Is depression a disease, and how should we treat it?

[Sexual_Chocolate]

If we all just ignore e-f hopefully he'll go away

foe list?

[Terpit]

If we all just ignore e-f hopefully he'll go away

foe list?

Ah, it actually makes all their posts invisible, on another forum it doesnt show the text but makes the box a different colour so it actually stands out more

[pkay]

it is a mental disorder and often times the result of a chemical imbalance. Those with chemical imbalances can often times be treated with medications and a lot of times therapy can help. It's just such a vague broad term that nothing is all encompassing

[nowaysj]

If we all just ignore e-f hopefully he'll go away

Haha, history has proven otherwise. Endless accounts and people apparently cannot resist the urge to scratch that itch.

[Terpit]

If we all just ignore e-f hopefully he'll go away

Haha, history has proven otherwise. Endless accounts and people apparently cannot resist the urge to scratch that itch.

Who was he before? heijopook?

[nowaysj]

Haha, who is he now is a better question.

[Phigure]

it's badman juice

[kidshuffle]

EF rustles everyone so hard lol

[E-F]

Sorry, but I played my part when this thread was actually a discussion, not Magma losing his shit (as I accurately predicted somebody would), E-F being incredibly blunt with SNH, and Jayladders, the man who, by his own admission, struggles to go outside in the day threatening to break his jaw over the internet.

The loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool was necessary, I've been creasing reading these past few pages.

I'm a 9 foot tall boxer/marine, problem?

I didn't threaten to break his jaw, I said that grouping people who are suffering through depression into being 'self sympathetic' or wtf ever is asking for a slap. There are some people here going theough some terrible things and this little fool is basically taking the piss. I was makong the point that theres only one way to deal with people like that. I have trouble with bright lights and anxiety, not defending myself. If you feel what this guy is saying about people on this forum is okay then that's fine dude

This is causing me a lot of stress so I'm just opting out.

[d-T-r]

Is discretion a disease and how should we treat it?

[Terpit]

Is discretion a disease and how should we treat it?

Cocaine

[Raggles]

Well...came here to be involved in a discussion about something all too familiar, then got to page 3.

[test_recordings]

it is a mental disorder and often times the result of a chemical imbalance. Those with chemical imbalances can often times be treated with medications and a lot of times therapy can help. It's just such a vague broad term that nothing is all encompassing

How would you define `help`? Being indefintitely prescribed medication to create a flat-lining personality?

[dreamizm]

Chemical imbalance def a big factor, but really good to notice your swings and how they match up with different factors. Nutrition, sleep and exercise are really good treatments (I think) because of the fact they are releasing certain chemicals into the brain.

I'm not sure I wld say I suffer or have suffered from depression the way some people describe it but I have def had lows waay lower than most people seem to get or talk about. Drugs have always been a factor here too, particularly mandy/pill comedowns and weed.

I think there is also a link between those who feel music more than others (ie. DSF users) and those that suffer with depression.

[Shock Rx]

I think depression is or can be in some ways all of the things you mentioned wub. Depression has many faces and many causes. Sorrow over loss or change is much different than clinical depression. Not in symptom but in the physical response of the body and mind. Therefore any treatment would need to be on a case by case basis. Done by a mental professional who has taken the time to understand the genisis of the patients conciousness. There are many helpful ways to treat and alieviate a persons depression. Drugs, be it prescription of black market are almost never the answer to depression. They can make the symptoms intensified, Leading to further depression and possible suicidal thoughts. The most universally helpful and safe treatments for depression are: keeping a journal of happy or positive thoughts and experiences. Adopting a pet. Creating art or finding a hobby that brings joy. I feel like a lot of people suffer because they cannot understand their own mind. The human mind is a powerful super computer and keeping it running effeciently and properly requires maintenance. All those suffering from depression would do well to look into neuroscience and the workings of the mind. Learning about how wonderful the mind is and how much potential we all have should inspire hope. Focus on the positive and try not to let the negative weigh you down. Think positive and you will feel positive. When you feel positve others pick up on that and they will feel positive. Creating an Exchange of positive thoughts and feelings. Happiness is contagious, unfortunatley the likewise is also true. I cannot overstate the importance of thinking positive and doing positive things that bring joy. Doing so is the best treatment for depression or simply feeling down.
My thoughts and opinions...Take them as you will.

