The Official Growl Bass Thread

[Kit Fysto]

haha what the fuck is happening right now

[Swamo]

Also, what do you guys think of the growls on this unsigned tune of mine:

Soundcloud

It's mixed low so no one rips it, but I had to go through some serious automation to get that "uuuuuuuuuuugh" sound that we all want out of a really high quality yoi growl (such as the ones found in Knife Party tracks). First, simple waveform, and then a daft filter. I then automated the intensity on all three oscs (all bend +/-) with the filter cutoff. Some EQing here, a WOW filter to accentuate the vowel, and I hit a C-1 note to give it more of a lo-fi growly quality. Big ups.

[mthrfnk]

[sssShawnnnn]

Also, what do you guys think of the growls on this unsigned tune of mine:

Soundcloud

It's mixed low so no one rips it, but I had to go through some serious automation to get that "uuuuuuuuuuugh" sound that we all want out of a really high quality yoi growl (such as the ones found in Knife Party tracks). First, simple waveform, and then a daft filter. I then automated the intensity on all three oscs (all bend +/-) with the filter cutoff. Some EQing here, a WOW filter to accentuate the vowel, and I hit a C-1 note to give it more of a lo-fi growly quality. Big ups.

bro, dat sounds like poop

[unohoo09]

Woot first post here! This is a track I wrote in FL Studio (using Sytrus and FM8):

Soundcloud

Once you know what you're doing, the growls get SUPER easy to make and change. The project files are on the SC page to download if you want to extract the growls (don't care if you use them or whatever, I'm just trying to help).

[mromgwtf]

Woot first post here! This is a track I wrote in FL Studio (using Sytrus and FM8):

Soundcloud

Once you know what you're doing, the growls get SUPER easy to make and change. The project files are on the SC page to download if you want to extract the growls (don't care if you use them or whatever, I'm just trying to help).

[dotcurrency]

(I'm just trying to help).

That's the holiday spirit! Thanks definitely will have a look.
Also, how do you decide when to put those few note melody breaks? Do you just place them randomly till they sound good or what?



Not sure if these are important or not but:

[mthrfnk]

(I'm just trying to help).

That's the holiday spirit! Thanks definitely will have a look.
Also, how do you decide when to put those few note melody breaks? Do you just place them randomly till they sound good or what?



Not sure if these are important or not but:

Looks like grand piano samples?

I've got some fairly nice (imo heh) growls in my new WIP:
Soundcloud
Mix sucks atm so don't judge them on that haha... as always if you want info just ask

[mromgwtf]

(I'm just trying to help).

That's the holiday spirit! Thanks definitely will have a look.
Also, how do you decide when to put those few note melody breaks? Do you just place them randomly till they sound good or what?



Not sure if these are important or not but:

Looks like grand piano samples?

I've got some fairly nice (imo heh) growls in my new WIP:
Soundcloud
Mix sucks atm so don't judge them on that haha... as always if you want info just ask

Well done
How did you make it? I bet it was massive.

[dotcurrency]

I've got some fairly nice (imo heh) growls in my new WIP:
Soundcloud
Mix sucks atm so don't judge them on that haha... as always if you want info just ask

Really nice wip, probably my favorite of all your work! I actually have a few questions haha:
1. How'd you get the guitars? Synth or sampled?
2. The little tom fill at 1.05, sequenced or sampled?
3. How'd you get the idea for this tune?

[mthrfnk]

Well done
How did you make it? I bet it was massive.

One is Massive
The other two are z3ta and sytrus.

All three are processed in a similar way:
>EQ to cut the shit, boost bass and high end
>Flanger ~40% wet
>WOW filter on automation, all three use different vowel pairs
>BR filter courtesy of BiFilter2 (best freebie ever from Computer Music), which are sweeping opposite to the vowel automation
>Stacked pair of distortions, ~5% each

Also each channel is sent to another where I cut the lows/mids then stereo spread and overdrive the high end.

Kind of the same thing I've been doing for a while now, starting to refine various things - hopefully they'll sound less muddy if I mixdown properly.

1. How'd you get the guitars? Synth or sampled?
2. The little tom fill at 1.05, sequenced or sampled?
3. How'd you get the idea for this tune?

