the volume tho, reminded me of a nice 80s song maybe.. Then the kick came, making me turn the volume back down, wasn't too keen on the synth that then plays sounded abit harsch maybe (then again i dont like alot of the circus stuff so i could be biased) , really liked it when you put the effect on it at 1:13 , the little breakdown before that seemed like you were too heavy handed on the paning/filter/volume automation. Cool buildup. dunno if i think some of those sounds are abit cliche tho... (but thats personal opinion and i dont even know if thats an opinion i would back tommorow lol)

@theofficialwykd: Not my style of sound,, (but thats personal prefarance) the lead sounds very untreated (maybe thats your intent) . When you only have that lead synth playing after thsoe growlly wobs it feels like its lacking alot of low and mid,, maybe a layer under the simple lead you have could give it abit more depth. maybe having the same sound but with alot of chorus on it and mixing them together might be nice.


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Havent got anything to feedback yet as im away, but a simple yes or no to the question of ... "on the second drop do the laser synths and the pitch automation sound bad/wrong/out of place/ruins the song" would be appreciated.
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Post by Electric_Head » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:18 am

Thanks Fbac, I think it's most definitely your speakers as I know the sub is well low in this one.
I agree on your other points though, I didn't spend much time on the patterns and transitions, just looped a piece and brought it here for a bit of feedback.
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Post by Fbac » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:28 am

^you got an example of a tune with a good sub that I can A/B your track with. (also will give me a good idea on what these speakers soundlike on the low end)
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Post by Electric_Head » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:30 am

I guess something like DJ Madd - New Reality or similar.
Just off the top of my head.
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Post by Fbac » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:47 am

^Pretty nice tune that. Okay so ive put up the bass knob abit on these speakers.. and listening to your track again... the bass isnt that boring anymore.. maybe im listening too intently to it now tho. Im not sure how i feel about the 5th bass note, the one just after the kick. Its just kind of noticible to me not in a good way.. Maybe swapping the kick and bass note around? so the kick is just abit late? (however now that i listen to it with my eyes closed whilst typing i dont know if i even have a problem with it lol) >_> so maybe no real useful feedback from me haha
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Post by Electric_Head » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:03 pm

It's all good.
I appreciate you listening and commenting.
I have actually only used that in a section of the track, I push all the bass notes till after the kicks and change the bass pattern quite a bit.
It also becomes a bit more of a bass drone at points and I drop it out again later.
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Post by lightshapers » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:32 pm

Electric_Head wrote: I guess you decided against giving feedback.
well i would have except you've deleted your tune :6:

@TheOfficialWikyd - like this, drums and also the sub need to come up in the mix though, that lead seems a bit too prominent

@blak - sounds like youre trying to squeeze a lot of ideas into one tune, all gets a bit messy when it drops, maybe pick a couple of those sounds and focus on making them bigger instead of trying to fill it with loads of different parts

@zorbo - quite like that :D maybe needs a bigger sounding snare though imo, little vocal sample or something to hold/grab peoples attention



what happened to the other feedback thread?

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Post by Brain Monkey » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:10 pm

Thanks Fbac,

Ill adjust the levels, I thought fixed the kicked, did you listen to the second post? On the melody that comes in around 30 second mark, trying to work on it, don't like the high pitch note at the end, working on Somme other styles for the build. But as this point I have no clue about the drop, cant seem to get something the flows right.

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Post by Fbac » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:38 pm

Brain Monkey wrote:Thanks Fbac,

Ill adjust the levels, I thought fixed the kicked, did you listen to the second post? On the melody that comes in around 30 second mark, trying to work on it, don't like the high pitch note at the end, working on Somme other styles for the build. But as this point I have no clue about the drop, cant seem to get something the flows right.
Listened to the second post.
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Post by ehbes » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:30 pm

Fbac- i thought it was really good until the midrange around 2:30, thought it kinda killed the vibe. maybe continue with that lp'ed reese you had going on earlier.

