czech producers! pressing question

jtransition · Post by **jtransition** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:29 pm

the mix isn't coloured at all, flat, deep and very very loud.

Please define coloured
Are you confusing loudness with vinyl distortion?
Jason

tha_illsta · Post by **tha_illsta** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:11 pm

ThinKing wrote: sometimes I feel the mix has been tweaked a bit too much for me.

again, matter of preference.

DID you attend the cut?

otherwise, tough. that's what happens.

Actually I have my own preferences as well dependant on track, money no object. ( no names top secret )

but Jase is pretty good with d-step in my experience

also I have some heathman dubs in my yard which are doo-doo

NO OFFENCE ANYWAYS MATE just shootin tha breeze wit ya

tha_illsta · Post by **tha_illsta** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:13 pm

Jtransition wrote:

big up mate. Hope you like all the promo work i'm doing for ya here..

HAHAHA

-benny

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:28 pm

Jtransition wrote:
the mix isn't coloured at all, flat, deep and very very loud.
Please define coloured
Are you confusing loudness with vinyl distortion?
Jason

don't get me wrong, I'm no professional engineer, it's just that to my ear sometimes a hear a transition cut that sounds a bit like it's had some broad additive EQ in the mids - I've A/Bed the same tune that I've had cut elsewhere and it's just sounded different. Bollocks I'm explaining myself poorly.

To quote yourself J, you like "the sub to hit you in the chest, and the snare to slap you round the face" or something like that - that's just not my personal taste.

horses for courses tho, shitloads of peeps get their plates/lacquers cut @ Transition which speaks for itself. Just havin a little chat about the choices out there I guess....

and yes Benny, good to chat some shit on a Friday. That and the cricket have been gettin me thru the day.

tha_illsta · Post by **tha_illsta** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:32 pm

ThinKing wrote: That and the cricket have been gettin me thru the day.

gwan the cricket gang

jtransition · Post by **jtransition** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:45 pm

ThinKing wrote:
Jtransition wrote:
the mix isn't coloured at all, flat, deep and very very loud.
Please define coloured
Are you confusing loudness with vinyl distortion?
Jason
don't get me wrong, I'm no professional engineer, it's just that to my ear sometimes a hear a transition cut that sounds a bit like it's had some broad additive EQ in the mids - I've A/Bed the same tune that I've had cut elsewhere and it's just sounded different. Bollocks I'm explaining myself poorly.

To quote yourself J, you like "the sub to hit you in the chest, and the snare to slap you round the face" or something like that - that's just not my personal taste.

horses for courses tho, shitloads of peeps get their plates/lacquers cut @ Transition which speaks for itself. Just havin a little chat about the choices out there I guess....

and yes Benny, good to chat some shit on a Friday. That and the cricket have been gettin me thru the day.

I only asked the questions because that was a weird thing to say.
Unless you have compared the same tracks (on the same size dub) one cut at Heathmans and the other cut at Transition your point has no foundation. Of coarse you are entitled to your own opinion but unless you can prove your points with an accurate test then it is foolish to talk about so and so being better than so and so because of more or less colour.
I asked you what you meant by colour but you cannot explain clearly what colour is.
What you seem to be missing is that mastering and dub cutting are two different things also that as a mastering engineer i am here to translate what the paying customer wants irrespective of my preferences,I will give advice but he who pays says how much bass mid top or colour they want.

Benny I will drop the cheque round later

tha_illsta · Post by **tha_illsta** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:51 pm

Jtransition wrote: I only asked the questions because that was a weird thing to say.
Unless you have compared the same tracks (on the same size dub) one cut at Heathmans and the other cut at Transition your point has no foundation. Of coarse you are entitled to your own opinion but unless you can prove your points with an accurate test then it is foolish to talk about so and so being better than so and so because of more or less colour.
I asked you what you meant by colour but you cannot explain clearly what colour is.
What you seem to be missing is that mastering and dub cutting are two different things also that as a mastering engineer i am here to translate what the paying customer wants irrespective of my preferences,I will give advice but he who pays says how much bass mid top or colour they want.

Benny I will drop the cheque round later

LOL

You tell 'em bronco.

Not like heathman's need any MORE money anyway.

For the record (geddit) no-one is better or worse ( no arguments please )

just depends on tha track. an' who cuts it on the day.

the ones he's heard prolly cut by chefal. ( just joking Chef mate )

Oh... and Jason mate, cash please, you know how I roll.

tha_illsta · Post by **tha_illsta** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:03 pm

Czech mates, please carry on.

I hope we've all been of some help as to the ins and outs of mastering.

To recap..

it's a good idea to have your laquers cut here, can't recommend anyone really due to political pressure..

psst. TRANSITION

Jason, would you be so kind as to furbish these czech fellows with your business telephone number please, sir.

Thankyou.

jtransition · Post by **jtransition** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:37 pm

LOL LOL

I just like to get things straight because there is enough misinformation floating around as it is.
Anyway here is our number and web details

+44 (0)208 699 7888
www.transition-studios.com
www.myspace.com/transitionmastering

Jason

tha_illsta · Post by **tha_illsta** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:46 pm

Jtransition wrote:there is enough misinformation floating around as it is.

True dat,

Especially on DSF mate.

Seriously, v. sensible response, there's a lot of crap bandied about concering this issue in general.

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:47 pm

if you're in the UK already, i'd get the records pressed in the UK! even if you save £30 or so by doing it in eastern europe i really don't think it's worth it. more peace of mind doing it in the UK, as well as environmental consequences of shipping hundreds of vinyls hundreds of miles

support the UK pressing plants!

tha_illsta · Post by **tha_illsta** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:07 pm

Agreed, GZ get enough work from the septics already ever since MCA shut down.

Support UK vinyl pressing

best in the world, bar none....

*cowers waiting for onslaught to begin*

jalfrezi · Post by **jalfrezi** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:58 am

wow!!! what a kerfuffle...

i've investigated the czech possibility and am still undecided about which way to go.

i agree that you should support your nation's industries but when on a very tight budget i think these things need to be done and then in the future when money is a bit less of an issue start using places closer to home.

thanks for the input and interesting reading so far¬

tha_illsta · Post by **tha_illsta** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:27 pm

Well, if you ask me...

I don't think you really need to use UK pressing plants at all, your own should be fine..

However, I would definitely recommend that you carry out the mastering in the UK, because, with mastering it's critical that you use the best person/place to suit the sound of the productions you are concerned with. After all, it's YOUR material, and you want the best possible outcome with the end product...

It is useful to note, on this subject, that in hip-hop for example, many UK outfits prefer to send their tracks to the US for vinyl mastering, where they get the sound favourable for that music. I have also heard of US house labels sending their tracks to UK facilities for the same reason, and also similarly, some labels prefer the pressing tecniques of one place or other. Again in hip-hop for example the DJ's prefer the skinny lightweight vinyl for scratching and sometimes manufacture in the US to get that US import vinyl feel; whereas in other music areas the UK pressings are preferred for reasons of higher sound quality or fatter vinyl or whatever.

I know you can get different weights of vinyl pressed anywhere, but this is not the whole issue, as can be seen by this practice.

Hope this helps you and does not add to the confusion!!!!

jalfrezi · Post by **jalfrezi** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:39 pm

right i'm actually in SUTTON in england!!! lol

i'm just looking at different places to find out where the best place to get stuff pressed is. i definitely willl get the tunes mastered in england but was just wondering if there is any advantage in terms of quality (kvalitni) of getting things done in england as opposed to czechland. the czech side does seem that you can get a better product for less but would like to know what you lot reckon!!!

slivolvice rules!!!

czech producers! pressing question

Who is online