1. Guitars are Kontakt samples. The phasey "rock" guitar took me ages to get right - took a lot of FX to make it sound how I wanted (was going for like a skanked reggae/dub kind of thing). The trumpety horns are also a Kontakt library, there's so many free ones out there (made a topic a while ago with lots) - it's my new favourite thing to do in producing, using real samples really does make things a lot better than trying to make tracks solely from synths.
2. Based on some fill samples from Vengeace Essential Club Sounds 3 iirc, this new Dodge and Fuski video explains how to do drum fills in many ways:

It's very similar to the fill I did in this track for the drop:
Soundcloud
3. A few different areas of ideas: Firstly it was a bit of an evolution/remake of the track above. Secondly there's the obvious influence of Knife Party's "Bonfire". Thirdly I took some ideas from a loop pack (the main riff/melody). Finally I've been looking for decent reggae/dub vocal samples for a while (I tried to incorporate some in the SC track above on the breakdown) and I watched the Ali G show a couple of days ago and one of the backing tracks in the show had the vocals you hear on the intro to my new WIP (I shazamed the track, grabbed the intro off youtube and chopped up the vocals) - true story hah. To go with those I wanted to do like a chilled intro before the main guitar kicks in, so just grabbed the waves and seagulls samples off freesound (actually got the waves from just searching "Jamaica" lol). Erm can't reall explain much more... just piecing things together and add frills/pads/fx to try and get the chilled intro to blend with the electro main.

Hope that helps

[dotcurrency]

Well done
How did you make it? I bet it was massive.

One is Massive
The other two are z3ta and sytrus.

All three are processed in a similar way:
>EQ to cut the shit, boost bass and high end
>Flanger ~40% wet
>WOW filter on automation, all three use different vowel pairs
>BR filter courtesy of BiFilter2 (best freebie ever from Computer Music), which are sweeping opposite to the vowel automation
>Stacked pair of distortions, ~5% each

Also each channel is sent to another where I cut the lows/mids then stereo spread and overdrive the high end.

Kind of the same thing I've been doing for a while now, starting to refine various things - hopefully they'll sound less muddy if I mixdown properly.

1. How'd you get the guitars? Synth or sampled?
2. The little tom fill at 1.05, sequenced or sampled?
3. How'd you get the idea for this tune?

1. Guitars are Kontakt samples. The phasey "rock" guitar took me ages to get right - took a lot of FX to make it sound how I wanted (was going for like a skanked reggae/dub kind of thing). The trumpety horns are also a Kontakt library, there's so many free ones out there (made a topic a while ago with lots) - it's my new favourite thing to do in producing, using real samples really does make things a lot better than trying to make tracks solely from synths.
2. Based on some fill samples from Vengeace Essential Club Sounds 3 iirc, this new Dodge and Fuski video explains how to do drum fills in many ways:

It's very similar to the fill I did in this track for the drop:
Soundcloud
3. A few different areas of ideas: Firstly it was a bit of an evolution/remake of the track above. Secondly there's the obvious influence of Knife Party's "Bonfire". Thirdly I took some ideas from a loop pack (the main riff/melody). Finally I've been looking for decent reggae/dub vocal samples for a while (I tried to incorporate some in the SC track above on the breakdown) and I watched the Ali G show a couple of days ago and one of the backing tracks in the show had the vocals you hear on the intro to my new WIP (I shazamed the track, grabbed the intro off youtube and chopped up the vocals) - true story hah. To go with those I wanted to do like a chilled intro before the main guitar kicks in, so just grabbed the waves and seagulls samples off freesound (actually got the waves from just searching "Jamaica" lol). Erm can't reall explain much more... just piecing things together and add frills/pads/fx to try and get the chilled intro to blend with the electro main.

Hope that helps

You talk about bifilter so much! Do you know if I purchase computer music october issue from my iPad i'll get the plugin?

[mthrfnk]

It's just easy to use and sounds okay, and it was free heh. I think from that issue (#182) onwards people who buy the online version can get the software through the "vault", just check the website.

[dotcurrency]

It's just easy to use and sounds okay, and it was free heh. I think from that issue (#182) onwards people who buy the online version can get the software through the "vault", just check the website.

So....a $40 plugin free with a $5 issue?

