-Native Instruments- Massive Q&A

[sunny_b_uk]

the thing is facebook and youtube is full of this crap, yesterday i had someone tell me that ableton is more professional at splitting frequencies and side-chaining than fl studio (wtf) and the way most local producers iv met only know about waves & native instruments and never heard of any free plugins is annoying.. even at colleges iv seen tutors give students cracked audio software on CDs, it seems like normal behavior to them wherever i go.
im poor as fuck and my family are about to lose our own house yet i honestly buy the software i need when im able to regardless of me not making a penny at this.
all im saying is if i was able to pay for massive by saving up for a few months then why can't someone else who has a better financial background do this

[mromgwtf]

And this is why I love dsf. A guy makes a thread about massive patches, and we are talking about alpacas

[thor_beatz]

Cheers for bumping this thread guys!

[Mamm0th]

So what im trying to accomplish is to set the lfo ratio's to certian buttons on my faderport. If i cant do that can i possibly set the lf0 knob to the pan knob on my fader port! I really really would like to get this done. Im on FL studio 9 thanks!

[xhayatox]

I've been producing for roughly 3 years, and Massive is perhaps the most difficult and intricate VST I have ever seen. There are so many various knobs and parameters, and It just seems so overwhelming. I basically use presets all the time. I've never really attempted to learn how to use Massive technically. It just seems so daunting. Is there an actual way to learn how it works, and what each individual knob does, etc? Maybe, to others, Massive isn't as intimidating. But yeah, personally I just think it's such an overwhelming VST and there is so much to do in it, but I don't even know where to begin. Yeah, I've watched tutorials online, but most of the time, the people just simply sit there and tell you to turn "this knob" or "that knob". I'm not interested in that. I am interested in knowing what the knobs are actually designed to do and how they function. Any tips, suggestions? Thanks.

[MKRUGGER]

Massive is the easiest synth out there (imo) ..

The knobs in every synth basically do the same thing, give or take a few of them.

I'd say just mess around with the synth, creating different patches until you understand what does what.

Some people will tell you to reverse engineer some of the presets in Massive.. That never helped me, but you could go for it.

Just use whatever synth you like, and learn it fully.. And then try the next one.. But if you really want to understand Massive, keep at it.

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

think about it as lego you always start with the same shit but if you plug one here and one there voila a dinosaur or cat or whatever

[Comfi]

I would class massive as one of the easiest synths to use too. What other synths have you used before?

[xhayatox]

I would class massive as one of the easiest synths to use too. What other synths have you used before?

I have used Nexus, Z3ta, Sylenth, and I barely even understand what those do. I've been using presets for every single VST I've used. I know, I suck.

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

hm take the preset you liek and look at what happens there. why it does sound how it sounds why is the green 5 on the wavetable, why the blue 2 on the filter . check where the blue 2 is open it. check what the envelope is all about. literally go backwards all the way

[xhayatox]

hm take the preset you liek and look at what happens there. why it does sound how it sounds why is the green 5 on the wavetable, why the blue 2 on the filter . check where the blue 2 is open it. check what the envelope is all about. literally go backwards all the way

I try man. But then I run into words like "LFO", "Envelope", "Oscillator" ,and every single one of these damn terms I don't understand.

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[mthrfnk]

How about you read the fucking manual?

How do you think other people learn how to use synths, seriously? The fact you've "been producing for 3 years" and are still using presets for everything is laughable. What the hell have you been learning/trying to do?! I'm probably coming off as a bit of a dick right now, but seriously I've been producing on/off for 1.5 years and would consider that I've learned the ins and outs of multiple Synths and VSTs over that time not to mention my DAW, FL Studio. Mainly just by sitting down and toying with things, if I don't undertand something I either look it up in the manual/website/a forum/youtube etc or alternatively I deconstruct a preset that utilises the function I'm cofused by.

In my opinion Massive is one of the easiest synths to use, the routing is quite sequential through the interface (as in the synth itself is practically laid out in the order you should create a sound; wavetables > filters > fx > post fx/filters bam.) and linking paramaters is very easy through the nice drag and drop mechanism, even compared to something like z3ta which is also has quite an easy interface... Massive seems like childsplay in comparison.