[Terpit]

I think depression is or can be in some ways all of the things you mentioned wub. Depression has many faces and many causes. Sorrow over loss or change is much different than clinical depression. Not in symptom but in the physical response of the body and mind. Therefore any treatment would need to be on a case by case basis. Done by a mental professional who has taken the time to understand the genisis of the patients conciousness. There are many helpful ways to treat and alieviate a persons depression. Drugs, be it prescription of black market are almost never the answer to depression. They can make the symptoms intensified, Leading to further depression and possible suicidal thoughts. The most universally helpful and safe treatments for depression are: keeping a journal of happy or positive thoughts and experiences. Adopting a pet. Creating art or finding a hobby that brings joy. I feel like a lot of people suffer because they cannot understand their own mind. The human mind is a powerful super computer and keeping it running effeciently and properly requires maintenance. All those suffering from depression would do well to look into neuroscience and the workings of the mind. Learning about how wonderful the mind is and how much potential we all have should inspire hope. Focus on the positive and try not to let the negative weigh you down. Think positive and you will feel positive. When you feel positve others pick up on that and they will feel positive. Creating an Exchange of positive thoughts and feelings. Happiness is contagious, unfortunatley the likewise is also true. I cannot overstate the importance of thinking positive and doing positive things that bring joy. Doing so is the best treatment for depression or simply feeling down.
My thoughts and opinions...Take them as you will.

What if you're so depressed you believe you deserve it and don't want help?

[Genevieve]

I don't really buy the chemical imbalance thing much. SSRIs are as successful as a placebo and only help people with drawing them out of a really hard depression but mostly puts them in a milder one. They didn't kill my personality.

There's a genetic link between bipolar disorder, major depression and schizophrenia, though. With symptoms of each condition appearing in each other. Some depressed people can experience some symptoms related to mild mania. You're born with a certain sensitivity (different from person to person) to depression and it depends on your environment how prominent it'll become.

Not everything that looks like depression is depression and it's self-diagnosed a bit too much. But it's very real.

[Shock Rx]

I think depression is or can be in some ways all of the things you mentioned wub. Depression has many faces and many causes. Sorrow over loss or change is much different than clinical depression. Not in symptom but in the physical response of the body and mind. Therefore any treatment would need to be on a case by case basis. Done by a mental professional who has taken the time to understand the genisis of the patients conciousness. There are many helpful ways to treat and alieviate a persons depression. Drugs, be it prescription of black market are almost never the answer to depression. They can make the symptoms intensified, Leading to further depression and possible suicidal thoughts. The most universally helpful and safe treatments for depression are: keeping a journal of happy or positive thoughts and experiences. Adopting a pet. Creating art or finding a hobby that brings joy. I feel like a lot of people suffer because they cannot understand their own mind. The human mind is a powerful super computer and keeping it running effeciently and properly requires maintenance. All those suffering from depression would do well to look into neuroscience and the workings of the mind. Learning about how wonderful the mind is and how much potential we all have should inspire hope. Focus on the positive and try not to let the negative weigh you down. Think positive and you will feel positive. When you feel positve others pick up on that and they will feel positive. Creating an Exchange of positive thoughts and feelings. Happiness is contagious, unfortunatley the likewise is also true. I cannot overstate the importance of thinking positive and doing positive things that bring joy. Doing so is the best treatment for depression or simply feeling down.
My thoughts and opinions...Take them as you will.

What if you're so depressed you believe you deserve it and don't want help?

Well I am no mental health professional and shouldnt give anyone advice. However its all a scale if you feel like your going to hurt yourself, please seek help. Suicide doesn't just effect the person who commits it, same with self harm. Feeling like you deserve depression is tough and I can say that no one deserves to feel down all the time. Every one deserves some joy. Forgive yourself for whatever you think makes you deserve it, make peace with yourself. There is so much joy out there, maybe you just need to change your perspective to see it.
Think positive = feel positive! ...that's corny as hell...but I believe it to be true.

[test_recordings]

I don't really buy the chemical imbalance thing much. SSRIs are as successful as a placebo and only help people with drawing them out of a really hard depression but mostly puts them in a milder one. They didn't kill my personality.

There's a genetic link between bipolar disorder, major depression and schizophrenia, though. With symptoms of each condition appearing in each other. Some depressed people can experience some symptoms related to mild mania. You're born with a certain sensitivity (different from person to person) to depression and it depends on your environment how prominent it'll become.

Not everything that looks like depression is depression and it's self-diagnosed a bit too much. But it's very real.

Actually, if you read the evidence there is NO genetic link for schizophrenia and probably none for major depression and bipolar disorder. Check out `Explaining Madness` by richard P. Bentall or any of his other books and talks. `Genetic links to [insert _X_ here]` often have the significance massively over-played by the media... the amount of time it comes up is ridiculous

[Genevieve]

Actually, if you read the evidence, it's very conflicting. But based on personal experience with psychosis, mania and depression and experiences with relatives and other people who have it, it makes the most sense.

There's even some recent evidence that suggests that schizophrenia and related disorders are one end of a spectrum and autism spectrum type disorders are on the other end of that spectrum. And that allll mental illness falls between each disorders. And that we can get better at predicting both types of disorders even in the womb and possibly cure them.