new maschine, mikro or not?

[Phase Down]

I wanne buy the new maschine, but not sure wether I should buy the mikro one or not.. I can't really see much why I shouldnt or whats better about the full one??

Just don't wanne buy the mikro and then a month on realize I wish I bought the other one for a bit of extra $$$$

also how are the pads on it..? I have a korg padkontrol but those are shit has a delay on it and sometimes itll think you pressed a pad twice? dont buy this if you're looking for some accurate ones

any hints tips from current maschine owners?

[Maxxan]

I got the mikro and I use it solely as a drum pad when producing. If you buy the mikro you're gonna have to do everything with the mouse. The controls are absolute shit for doing, well, anything. It CAN be done but if you plan to do any editing/sampling/performing or whatever even slightly on the maschine then you don't wanna go with the mikro, it's a hassle and takes a long time. If you're like me though and don't really wanna use the maschine software (I run it as a plugin inside my daw for chopping basses, vocals and playing drums) then the mikro is a good choice. Depends how short you are on cash.

The pads are killer btw, really nice. I heard the mikro ones are better so I can't say anything about the maschine though but I'm sure they're also pretty good.

[Phase Down]

Thanks for the reply, I am more into using it inside my DAW.. how would the pads on the mikro be better btw? I mean im sure they would use the exact same pad technology in both.. would love some insight from both the mikro and the normal one

[snappy]

do you mind explaining me the difference between machine and a standard pad controller ?

[Maxxan]

Well better is a matter of taste of course but a lot of people say they're a bit softer on the mikro, easier on the fingers in long sessions etc is what I've heard. Haven't tried the big brother though so I can't say for sure but I do like the pads on mine. The mikro is getting a lot of love for it's pads from what I've seen but I haven't seen anyone complain about the other version either so I wouldn't think too much about it.

The difference with maschine is software integration. It has it's own software that's basically like a mini-daw, there are people who make entire songs solely using maschine. It can be mapped to midi like any standard pad controller too though.

[Phase Down]

do you mind explaining me the difference between machine and a standard pad controller ?

my standard pad controller is really not usable if your serious about your pads.. maschine comes with a massive library of sounds etc

[snappy]

do you mind explaining me the difference between machine and a standard pad controller ?

my standard pad controller is really not usable if your serious about your pads.. maschine comes with a massive library of sounds etc

you are talking nonsense! you want to buy a pad controller because of the sound library it comes with.......
buy the korg padkontrol its about half the price....

[Phase Down]

I have a korg padkontrol I already said.. its shit the pads are crap and thats the main reason, how am I talking nonsense? I am talking out of experience.. can you read?

[snappy]

I have a korg padkontrol I already said.. its shit the pads are crap and thats the main reason, how am I talking nonsense? I am talking out of experience.. can you read?

forgot to read
il do a little search for you

[snappy]

akai mpd18 seems nice

[Phase Down]

....... go away your useless

any guys using a maschine who can tell me how their using it finding it? and if they have a mikro, would you rather of bought the full one? if you have the full one, would you of rather bought the mikro one?

[snappy]

....... go away your useless

any guys using a maschine who can tell me how their using it finding it? and if they have a mikro, would you rather of bought the full one? if you have the full one, would you of rather bought the mikro one?

well im just saying, akai are the best when in comes to drum pads

[Phase Down]

you speaking from experience? or a quick google search? im looking for people who can tell me from experience, either way im not interested in the akai, im interested in the maschine like the thread says.

sorry buddy thanks for your search but COME ON!!!

[snappy]

you speaking from experience? or a quick google search? im looking for people who can tell me from experience, either way im not interested in the akai, im interested in the maschine like the thread says.

sorry buddy thanks for your search but COME ON!!!

i cant tell you what to buy
its a fact that akai are the best.
well, good luck with your search.

[Hircine]

Maschine (the controller) fully integrates with the VST, you can't midi control the VST. The VST is a powerful sequencer with the possibility of recording midi, sampling, note chokes, aux sends, groups, MPC style sample bitrate, tube emulation, VST host and full integration with NI's other vsts. You can literally produce without touching the mouse or the keyboard. Load Massive inside it and you can tweak every parameter in the synth without a previous MIDI map. It also has a MIDI In so you can use a piano style controller to record your synth lines. Plus, you have 16 outs so you can mix with the plugins of your DAW. And there's the high quality sample library that comes with it.

edit: yes, I'm a maschine user. I also use it with traktor and/or ableton.

edit: Maschine's pads are more sensitive than those in the mpds, but they feel more "solid". You can buy MPC pads to put in your maschine in stores like mpcstuff.

[Maxxan]

Look, this is how it is. If you buy the Mikro you're not going to use Maschine software very much. It's a hassle and you'd end up sitting in your DAW doing all the arrangements there and then just using the maschine for sampling/chopping/playing stuff on the pads. If this is how you like it, buy the Mikro. It's what I do because I've always preferred programming stuff in than recording it live.

If you want to compose on the go, just playing stuff out and swapping between different sounds, not looking at the screen, record a few different takes, mess around, improv etc, you should buy the big one. I got the mikro because I got it really cheap (could get like 2,5 mikros at the price of the big one) and because the big one doesn't fit my workflow which is more or less completely in the box. I just wanted a simple drum pad for some more feeling, and also easy slicing etc. I could have gone with just a drum pad but I wanted to try the maschine software and also have the samples as it was cheap as well so I got the mikro. I don't regret it but if I wanted to use Maschine the way it's meant (as a whole workstation) then I can tell the mikro is probably a no-go.

And Snappy, man you're full of shit. wtf?

[Phase Down]

thanks guys im swaying towards the full one.. although any other opinions are welcome (about maschine pls)

It definitely interests me it being able to control massive out the box so nicely, almost like buying a synth so thats a definite plus

ps thanks on the mpc pads hint hircine, didnt know you could swap them this is nice

[Hircine]

thanks guys im swaying towards the full one.. although any other opinions are welcome (about maschine pls)

It definitely interests me it being able to control massive out the box so nicely, almost like buying a synth so thats a definite plus

ps thanks on the mpc pads hint hircine, didnt know you could swap them this is nice

You can swap the pads, leds, knobs and sensors.

[wub]

For the record, the PadKontrol pads are utter garbage. I bought one for the XY pad and regretted not getting the TriggerFinger (which was at the time £20 cheaper).

The light demo was quite cool in a dark room but that was about it.

[Crimsonghost]

Are you looking to get MK 2 Maschine? If so the pads on those are really nice compared to MK 1.

Honestly, if you're just going to use it at home in your studio for tracking out drums and samples then the mikro will do you good. If you plan on preforming with it then i would say go with the big guy.

I have the full size and personally i like to use my mouse when browsing or pulling up a instrument/plugin/samples. Everything else is going to be displayed on the computer anyway so that extra screen in the controller doesnt make that big of a difference if its just for home use.