Brian Monkey- the drums at :27 are still a bit too loud for me, kinda takes away from the feeling you had started, same goes for the riser before hand

Blak- as much as i don't like brostep, technically its pretty sound, only suggestion i would make is maybe some reverse reverb on the vocals to continue the somewhat eerie atmosphere the intro had

ok heres mine, leaning on the ambient side, i need something around the 1;04 mark but I'm not sure what to add, so help on that'd be great, as well as any things you found wrong with the mix :Q:

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Post by Bola » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:25 am

boy this thread is moving fast

@subfect yoo thanks for the feedback, still diggin all your tunes with the deep vibes
@reijinx thanks for the feedback, i see what you are saying about the squelch gonna work on it some more. i was on the sukh knight / kromestar tip but the sound aint quite there yet
gonna try out the granular delay for sure, back to resampling
@reversed thanks for the feedback, there is actually a rimshot in there layered but i guess ill turn it up. ive been getting to learn transient shaping so this would be a good opportunity :lol: oh and yes more variation

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Post by Praxisaxis » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:18 am

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Love the subs in this - seems like a lot of energy has gone in here (or maybe you're just a natural)... I have trouble with getting subs just right. The drum hits for my taste are a little too static - a track this length I would like to hear the strikes themselves evolve very subtly. A little graininess after the strike, or pre-empt them occasionally with a < kind of dynamic thing. But I only say that because that's what I'm into... maybe you like it the way it is. Nice work though - lovely mood.

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Post by Praxisaxis » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:24 am

Turnipish Thoughts wrote:

OK. me... Been working on this for the past 3 days, it's a weird one, very barely Dubstep imo lol. I'd like feedback on arrangement and mixing, and of course overall vibes, where it could go e.t.c. Ideas on where to take the second section, what to add/take away, so on and so forth, you know the drill!

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Nice atmosphere. It's interesting that you've chosen to go for big reverb for this kind of track... it's verging on film-score (in a good way). I don't know, do you need to build it up again? I can hear it going back to that relatively clean introduction for a while, and conclude with something new. I like the way you're preserving the bass sounds despite all the verb. Drums are pretty damn decent actually.

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Post by Praxisaxis » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:28 am

ehbrums1 wrote: ok heres mine, leaning on the ambient side, i need something around the 1;04 mark but I'm not sure what to add, so help on that'd be great, as well as any things you found wrong with the mix :Q:

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Ok the relationship between the sub and the kick is great... nailed that. Personally something about the sound of the kick drum is not doing it for me... just somehow not fitting with the (excellent) vibe set up in the rest of the track. It needs to be ...errr... more.... whhooomphy.... it's just a touch on the mechanical side, where the rest of the tune is so lush.

Structure is fine but I can tell your ideas are still evolving with this one.

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Post by Praxisaxis » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:35 am

OK here's one from me... this is just "selections" from tunes from an EP I'm working on (song titles are labelled in the comments). I'm trying to make it sorta sci-fi, narrative music evoking a steampunk theme - so more for listening than dancing I guess. It's not really dubstep but shares that sort of interest in sound design and those tempos and beat structure etc. Because its only sections the structure of the tunes isn't evident but I'm interested in comments on production, mixing etc.

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Post by Fbac » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:37 am

(listening on the creative speakers again) Thanks for the feedback ehbrums.
@ehbrums: Really like the intro, very cinematic and ambient. dont know if the attack on those 0:17 is too short making them quite prominent, maybe abit of a fade in job on them? (personal prefarance) , that sound does seem to be quite prominent. Nice drums. very nice kick. Come 2:10 i was getting abit sick of that sound tho. think its too prominent in the mix.(on speakers i dont know too well btw) part from that liked the amibence, beats, and percussive noises youve got going on. Altho i cant comment on the bass when i turn up the bass knob it sounds like you may have an interesting sub underneath it all which didnt come out well on these speakers.