Also fyi Nexus is a rompler, not a synth, doesn't get any easier than that.

Edit: As I was writing this apparently you wrote your post above, I'm now inclined to think this is just a troll considering your post count, ah well... wouldn't surprise me if this was a legit thread.

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

haha man i cant tell if you are trolling. this site made me a dif person but if not try to find out everything about those terms that concern you.

lfo basically makes the wobbles
oscillator the sounds
envelope is like the sound how it sounds. does it start right away, or like smooth, long tail, how it sounds when you keep your finger on the note and stuff but you can use those envelope for filter,lfo,wavetable etc

[VirtualMark]

Are you trolling? You've been producing for three years, and don't know what an oscillator is? What sort of producing have you been doing?

[OllieScott]

dont see how people could work like this. if you wanna express yourself creatively, I think you really need to know your tools

LFO, Oscillator, Envelopes are all pretty basic synth parameters. There plenty of info online on all this or go buy some books, even read the manual.

[xhayatox]

Are you trolling? You've been producing for three years, and don't know what an oscillator is? What sort of producing have you been doing?

Not sure why I even have to explain this, but the reason why I'm not familiar with most musical technical terms is because, I spent the first 2 years producing learning how to arrange and and structure tracks, learning how to create good mixdowns, experimenting with different genre's, and what not. I never took the time to learn the technical things about music. That's why I'm not familiar with most terminology and what not. I never focused on that aspect of music before. It started off as merely a hobby, but now that I'm taking it more seriously I have started to try and understand the technical side of it more. Like I said, I spent the first three years just generally messing around and making tunes just for the hell of it. I never took it seriously enough to want to learn important technical things. I don't care if my answer justifies it or not, I'm just telling the truth here. No need to accuse me of trying to "troll". I seriously have better and more desirable things to do with my time then sit on a forum trying to make up stupid stories to solicit angry responses from folk I don't know.

[mthrfnk]

How about you read the fucking manual?

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

Not sure why I even have to explain this, but the reason why I'm not familiar with most musical technical terms is because, I spent the first 2 years producing learning how to arrange and and structure tracks, learning how to create good mixdowns, experimenting with different genre's, and what not. I never took the time to learn the technical things about music. That's why I'm not familiar with most terminology and what not. I never focused on that aspect of music before. It started off as merely a hobby, but now that I'm taking it more seriously I have started to try and understand the technical side of it more. Like I said, I spent the first three years just generally messing around and making tunes just for the hell of it. I never took it seriously enough to want to learn important technical things.

this is the most sane thing i heard in a while. i mean you should ask yourself , do you want to make digital music or just music? imo you dont need all this shit anyways to make good music.

[bRRRz]

i found massive really intuitive. if you want to know what all knobs do: read the manual (as others have already said). if you want to find good sounds: experiment.

[VirtualMark]

Not sure why I even have to explain this, but the reason why I'm not familiar with most musical technical terms is because, I spent the first 2 years producing learning how to arrange and and structure tracks, learning how to create good mixdowns, experimenting with different genre's, and what not. I never took the time to learn the technical things about music. That's why I'm not familiar with most terminology and what not. I never focused on that aspect of music before. It started off as merely a hobby, but now that I'm taking it more seriously I have started to try and understand the technical side of it more. Like I said, I spent the first three years just generally messing around and making tunes just for the hell of it. I never took it seriously enough to want to learn important technical things. I don't care if my answer justifies it or not, I'm just telling the truth here. No need to accuse me of trying to "troll". I seriously have better and more desirable things to do with my time then sit on a forum trying to make up stupid stories to solicit angry responses from folk I don't know.

Fair enough. The book that gets recommended a lot is "how to make a noise" - it should help you learn synth basics. If you've been using synths, you should pick it up fairly quickly.

Also subscribe to things like Point Blank and Dubspot on Youtube. They have constant free tutorials from their courses, and go into detail about what they're doing.