[mthrfnk]

Yep

[dotcurrency]

^Thanks man, I'll buy it when I get on my iPad (wherever that POS is.)


How do these growls sound? Popped together a quick project with them. Most likely will get scrapped though, not really digging them :/
Soundcloud

[somepony]

^Thanks man, I'll buy it when I get on my iPad (wherever that POS is.)


How do these growls sound? Popped together a quick project with them. Most likely will get scrapped though, not really digging them :/
Soundcloud

Dude, have you heard about Shy Kidx? You sound a lot like their bass, it's really good!! uhmm... how did you do it?

[mromgwtf]

Well done
How did you make it? I bet it was massive.

One is Massive
The other two are z3ta and sytrus.

All three are processed in a similar way:
>EQ to cut the shit, boost bass and high end
>Flanger ~40% wet
>WOW filter on automation, all three use different vowel pairs
>BR filter courtesy of BiFilter2 (best freebie ever from Computer Music), which are sweeping opposite to the vowel automation
>Stacked pair of distortions, ~5% each

Also each channel is sent to another where I cut the lows/mids then stereo spread and overdrive the high end.

Kind of the same thing I've been doing for a while now, starting to refine various things - hopefully they'll sound less muddy if I mixdown properly.

1. How'd you get the guitars? Synth or sampled?
2. The little tom fill at 1.05, sequenced or sampled?
3. How'd you get the idea for this tune?

1. Guitars are Kontakt samples. The phasey "rock" guitar took me ages to get right - took a lot of FX to make it sound how I wanted (was going for like a skanked reggae/dub kind of thing). The trumpety horns are also a Kontakt library, there's so many free ones out there (made a topic a while ago with lots) - it's my new favourite thing to do in producing, using real samples really does make things a lot better than trying to make tracks solely from synths.
2. Based on some fill samples from Vengeace Essential Club Sounds 3 iirc, this new Dodge and Fuski video explains how to do drum fills in many ways:

It's very similar to the fill I did in this track for the drop:
Soundcloud
3. A few different areas of ideas: Firstly it was a bit of an evolution/remake of the track above. Secondly there's the obvious influence of Knife Party's "Bonfire". Thirdly I took some ideas from a loop pack (the main riff/melody). Finally I've been looking for decent reggae/dub vocal samples for a while (I tried to incorporate some in the SC track above on the breakdown) and I watched the Ali G show a couple of days ago and one of the backing tracks in the show had the vocals you hear on the intro to my new WIP (I shazamed the track, grabbed the intro off youtube and chopped up the vocals) - true story hah. To go with those I wanted to do like a chilled intro before the main guitar kicks in, so just grabbed the waves and seagulls samples off freesound (actually got the waves from just searching "Jamaica" lol). Erm can't reall explain much more... just piecing things together and add frills/pads/fx to try and get the chilled intro to blend with the electro main.

Hope that helps

What are your WOW filter settings? When I use it, it always has its obvious modern talkish sound.

[mthrfnk]

What are your WOW filter settings? When I use it, it always has its obvious modern talkish sound.

Common vowel setups I use:
ü > a
ä > u
ä > o
(and vice versa)

I rarely use o, e and i to lead the vowels. If you're using o > i or a > i you're often gonna get that modern talking vibe.

Band Reject Filter.
Overdrive around 30%.
Resonance at least 90%+.
All modulators are ignored.
Mix is anything from 20% to 50% wet, I try to keep it as low as I can because I generally follow WOW with a 2nd BR or Comb filter sweep courtesy of BiFilter 2.
Master at default.

Start the cutoff at zero on your leading vowel and automate to taste within your DAW.

[IamDroid]

"no screen shots.. thats fucking stupid lol. But i'll tell you the main stuff is simple fm modulation. I think on this one i did on carrier modulated by two operators. Then a vocoder. A HP filter. And amp distortion units. Also used a lotta multiband dynamic units to suck out the frequencies i did or didnot want. and finally cutting out 100hz below and layering it with a sub..That part is really important"

Are you fucking kind me. No screens and this bullshit ass explanation. Sooo specific man sooo specific. Gtfo bro. Whining about people not responding to your posts, and then you post this bullshit wow. What a scrub. Don't post WIP and Growls if your not going to fully explain your process. Might as well jus start a thread asking people if these growls sound good, fucking tool.