@ praxisaxis: You have the volume correct in relation to other tracks ive listend to on these speakers. Felt the intro was kinda sparse but you may have been going for that. The bass that creeps in on the intro is interesting. 1:20 ... I have no comments... i dont know what to think. i dont like it haha...(personal prefarance) ... 1:54.. now this.. yes i like this... I could even dance to this.. which is a step up from the comment "head nodding" . likeing the edits you got in here and the flow groove works well.. not too sure about those stab samples you have at 2:20 . sound abut too unprocessed, maybe some reverb on them? ....
... oh ffs! just realised this is abunch of tracks! >__> Not overly keen on the last track.. the bass sounds abit hollowish.. however its new to me and for me thats good, as its not imitating. Out of the 4 i wold like the 3rd tune, i could deal with the 4th tune.. i would hate/turn off the 2nd tune.. and tune one doesnt seem to go anywhere.....
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Post by Praxisaxis » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:00 am

Thanks for the feedback... yeah these are just segments of entire tracks, so structurally they don't make much sense in that clip. It's funny you don't like the 2nd one... it seems to polarise people - I've had other people say they love it, but yeah it's very off-kilter and wonky. I'll take that about the stabs into account - maybe they're a little dry... cheers for that. OK, bass sounds hollow on the last track... hhmmmm... ok, I'll re-evaluate. Thanks for the input.

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Post by mthrfnk » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:29 pm

Struggled to decide who to feedback, lots of people seem to be posting feedback without tracks in their post so I'm not sure if you wanted feedback on the tracks in your sigs or not so I've gone for people asking for specific feedback, sorry if I missed you:

@Praxisaxis: Some neat sound design and ambiences you have going on. The mixing sounds okay and the basses sound great (would be interested in what synth/fx you used for them). I'd like to hear all these tracks in full man, stuff is sounding ace! Overall the production value sounds awesome and liek I said the mixing sounds okay too. Great job on the EP, hit me up when it's done :D

@ehbrums1: First off how do you pronounce phaeo? Lush intro on the track, the drums sound really nice too, the fluttering hats/rides sound really nice. I get what you mean about something at 1:04, I think a crash or similar hit would be too harsh, how about a delayed wood knock that kind of cuts through eveything? Onyl thing I'd do on the mix is perhaps get the kick punching through more. Really nice :4:

@Fbac: The intro on this is great, the droning background pads are good - overall it has a realyl dark sci-fi vibe, like it could be used over credits to stat a film. The drums sound nice a real. I like the change up on the drop, but I feel some of the basses are too hissy, maybe slap a de-esser on them and clear out some muddy midrange? Also yes, I'd remove the laser sounds, I don't like them at all sorry. Outro is nice too :h:


So I started working on a Boys Noize remix. Not mixed at all, still lots to do on it but figured I'd grab some feedback, oh and yeah I know lots of stuff is way distorted (going for a Justice type vibe):
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Post by Fbac » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:19 pm

@Praxisaxis: Had another listen and still really dont like the second track (but thats personal preferance and its something completely different which is a good thing. I dont like it cause i dont like it rather then i dont like it because it badly made if that makes anysense.) Dont take the "hollow" comment too liturally since as i mentioned above im on a diffrent set of speakers away from home and im not sure if im hearing the sub correctly, if you have a nice sub on that which i cant hear then it should be okay., quite a few famous producers have a hollowish sounding bass,, i dont mean its missing frequencies, had another listen to track 4 and like it abit more now. You have an interesting sound.

@mthrfnk: oh dear a boys noize remix haha. Volume wise its on par with reference tracks ive been using. Hey this isnt half bad, quite liek the beat and what youve done with the vocal. Think the "one - one one one" may be abit to much but it does help the....oh dear drop!. haha... I turned the bass up all the way and didnt feel any bass (this is more likely the speakers) the mix sounds good tho, and im liking the sounds you have. and like the structure with the more simple powerful drop coming in at 1:54 . Kind of a rocky vibe you got going on . Not sure if i like that "percussion" "hit" thing that was drum rolled before the drop , when its used in the track think it stands out a bit and may be a bit muddy. not sure tho. or maybe it sounds abit too low. Feel abit of the low end is lost 2:46 switch. Liking the bit before the 3ed drop 4:11 - 4:30 . Not sure how i feel about the end,. all in all pretty good and some quite nice sounds and not what i was expecting.

@feedback. So far 2 people think the lasers are a nono,, cheers for the de-essing idea mthrfnk .
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Post by ehbes » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:29 pm

mthrfnk wrote:@ehbrums1: First off how do you pronounce phaeo?
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