133 bpm for dubstep?

[NinjaEdit]

133 beats/minute is apparently the best house tempo to keep people dancing a long time. It's the heart rate of a slow jog. Dubstep could easily be slowed from 140 to 133.

Thoughts on 133bpm?

[Blingley]

The best BPM for having people in average shape to dance all night is 127. 133 is slightly too fast, but should work with a lot of people in their early 20's.

You gotta realize that people dance to the beat, though, and dubstep beat is half-time, essentially bringing the rate of dancing closer to 70, with pieces where of faster dancing: The drops.

[mthrfnk]

Since when was there a best tempo to make people dance?

I'm currently making a half-time 128bpm track. Is it dubstep? No probably not. Do I care if it's danceable? Nope. Do I like it and does it sound good to me? Yep, and that's all I think about when making stuff, seriously if you're trying to coordinate your tempo to someones heart beat you have your priorites completely fucking screwed.

[NinjaEdit]

I don't see why I can't try to make someone dance. There is a market for it.

I am in my early twenties.

Part of the 2-step thing is that people are so used to the four-to-the-floor feel, that they fill it in themselves. And I suppose you can still have a four-to-the-floor with a snare on the 3, and all the shuffling and subbass; like "houstep."

[Blingley]

Since when was there a best tempo to make people dance?

I'm currently making a half-time 128bpm track. Is it dubstep? No probably not. Do I care if it's danceable? Nope. Do I like it and does it sound good to me? Yep, and that's all I think about when making stuff, seriously if you're trying to coordinate your tempo to someones heart beat you have your priorites completely fucking screwed.

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This kind of depends. DJs, whose job is on many occassions to get people to dance, probably want to know stuff like this.

[Genevieve]

Most early dubstep was in the 130 - 135 range. El-B, Horsepower, Artwork.. Just go for it. People get waaay to ocaught up in bpms, though.

The best music to keep people dancing all night is good music. If it's shit and 125 bpm, I'll be tired of it in an hour. But I've done nothing but 200+ bpm for a whole night, without drugs, cuz it's fun.

And people have different heart rates doing different things. And people who dance every weekend will be in better shape than most people too.

[mthrfnk]

Since when was there a best tempo to make people dance?

I'm currently making a half-time 128bpm track. Is it dubstep? No probably not. Do I care if it's danceable? Nope. Do I like it and does it sound good to me? Yep, and that's all I think about when making stuff, seriously if you're trying to coordinate your tempo to someones heart beat you have your priorites completely fucking screwed.

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This kind of depends. DJs, whose job is on many occassions to get people to dance, probably want to know stuff like this.

A lot of DJs are going to beatmatch tracks, and half the time they'll want it the same tempo as the track before or a multiple of - in which case even if you set the tempo to some magical heart rate number all your work is out the window because the DJ has repitched the song to play at the same tempo as the previous track; 128bpm (for example).

I agree tempo plays a role, but the fact is if your music sucks then no-one wants to dance to it - if its good they will, and if it's good with a great beat they won't stop dancing all night.

[dickman69]

The best BPM for having people in average shape to dance all night is 127. 133 is slightly too fast, but should work with a lot of people in their early 20's.

You gotta realize that people dance to the beat, though, and dubstep beat is half-time, essentially bringing the rate of dancing closer to 70, with pieces where of faster dancing: The drops.

hahahaha

[Maxxan]

If you're going to try to have it played in clubs etc you'll probably want to stick near a common tempo, because most likely a DJ isn't going to go out of his way to play a tune in 160 bpm if the rest of his set is 128, unless that tune is an absolute killer. The transitions are harder and also they're not going to want to go back to a lower tempo after because they lose energy. So you'll want to stick around either 128/130 or maybe 140 bpm, because most tracks are going to be in that range. 110 works too I guess, not as common though (110 is the shit for dubstep btw imo). Of course this isn't true for all DJ:s etc but I think a lot of the time it's good to keep in mind.

With that said though, don't think too much about it though. I make a lot of 120 bpm stuff and that usually gets more love than the mainstream shit because that's what I'm good at. So in the end stick to whatever feels natural.

[Italus]

With dubstep sometimes I experiment with slower bpms like 130 - 135. I'm pretty sure Noisia slows down their dubstep too.

[ehbes]

140 is perfect from ambient music

[invisibled]

just adding my two cents, a little off track but kind of on track... I always start tracks at common tempo's, 70, 87, 108. But then before I go to far, and once i've got some midi in there I speed it up 5 or 10 bpm and slow it down 5 or 10 bpm and see if the groove locks in better around that tempo. Like many people have said, the DJ's often pitch it to match there other tracks, but if it's close they will probably still play it and you can have your slightly non conventional bpm. I do it for a lot of my songs.

[Blingley]

Since when was there a best tempo to make people dance?

I'm currently making a half-time 128bpm track. Is it dubstep? No probably not. Do I care if it's danceable? Nope. Do I like it and does it sound good to me? Yep, and that's all I think about when making stuff, seriously if you're trying to coordinate your tempo to someones heart beat you have your priorites completely fucking screwed.

'

This kind of depends. DJs, whose job is on many occassions to get people to dance, probably want to know stuff like this.

A lot of DJs are going to beatmatch tracks, and half the time they'll want it the same tempo as the track before or a multiple of - in which case even if you set the tempo to some magical heart rate number all your work is out the window because the DJ has repitched the song to play at the same tempo as the previous track; 128bpm (for example).

Interestingly, most DJs use numbers close to 127 because it is what keeps people dancing. Consequently, closer you stick to that number, the less the DJ will actually change your track.

I agree tempo plays a role, but the fact is if your music sucks then no-one wants to dance to it - if its good they will, and if it's good with a great beat they won't stop dancing all night.

A: Good is completely subjective. I can't see why anyone wants to dance to hardstyle, or even be within 5 miles of a location where it is played. Yet people still dance to it.
B: Some music really does not lend itself to dancing very well. See: A lot of IDM. Some music lends itself to dancing so well that it can sound like absolute crap and people still dance to it. See: Most techno.

[dickman69]

so ur saying entire genres of music are undanceable b/c of their bpm?

what???

[mthrfnk]

Interestingly, most DJs use numbers close to 127 because it is what keeps people dancing. Consequently, closer you stick to that number, the less the DJ will actually change your track.

Damn here I was thinking that all these dubstep show's I've been to the music's been at 140bpm

I agree tempo plays a role, but the fact is if your music sucks then no-one wants to dance to it - if its good they will, and if it's good with a great beat they won't stop dancing all night.

A: Good is completely subjective. I can't see why anyone wants to dance to hardstyle, or even be within 5 miles of a location where it is played. Yet people still dance to it.
B: Some music really does not lend itself to dancing very well. See: A lot of IDM. Some music lends itself to dancing so well that it can sound like absolute crap and people still dance to it. See: Most techno.

Obviously it's subjective, when I said good - I meant good for it's purpose rather than "good in general", as in a good house track will make you want to dance regardless of it's tempo being 120bpm or 140bpm.

[hutyluty]

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[AxeD]

My techno ignorance alarm went off, who is the culprit?

[hutyluty]

My techno ignorance alarm went off, who is the culprit?

[Bassf4ce]

I suppose you can still have a four-to-the-floor with a snare on the 3, and all the shuffling and subbass; like "houstep."

houstep? Wouldn't it just be Electro House?

[ehbes]

I suppose you can still have a four-to-the-floor with a snare on the 3, and all the shuffling and subbass; like "houstep."

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