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[esfandyar]

Was breakstep ever really a 'thing'? The early stuff was basically 2-step where the drums were breakbeats. Sounding a lot like slowed down like dnb with a bubbly bassline. Then the whole dubstep and grime thing started to happen and then it sounded more like a breakbased take on dubstep.

138 Trek sounds like it had more in common with Zed Bias and The Knowledge sounds like it has more affinity with let's say, Kito or something.

Seemed more like an umbrella term for an approach to garage derived music with a breakbeat. If a halfstep breakstep banger came out these days, I'm sure most people would call it dubstep.

breakstep was a thing just like chillstep is a thing nowadays (except not fucking wank)

not it's own genre, but a particular flavor of dubstep.

pretty much. it has distinction.. the triple kick is used a lot in the percussion..

[Genevieve]

It's been around since before dubstep doe and probably influenced dubstep before dubstep influenced it.

[Phigure]

It's been around since before dubstep doe and probably influenced dubstep before dubstep influenced it.

it definitely influenced it, but it depends on where you draw the line on when dubstep "began"

if you choose to say around 2002ish when it was still 2steppy but noticeably darker and bassier than 2step at the time then for the most part they evolved side by side
if you say 2004ish then yeah it existed before

[esfandyar]

It's been around since before dubstep doe and probably influenced dubstep before dubstep influenced it.

see this is where it gets kinda opinion based.. or did it ever come about to figure what was the first "dubstep" song written? thoughts? maybe i missed the thread on this subject.. anyway first tunes i heard were from mark one back in 2004 off of the grime lp.. and some of that music does not even sound like what is considered "dubstep", but imo more techno/uk garage influenced.. but its still around 140 bpm. so i dunno.

[esfandyar]

It's been around since before dubstep doe and probably influenced dubstep before dubstep influenced it.

it definitely influenced it, but it depends on where you draw the line on when dubstep "began"

if you choose to say around 2002ish when it was still 2steppy but noticeably darker and bassier than 2step at the time then for the most part they evolved side by side
if you say 2004ish then yeah it existed before

hah phigs beat me to it

[leyenda]

It's been around since before dubstep doe and probably influenced dubstep before dubstep influenced it.

it definitely influenced it, but it depends on where you draw the line on when dubstep "began"

if you choose to say around 2002ish when it was still 2steppy but noticeably darker and bassier than 2step at the time then for the most part they evolved side by side
if you say 2004ish then yeah it existed before

when fat larry skanked

[Genevieve]

Naw, 1999. 138 Trek must've come out in like 1999? 2000? When did 'I don't Smoke' by Deekline come out? Must've been around that time too. That was a big one.

And I think Skream considered Zinc a big influence of his.

I think dubstep started in 2001 with this though.

Took a fucking breakcore producer to show everyone how to do it. (know it's subjective, though. Mad blurry)

[Phigure]

Naw, 1999. 138 Trek must've come out in like 1999? 2000? When did 'I don't Smoke' by Deekline come out? Must've been around that time too. That was a big one.

And I think Skream considered Zinc a big influence of his.

I think dubstep started in 2001 with this though.

Took a fucking breakcore producer to show everyone how to do it.

well yeah there were a few exceptions like the aforementioned tunes, but the majority of what you'd call breakstep was a bit later than 1999

[leyenda]

I think Skream considered Zinc a big influence of his.

You can definitely hear a lot of 138 Trek and Artwork - Red in his and Benga's early dark garage stuff.

[SCope13]

any "breakstep" mixes out there? or could someone just list a few for me to check?

[Sexual_Chocolate]

any "breakstep" mixes out there? or could someone just list a few for me to check?

theres one in that mixes thread we've been hanging out in

[syrup]

Distinction - Spectrum Analysis mix (is it that one you mean nev?)
and Distance's Deleted scenes mix

[leyenda]

Distinction - Spectrum Analysis mix (is it that one you mean nev?)
and Distance's Deleted scenes mix

There's also an old Scuba one from when he still went by Paul Rose that is fiyah. Starts with a Leftfield track and ends with Boxcutter - Brood. Think you can get it and Spectrum Analysis in the 'just put on dubstep allstars 2' thread. And an old Distance Rinse fm show from 05 floating around as well. First time Vex'd - Killing Floor got played on radio I believe.

[Sexual_Chocolate]

Distinction - Spectrum Analysis mix (is it that one you mean nev?)
and Distance's Deleted scenes mix

no (and thats my bad) it wasnt even in that thread i dont think

its this one

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=4134

[leyenda]

^ Woops I got it wrong too, that was the mix I was talking about when I said starts with Leftfield and ends with Boxcutter, by Stealth not Scuba.

[Sexual_Chocolate]

badman mix too.... been blasting it on my iphone for awhile now.